Steve W Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 Anyone running slightly 'oversize' tyres on Std' UK wheels [ie. the STOCK 17x8, 17x9.5] I'd like to try ~ 265/35-17 or 275/35-17 on backs (what about 265/40, 275/40 ? ?) (and possibly 245/40-17 or 255/40-17 on front) It's the backs I want a bit more rubber on ! ! Since Pod' I'm getting a bit more confidence at giving it full wack at lower speeds but even on fairly dry roads it's stepping sideways IN A STRAIGHT LINE when 2nd Turbo cuts in 1st or 2nd (it's OK in 3rd/4th 'cos I'm already going fast enough and it can grip fine by then). It's NOT the tyres - S02's - I'm pretty sure they're fairly good !? would another 20mm help....or not do you think ? (I also want 'em a bit wider to stop kerbin'......my bad parking !) (may NOT put wider fronts, 'cos don't want heavier steering OR to put strain on rack etc ??) ANYONE running, ANYONE know ? ? (mate at tyre place - who just did me a free puncture and 2 free front balances ! ! ! - says should 'go on' OK but didn't know about 'suitablity'/handling) FatS. (and YES, more tyre may take MY WEIGHT better before you say anything..... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispazzi Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 I've got 18" wheels with 275's on the rear and mine steps out in the dry in a straight line in 2nd gear too. p.s. I think the rear rim is 10" or 10.5" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted February 8, 2003 Author Share Posted February 8, 2003 What about if I just EAT MORE ? ? OR, always carry a passenger ? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 Steve, Always take a passenger windbag with you...they'll warn you if you drive beyond the limit of the tyres....usually a high pitch squeal is emmitted, followed by expleatives and general comments about scaring people to death etc etc... As for the tyre thing if you can get 265's on them comfortably I would personally go for that. At this time of year even with 335 rubber you'd have to be careful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted February 8, 2003 Author Share Posted February 8, 2003 OH !..... CAREFUL.....! ! ! THAT'S what I was forgetting to do........... Seriously, it's a bit pissy, I was following a mate who's got an Escort V with a 2.0 ZETEC transplanted/H'L'cams/Injection sorted /zorst/decat/etc... He booted it LARGE in front, so I proceeded to TRY likewise..... It's either a case of feeding it in slowly = LOSER, OR, 2nd turbo = have to back off due to 'bottom-loosness' = LOSER I KNOW my Soop's faster, but I can't catch the bugger at low speeds ! ! [different scenario once on open road but in Dagenham ? ? ? ?] It seems I have all the potential under the bonnet, but............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 To "boot it" with impunity(sp?) in an Auto like yours, your best bet is RLTC. 8% slip. nail your foot to the floor and let the electronics take care of it. Auto's are very tricky as they kick down so you have a lower gear and tonnes of boost. It's not IMO a cop out to use RLTC to keep a lid on things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted February 8, 2003 Author Share Posted February 8, 2003 Yes, BUT, as I understand it, WHEN it spins-up the RLTC cuts the fuel to 1 injector (or more) for a split second (? or what?). I'd rather not CUT the power, but, put that power DOWN where it should be (if AT ALL possible !). Matt had his RLTC on at Pod and everytime he went down the strip, all you could hear was the RLTC cutting the power, all the length of the strip ! (sounded rather like an Audi Quattro or a Scooby exhaust ! !). Mine was spinning/gripping/spinning/gripping etc BUT I got faster times ? ? ? Either mine was more powerful (VERY doubtful!**), OR, his RLTC was 'cutting' his power 'too' much ? ? He said he tried all different settings of the RLTC (?) I don't know if he actually tried it OFF or not (must ask later). I KNOW the RLTC is the SAFER option but I want to know if it's possible to get enough grip 'instead'. [listen to ME ! ! I'm the one who spun it COMPLETELY only a couple of months ago ! ! ! - must be a complete LOONY, HUH ?] Fat-LOONY-S. [** 2 x 12" subs in HEAVY box / spare / ME! / coats,helmet,food, drink etc etc....NOT weight-pared if you know what I mean ? just decatted/mongoose - standard-ish] ps. ONLY interested - NOT trying to start an Anti-RLTC faction or anything ! ! (can't afford it anyhow at the moment) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 Steve, I would say that the fact I couldn't stop wheelspinning was more down to my lack of driving skills more that RLTC cutting the power. - I