jevansio Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Does anyone else think that the new GTR may have a certain amount of hysteria surrounding it? Initial reports were supposed to indicate the Walther Rohl was the driver behind the fastest Ring lap. Since I've found that Nissan have previously supplied modified cars to promote their Ring laps (R33GTR for example), and that it was one of Nissans top drivers, not Rohl, who actually recorded the 7:38. When you look at the competition it shares around the lap times Here, it's basically saying it can beat the best Mercedes, Porsche, Koenigsegg, Bugatti, Lamborghini & many others have to offer for £30k. Opinions?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Proof will be in the pudding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Proof will be in the pudding. agree, but £30k? surely not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted December 24, 2007 Author Share Posted December 24, 2007 agree, but £30k? surely not I thought that's what the Yen price in £ was??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 I thought that's what the Yen price in £ was??? noped the base model is 7,700,000 just at dealer then it needs to be registered before it can be de registered so i reckon the cheapest one is maybe 8.2 mill in jpan = 37k and the waitng list is till may and nissan uk wont let you import any NEW gtr to the uk before 09.. there is ways round it but the car now commands 7-10k premium to overseas market if you want one now. they go for over 10 mill at auction today.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted December 24, 2007 Author Share Posted December 24, 2007 Sorry, £37k, Still seems rather cheap for a super car slayer, I hope Skoda don't release a 7:37 lap of their Estelle, we'll all be buying them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 wow £37k is still cheap. i thought these were going to be £50k+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris2o2 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 A lot of car for the money . Mind you i thought the rx8 was a good car too , til i drove one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted December 24, 2007 Author Share Posted December 24, 2007 A lot of car for the money . Mind you i thought the rx8 was a good car too , til i drove one If they are putting it up against a 911 why come in at half the price, makes it seem like a cheap copy, priced at 7/8th's of the price would seem more like a competitor, but with a slight price edge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Prices are expected to be about 60k. There was a test video on here the other day and it managed 0-60 in 3.3 and a 1/4 mile in 11.6. That speaks quite a lot and from all the reports I've read so far they've generally it's better than the 911. Can't be too bad then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted December 24, 2007 Author Share Posted December 24, 2007 To be fair Cable, this is exactly the type of post I'm questioning, can a 1700kg+ car pull 0-60 in 3.3 seconds, or did they use a up-spec'd car, let's be honest, Japanese manufacturers hardly play fair (dare I drag up the Toyota restrictor fiasco in the WRC championship). Where did you get your stats from??? Nissan???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 To be fair Cable, this is exactly the type of post I'm questioning, can a 1700kg+ car pull 0-60 in 3.3 seconds, or did they use a up-spec'd car, let's be honest, Japanese manufacturers hardly play fair (dare I drag up the Toyota restrictor fiasco in the WRC championship). Where did you get your stats from??? Nissan???? Errr, no actually. The test was done on an independantly owned GTR and carried out by an American magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted December 24, 2007 Author Share Posted December 24, 2007 Errr, no actually. The test was done on an independantly owned GTR and carried out by an American magazine. Source of info please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=134853 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted December 24, 2007 Author Share Posted December 24, 2007 Errr, no actually. The test was done on an independantly owned GTR and carried out by an American magazine. PS I'm in now way having a dig at you, just want some FACTs that's all, & not some propeganda that Nissan feed us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 more like 40k. histeria.. hell yes. its the new skyline GTR. it *will* eat all those other exotics for breakfast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 PS I'm in now way having a dig at you, just want some FACTs that's all, & not some propeganda that Nissan feed us not a problem mate, I didn't think you were. It's hard to believe what it's capable of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 more like 40k. histeria.. hell yes. its the new skyline GTR. it *will* eat all those other exotics for breakfast. It will never get sold here for 40k. I've been asked by Middlehurst motorsport who will be officially selling them if I would like to put a deposit down on one and they are looking in the region of 55k+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted December 24, 2007 Author Share Posted December 24, 2007 How on earth can a magazine test the difference between 2 cars hitting sub 5 sec 0-60 times in a resolution of 10ths of a second. And without launch control it manages a paultry 4 sec, this car get better by the second, it can manage (with launch control) to beat 2 RWD beasts (the Vette & the Viper), without it's gets beat from all but 1 of them It actaully takes longer to stop than the current 911 model, I love the optimistic outlook of the review writer "we're guessing future versions of the GT-R will get brakes as advanced as the Porsche's", that's it chaps, report whatever you like Phrases like this "Nor is there the sense that the rear-mounted engine of a 911 Turbo is eventually going to find its way to the front." make me think this report already has it in for the 911, did the rear engine actually make it round to the front, or is that what the reporter "expected" would happen. I'm going to stop reading that report now, I'd rather get told what the cars were actaully like, rather than guesses from the reporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 37k is not cheap really - the Z06 falls around that, and the Viper not much above (not that we could get them for that - or I would have one). Yeah - they are all cheap compared to a Porsche - but your just paying for the badge in that case (hence most profitable car co. in the world etc). People would not pay the 120K+ pricetag of the cars the GTR will compete with, for a Nissan, Dodge or Chevy - hence them seeming cheap. Having said that we are always happy to pay through the arse in the UK. So looking at the price on the foreign markets always makes them look cheap. Rest assured you won't get much change out of 60k when it is launched in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 I've read a few reviews now and I think they all say the same thing. The performance is there, the handling is there but the brakes could be better. I reckon people are dubious because it's (relatively) cheap and if it's cheap then "how can it be as good as existing supercars?". How can it be so hard to accept that a major manufacturer can utilise the latest technologies and produce a 'super'car yet we seem to have no trouble accepting that a 12yr old car with dated tech can compete with Porches, Lamborghinis and the rest? As an aside though the GTR does lack top end grunt. Evo magazine could only manage an indicated 180 on the Autobahn but did a brace of indicated 200mph runs in their own 911 Turbo. Mind you, that kind of top end shouldn't be a factor as most owners will never get to those speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 they will be from 55k to 60k if you buy now from japan not sure what the price will be in 09 as official car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivingTheDream Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 I think its gonna be the real deal tbh. There's a new wave of fast cars arriving and this will be part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Proof will be in the pudding. I agree, on performance figures alone it looks like it put all other jap comptetition to shame although no one knows anything about reliability and service costs, and as its a V6 its gonna be a shitter to work on much like the 300zx. Once they have been over here a while and problems have reared there head then and only then will we have a true picture. If it does turn out nissan have build a rock solid reliable car much like the supra then in my opinion the car has all the credentials to blow other jap competition out the water and sit pretty at the top of the pile!! Only thing I can pick fault with is the god awful body styling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 The Nissan is quick and certainly appears up there with the competition, Porsche appears to be their target. Nissan are easily capable of knocking out a supercar for a lower price, they don't spunk money on exotic materials just for the sake of it and concentrate on the hardware. Badge snobbery plays its part in the price of some of the current crop of supercars, this is something Nissan doesn't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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