Supra_Nish Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 Help! Got my blitz turbo timer fitted yesterday and it works fine - to a certain extent. The alarm fitted automatically locks the doors when you start the engine and begin driving, and therefore unlocks the doors when you turn off the ignition. This is where the problem begins, the turbo timer kicks when i turn off the car, i remove the keys and lock it. But when the countdown has finished the engine stops and the doors unlock!!! Anyway to get round this? Leaving doors unlocked with timer counting down doesn't result in them locking, they prob would after a 60 second time out built into the alarm. Any help guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nish_supra?? Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 bump bump bump Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprz_rz Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 The doors unlock, when the engine stops running, so if you arm the toad while your timer is running, your doors will unlock when the timer runs out. No way round it, sorry! The only thing you can do is to wait for the timer to count down, then arm your alarm. Best way to do this, is 1/4 mile away from where you want to stop, start to drive with as low a revs as possible, so as to decrease the counter on your timer. I always do this now, and by the time I get home, my counter has returned to the minimum 10sec count. I just get out of the car, and by the time I have walked a few paces away, the engine dies and I then arm the alarm. I have to do this, as I have the same toad as you with a timer as well. The alarm fitter cannot bypass the "doors opening when engine stops running" function. Saftey feature you see. If you have a crash and you had the doors locked while driving, the doors unlock as soon as the engine dies. Something like that anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprz_rz Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 Oh yeah, your 60 second re-lock feature will only activate if you had dis-armed your alarm and not opened a door to get in. If you arm your alarm and the doors lock, then your timer runs out and the doors unlock, the alarm doesnt do a relock, unless you press the arm button again on your remote after your doors have unlocked themselves. Sorry CAT 1 alarms for yer ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nish_supra?? Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 bugger! There must be a way, i only got the timer so i dont have to wait around! Sorry kinda impatient like that. I dont mind giving up the feature of the doors auto-locking when you start the car, surely that would stop it trying to de-lock when turned off and hence stop the timer prob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 You can disable the auto lock doors feature of the Toad Ai606.... I'm sure this would solve your problem. Have a look at the card that came with the system, it will tell you how by entering a code via turning the ignition key in a set sequence. HTH, Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprz_rz Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 Auto lock feature can be turned off, however, unlock on engine stop cannot. Sorry. My doors do not lock when I start the car, however I still have the same prob as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 The fact that turbo timers and alarms don't work in unison makes the turbo timer redundant in my opinion. You've got to sit in the car and wait for it to run down, so why bother with the turbo timer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprz_rz Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 The timer is there to make sure you dont switch off too early. Can you tell how long you should let your engine run on for every time you drive it. One day you drive it hard and give it 2 mins cool down, another day you drive it slowly and give it 20 seconds. Who can say that these times are right, unless you can have an accurate idea of how hard your turbo has been running. Timers give you that accuracy. As I said, 1/4 mile away from where you want to stop, take a look at your timer and see how long it would count down from if you were to stop there and then. If it is 3 mins, you have been driving hard, so slow down and by the time you get to where you want, the timer will be only a few seconds. If the timer shows only a few seconds, then stay driving at your current pace. I always glance at my timer. If it climbs too high ( what you determine as high might be more or less than what I determine ) then slow down. It can only help keep your turbos happy and cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra_Nish Posted August 6, 2004 Author Share Posted August 6, 2004 I agree with both of you guys. Yes i was disappointed (understatement) to see the doors unlock themselves when the timer ended. But even then it is a great help in accurately defining how long the car should remain idling. In a perfect world they would work in unison but hey ho! BTW my car does re-arm after it unlocks due to timer. I tested it at the local gym, timer had a minute to go (having a bit of fun with an M3 ) so left it running with doors locked. When i came back they were locked, so i'm assuming the timeout kicked in and locked them after 60 seconds. Perhaps theres a way to reduce this timeout to say 10-20 seconds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilg Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 oh crap, I pick my car up from from the port on monday (arrived yesterday morning) and i have waiting to go on it a toad ai606and a blitz fatt turbo timer, i wish i had never read this post, gutted!!! Anyway like you say just drive steady before shutdown, doesnt take long for turbos to cool down if you have not been hammering them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 Originally posted by suprz_rz The timer is there to make sure you dont switch off too early. Can you tell how long you should let your engine run on for every time you drive it. One day you drive it hard and give it 2 mins cool down, another day you drive it slowly and give it 20 seconds. Who can say that these times are right, unless you can have an accurate idea of how hard your turbo has been running. Timers give you that accuracy. As I said, 1/4 mile away from where you want to stop, take a look at your timer and see how long it would count down from if you were to stop there and then. If it is 3 mins, you have been driving hard, so slow down and by the time you get to where you want, the timer will be only a few seconds. If the timer shows only a few seconds, then stay driving at your current pace. I always glance at my timer. If it climbs too high ( what you determine as high might be more or less than what I determine ) then slow down. It can only help keep your turbos happy and cool. Hmmm I tend to give the car a minute to "cool" no matter what, but then I also tend to take it easy when I get close to where I'm going to. No.2 turbo isn't for housing estates See what your saying though. TBTH my car has a turbo timer that I've tucked well away behind the centre consol. Never get's used at all. Regards Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeT Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 you should do what i do. ive fitted ETTC so for the last mile or so drive, i switch to true twin and keep the turbos off boost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 My mate is an auto-electrician, he has just fitted my Cat1 Alarm and turbo timer. I can walk away from the car set the alarm and the car stays locked. When the timer cuts off the car is immobilised. The only thing is that i have to release the handbrake to start it again just so the alarm will disable the immobiliser:) So it can be done just takes some messing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted August 8, 2004 Share Posted August 8, 2004 The other problem is that it will in-validate your alarms thatcham status.... (Well that's what the alarm bloke said when I asked him to link my turbo timer to the alarm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo Posted August 8, 2004 Share Posted August 8, 2004 I remember reading an article ages ago in a Ford tuning magazine about an alternative to a turbo timer. If I remember correctly, it was essentially a small bottle, some tubing and a couple of valves. The idea behind it was that as the engine was running, the valves (attatched to an oil feed somewhere) would slowly syphon off a small amount of oil and store it in the bottle. When the engine was turned off, the oil stored in the bottle drained back through the turbos cooling ducts and achieved the same effect as a turbo timer. But this was a good few years ago and if I remember correctly, it was just a prototype modification on an escort cossie being tested by a tuning firm. Maybe someone like Graham Goode Racing would have an idea? As this has no electrical connections and is essentially a stand alone system it would be ideal as an alternative to a turbo timer. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra dan Posted August 8, 2004 Share Posted August 8, 2004 must be some way to stop it, mine had the toad 606i and a timer fitted when i got the car but mine doesnt unlock the doors on shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt Posted August 8, 2004 Share Posted August 8, 2004 It can be done ......... I used to have the same alarm with an HKS TT ....It doesn't work out of the box but can be made to. Can't quite remember what I did ,(over 4 years ago) but it wasn't rocket science. IIRC theres some good info on Arnout's site ..... I'm sure I 've posted the link before.... so 'search' is your friend:thumbs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt Posted August 8, 2004 Share Posted August 8, 2004 Or you could always ask Mr Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra_Nish Posted August 8, 2004 Author Share Posted August 8, 2004 Mr Nice? Tried a search for "arnouts" site but no luck, u got a link? I know there has to be a way round this but alarm traders i've been to only seem to be interested in trying to sell me a clifford! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Mr Nice is Matt Harwood ....... resident ICE/Alarm Guru. Arnout's site is supras.nl........ theres a section on turbo timers and aftermarket alarms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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