just couldn't bring myself to back off the throttle! I've played around with couple of non-RLTC equipped Supra's in dodgy weather conditions and without any shadow of doubt, I had a noticable edge. When I went to Elvington, the RLTC only cut in in 1st and a second or so in 2nd - And it was pi$$ing down that day! Santa Pod was exceptional. I've never driven on anything so slippery at that speed. I did turn the TC off once... Only once 'cause it scared the crap out of me! I was counter-steering ALL the way up the strip. It really felt like I was on an ice rink! - Perhaps my F1's need replacing, they're about halfway down now. I'm more than happy to meet up with you and give you a demo - You can have a drive and see how you get on with it. As for tyres, this time of year, with greasy cold roads, you'd be lucky to get much in the way of grip at the best of times. I do believe that the more rubber on the road, the better. I'm running 275/35/18 on the rear and 245/40/18 on the front. I'd think that if you are putting bigger rears on, you want to increase the fronts by the same amount. - I've heard it can upset the balance, (Read as, I have no Idea, but that's what I've picked up from reading previous posts ) Did that make sense edited to add, with RLTC off, that was my slowest time. 15.946 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted February 8, 2003 Author Share Posted February 8, 2003 Cheers Matt, I'm dead keen to try some ~275/35's (or so)..... partly 'cos they'll make it look even MORE chunky at the rear (I LUV a chunky REAR !) I'd have to save the ones I've got 'cos there's loads of tread left. (MORE stuff to find space for !) You don't think bigger front's 'll put any increased strain on Power Steering at all ? ? I'm all for bigger fronts, as I said - 'cos of my 'kerbin' skills:p I'm not too fussed about "increased consumption due to worse rolling resistance" 'cos it's so juicy in the first place....who cares ? ......just been to Kumho's site. They now list a new tyre...KU15 ? looks more 'trendy' pattern, don't know what it's like, the usual places (Tyres Online / MyTyres) don't list 'em yet. Might take you up on the "test-drive" some time.......... another Matts' Place Meet ??????? Only problem is, best time to do it is in pissy rain etc. and even I don't trust ME in the wet Might have to find LARGE, OPEN area. [at Pod I think the old adrenalin took over.... looking back I was holdin' it on the 'edge' of slippin' MOST of the way up the strip ! I think it was only 'playing' with Domonic that made me 'STUPID'er than normal.......what WAS I THINKING ! ! ! ? ? ?] ps. MY slowest time was when I left the TRAC on....... just got enough grip to really welly-it and BBLLUURRRRRRR I was left sitting in front of all 'dem people looking like I was reading a map or sumtin' ! ! It was only for ~split second, but felt like ~10 seconds..... REALLY EMBARRASSING:moo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Pilot Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 Originally posted by Steve W I think it was only 'playing' with Domonic that made me 'STUPID'er than normal.......what WAS I THINKING ! ! ! ? ? ? ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Cheeky' boy!... hey I am ready to play again when you are son........ -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- ps. MY slowest time was when I left the TRAC on....... just got enough grip to really welly-it and BBLLUURRRRRRR I was left sitting in front of all 'dem people looking like I was reading a map or sumtin' ! ! It was only for ~split second, but felt like ~10 seconds..... REALLY EMBARRASSING:moo: Specially when you were eating my dust! AGAIN! :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted February 8, 2003 Author Share Posted February 8, 2003 How's your TRACTOR tyres comin' along, HUH ? ? Perhaps a couple of used Concorde tyres ? THEY should be pretty slick ! ! and well run-in ! ! (might have to flare the rear arches for THEM though ?) seriously, I've had a slow (and some days, NO) puncture for ~week. Went to the tyre outlet who supplies the tyres for our MOTs (only 1/2 tyres every few days !) He took Front/Right off - 2" 'tack' right in tread (luckily), must have sat different 'ways' different days ! Did a 'mushroom'&patch jobbie on it and then balanced both fronts. GOT IT ALL FREE ! ! ('spose I owe HIM one though:mad: ) FatS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Pilot Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 At Pod you did notice that tyre in question has a lower pressure compared to the others... When are you thinking about changing your boots? As I will be doing the same as you soon, I will deffo be going slightly bigger, say 265/275 rear on the stock rims. But also looking into a set for strip running(just rears). What are you up to tomorrow? I am working tonight, hoping to be back home sometime during middle of night if all/flight goes to plan, and may be bored late evening tomorrow! D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 Originally posted by Supra Pilot I am working tonight, D Join the club! Finish at 7am!