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how to get rid of compressor surge (have HKS rcing type II BOV)


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On my Supra I run a 72mm tubo on 26PSI.

I use the HKS Racing type 2 BOV.

When cruising around and letting off at low and mid boost, or even when going WOT and letting off, I think I get compressor surge.

 

Here´s a video:

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/1607673

 

Sorry, it´s a little boring, but you can hear what I mean....at the beginning you hear how it seems to surge on low boost let offs and at the end of the Video you see some short WOT´s to hear how the turbo seems to get compr. surge then, too.

 

It is surge, right?

 

I´m pretty sure it slows down the turbo between shifts...

 

I will install a 76mm turboand run it at 32-35 PSI soon, but still will cruise around a lot, too.

 

So, if it´s surge (and I think it is), should I eventually switch to 2 x SQV Bov´s???

 

I know my old design SSQV didn´t hold 30+ PSI.

 

BUT... but how´s the new design doing??

What´s different?

Still plastic parts inside?

 

I would be willing to buy 2 new SQV´s, no problem, but they would need to hold the 32-35 PSI, I will run, without leaking or braking internal parts in the BOV (still plastic parts inside?).

 

Or is there an other way to get rid of that compressor surge??

 

Mabye that BOV?:

 

 

I hope anyone can help........

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Compressor stall not surge ;)

 

Surge is when the turbo is producing more air than the engine can ingest, generally not an issue on large turbos only mismatched smaller turbos as they spool up so fast.

 

Stall is when air in the system is not expelled and has no where to go but back through the compressor, this could be caused by the BOV spring being to tight for small amounts of boost.

 

Its a balancing act because if you loosen the spring it may leak at high boost.

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Compressor stall not surge ;)

 

Surge is when the turbo is producing more air than the engine can ingest, generally not an issue on large turbos only mismatched smaller turbos as they spool up so fast.

 

Stall is when air in the system is not expelled and has no where to go but back through the compressor, this could be caused by the BOV spring being to tight for small amounts of boost.

 

Its a balancing act because if you loosen the spring it may leak at high boost.

 

 

Ok, Stall :)

90% of us sure do KNOW what I mean, though ;)

 

 

There´s nothing that can be adjusted on the HKS racing type II that will ensure better (sooner) blow off (according to HKS).

 

The screw is just to adjust that the BOV doens´t open at vacuum and should not be turned (according to HKS).

 

So that´s not it......

 

Anyone else has any thoughts on that??

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Running that sort of pressure, i don't think you BOV is coping with the amount of air, you may find fitting another will sort it but i would be inclined to change it for something like a Tial BOV, much bigger outlet 50mm i think.

 

The HKS racing type II is announced to hold 40 PSI........would be funny if it then is not able to blow off enough.......

 

But you may be right....it seems to be that way :(

 

So that would mean on race application HKS doesn´t care for proper blow off and accepts compressor stall......?? :(

They just trade that in for the high boost holding capabillity.

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