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Here we are: should be going on the dyno next week for tuning the road manners. Might make a little power too

Hey Ed,

The forums beat me to the punch. The link on Club Lexus has a good write up with good pics on how to install the floating throwout.

Thanks!!

Eric

Ed's ECU is one hell of a good unit.

Eric

Did an American tell you that?

 

V8's are horrible things* - big gangly counterweights all over the crank because they're not naturally balanced like a straight 6 is.

 

Now a V12 is another matter altogether....

 

I'm sure you'll get on splendidly with this project - thanks for trying such an innovative task

 

* although I do have a soft spot for them because of the noise they make and the torque they can develop given the usual obscene capacities.

A V8's secondary balance, it's natural balance, is always off. This applies to everything from a Pontiac to a Ferrari. A V12 and I6 are for all purposes perfectly secondary balanced. The balancing that goes on at the engine shop is the primary balance and any platform can be made to be near perfect. It's just the nature of the game.

Eric

Ed, I'm VERY happy that it arrived [and that we had three straps on it ] It looks like the cradle may have come apart in the rear, but the motor is still in good shape. Outstanding man! I'm very happy for you!

Eric

Ed, did the engine ever arrive?

Eric

Hmmm that's true, I haven't taken much in the way of pics lately. A small update, Titan Darin graciously took his time after work to come trim out the part and full throttle. The car's got some umph. First gear is useless, so we weren't tuning it in 1st gear, just 2nd and 3rd. Stab the throttle and the car moves out from low revs. Next step is to hand it over to Real Steet and Darin to finalize the tune. This motor is going to make some power. Where the old 2jz fell flat at low revs, the V8 jumps out.

I love it!

Eric

That indeed does look to be an auto pedal.

Eric

Made38, is yours a 98 quicksilver?

Eric

Yeah, I sent you a PM. Let's reconfigure.

Eric

Hhaahhaaa... well, we've got the 5.4L stroker crank on the shelf as well as a set of billet mains for the 4 bolt main conversion.

PM me when you get a chance, I can't I'm sure we can work something out.

Eric

Wow, that's fast work. It took me about a year to get my interior wrapped.

Eric

Yeah, the thing to remember as well is that the dyno is just another tool in the belt. Even if the car makes 600rwhp on dyno A and 1000rwhp on dyno B, the main goal is to have the car wind out smoothly to redline and perform within reason. Dyno sheets are good but always should be taken for reference rather than gospel.

Thanks!

Eric

Are we talking a bone stock LS1 vs. a built 2uz 4.7L, though?

Eric

You still have to be concerned with the custom clutch, tranny adapter, custom motor mounts, custom subframe, etc. It's defintiely not a plug and play and by the time your'e all in, you may as well have gone for the Toyota V8TT Having the core motor is only about 5% of the total job, it's only after the core arrives does the real cost and labor begin. That's why the Toyota V8 swaps are so attractive. We can supply the entire V8 and swap kit, soup to nuts, and you can drop the V8 in right off the pallet the afternoon that it arrives.

Eric

I am looking very forward to seeing the V8 dropped into the subframe

Thanks again!

Eric

It would take a lot more cash to put in a LS7TT that it would a 2jz stroker of a 2uzfe V8TT. Without a doubt.

Eric

Ed, I dont know if they sent you an e-mail, but the shipper came to pick up the V8

Eric

and the frequent rebuilds that go along with it.

Eric

Let's get that V8 in there Ed.

Eric

Out of pure curiosity, what are the dyno figures on the engine?

This customers motor is still sitting on his cradle out of the car. We delivered a complete 100% 5.4L engine however the customers is still not ready to install it into his car. He as a widebody project of his own that's rather on again/off again.

Thanks!

Eric

Love it I think if i was starting again i would go V8

 

 

 

Just out of interest how come you've gone with eagle rods? just I didn't think MVP recommend them?

 

 

"We absolutely do not recommend these rods. The stock 2JZ-GTE rods are just as good as these. If you want nice rods then get Carrillo. We offer these in an effort to carry every product for your Supra, however we definitely do not recommend them."

 

http://www.mvpmotorsports.com/Templates/frmTemplateM7.asp?SubFolderID=559&SearchYN=N

 

Or are they significantly different in this V8 application?

No real reason, that's just what comes with the kit. They're not a bad rod and the ones that we've gotten so far have all been within a gram of each other. There are much better rods available, Carillo comes to mind. We can also upgrade to Carrillo, no doubt, just that the pricing is higher. We're talking a difference of ~$1600 usd just in rods. It's all up to the end user, we're flexible.

Eric

So im just curious, how much does it cost?

Think you'll have to PM, mustnt want to give out all their secrets

Ohh, sorry guys I didn't see the postings. Here's the rundown of parts that go into a high compression 5.4L NA.

...JE Pistons/ total seal rings

...Eagle V8 4340 custom rods w/ ARP 2000 rod bolts

...Billet 9310 custom stroker crank, 5.4L

...TTC Performance Products Camshafts, any grind.

...TTC Performance Products Valve Springs, standard

...ARP Head

...ARP Main Studs

...TTC Performance Products main cap bracing

...TTC Performance Products twin plenum intake manifold

...TTC Performance Products V160 adapter kit

...TTC Performance Products V8 fuel rails

...Rochester, Siemens, or similar name brand US Domestic injectors

...Quarter Master twin plate clutch w/ install kit

...Cometic MLS Head Gaskets

...Complete, clean core

...Steel V8 /MKIV motor mounts

...ACL bearings

...S&S headers

...1uzfe oil dipstick, upper and lower pans, and pickup

...modded oem higher pressure oil pump

...Fully assembled engine ready to go w/

AC compressor, PS pump, and 180 amp alternator

Total pricing with assembly is 13,618.60GBP at todays exchange rate. Here's a pick of a 5.4L stroker bottom end coming together on one of our other builds.

I wanted to share these as well, I got these today. They're 4 bolt splayed main caps provided by a premier race team that produced the original 1800HP Blast Racing V8TT. These are the very same style main caps used to build that incredible block. For reference, that V8TT was the first import motor to break the 200mph barrier.

These 4 bolt splayed mains can make one strong bottom end.

Eric