charlton Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Buying a pre facelift Supra aerotop TT and converting it to manual or a facelift aerotop then converting it to a manual TT - both would need to have big BHP/HP/RWHP/PS or any other form of power measuring for cars there is. Wouldn't be too fussed about resale value, the way the prices are going recently they will be giving them away in cereal boxes soon more interested in the cost to mod for power/handling etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 you doing the same thing but one is newer so the facelift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 he's converting one to a manual as it's TT already, but the facelift to a manual, and a TT, so more money on the second option... I still prefer the facelift so would go that route if money's not an issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlton Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 I know a facelift is more desireable should it come to a selling point but I did not know if the VVTi engine is more or less tuneable than the pre facelift engine - also if it costs more I wouldn't be able to do this for a while but you gotta plan ahead Would probably go for a pre facelift and then drop my 5 speed in there for a while - untill I melt the clutch!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 As I understand it the VVTI engine is harder to tune, but you could always stick a non VVTI TT engine in a facelift car anyway. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 As someone who has done the NA aerotop to facelift VVTi single aerotop tiptronic, it isn't an easy job as there are a lot of quirky things when moving to a facelift. You will need entire dash looms. Also the vvti engine is very quirky when it comes to engine management systems, and in my experience you will benefit from going straight away to a standalone unit. PS : No point in getting an aerotop TT if you are going to go VVTi, just get an NA one and take everything out. If you are feeling REALLY brave the easiest option might be to get a facelift VVTi car and a cheap aerotop NA and do a shell swap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlton Posted January 22, 2008 Author Share Posted January 22, 2008 As I understand it the VVTI engine is harder to tune, but you could always stick a non VVTI TT engine in a facelift car anyway. Mike From what I understand from Jezz the VVTi is fly by wire throtle or something like that and has different ECU's etc so it would be difficult to swap a non VVTi with a VVTi If you are feeling REALLY brave the easiest option might be to get a facelift VVTi car and a cheap aerotop NA and do a shell swap. I was thinking of getting a facelift aero and a facelift manual tt then putting the engine and gear box into the aerotop. Of course I will also need approval from the missus which wont be easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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