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted February 8, 2003 Author Share Posted February 8, 2003 .....flight goes to plan..... What FLIGHT ? ? Do you work evenings in AMSTERDAM or sumtin' ? ? HUH, BIG BOY ? ? [don't know about tomorrow ....YET...........shopping AM....so far !] ps. you know those photos of me...WINNING MY PRIZE ooops finger slipped to BIG size for a second there ! Have you got 'better'/bigger versions ? ? Did anyone get shots of US on the strip ? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Pilot Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 Got called in tonight for a jolly to go bristol/luton and back!! Right running off now as she's landed. I'll e mail you the photos I have tomorrow sometime. (They do include the ones I took of you in my rearview mirror on the strip) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 Steve, I'll give you a phone call if I find myself at a loose end one evening when it's raining. You're only about 1/2 an hour away from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted February 9, 2003 Author Share Posted February 9, 2003 1/2 hour ? ? I thought you'd live in Maidstone near your place ? ? It wouldn't be 1/2 hour in the evening from Romford ! ! ('specially if I'M drivin' AND it's raining ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 I actually live about 15/20 minutes from the Dartford tunnel - 30 mins/40 mins to to Romford? - Or I could meet you at Lakeside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 I have 235/45 and 275/40 on the stock 17"s on my NA. Works well, and good grip. Still a lot of space, I may go to 285 or 295s later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted February 9, 2003 Author Share Posted February 9, 2003 I was actually going to say, I'd prefer 275/40's 'cos it would mean A) fractionally more rather than less G' Clearance, and, B) fractionally more rather than less comfort. I was working out the Rolling circumferences and it's only 1-to-3% depending on the width/wall.......not a lot to worry about (plus, I could use Pete's speedo-box to alter the clock back up/down again) Syed, do the rears 'cover' the rims better ? .....do you 'visibly' think you can see more 'width' there ? IF you go 285-295 I presume you'd go down to /35's ? ? FatS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted February 9, 2003 Author Share Posted February 9, 2003 SORRY Matt, SO, you live 'this' side of Maidstone really ? OH, that's a bit better;) Yes, ONLY when you're bored or something, even if you just fancy a coffee at Lakeside/Thurrock. ** THAT GOES FOR ANYONE ELSE TOO......! ! ** [thought I'd add that to pre-crush the obvious follow-ups:sly: ] Although, I'll say it again, I'm a lazy bugger and can't usually be bothered to get out of me' chair...... FatS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 Lots of room left, they don't even hang over the rim much. In fact the front with 235s looks more filled out! Go with 285s IMHO. If I go for 295s, I will probably stick with 40s rather than go down to 35s, there is no need, plenty of space under the arches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted February 9, 2003 Author Share Posted February 9, 2003 Blimey... could eventually look like a Mustang.... or, a 'JACKED-UP' Cortina/Capri ! ! (not that I hate that look either - I AM from that era, after all !) [aren't the 235's the std' size on the front ? ?] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 I think 225 or 235 are the standard on the front. I think 245 is the biggest I would go for them. The stance on the car is nice on 275/40s, I think dropping down to a 35 when going to 295 may spoil this. I like the nose-down look best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted February 9, 2003 Author Share Posted February 9, 2003 SO, you're an "ASS-IN-THE-AIR" guy, HUH ? ? (I've always just liked bigger/chunkier lookin' tyres to be honest I really hate the Ultra-Low-Profile look ! - not your average Jap-car-owner HUH ?) I'm startin' to edge towards that 275/40 feeling............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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