RedM Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 I remember something that happened a few years back in Worthing. A woman was knocked over by a cyclist. She had decided to walk into a cycle lane without looking. Obviously the cyclist was blamed and no-one thought to question the womans lack of awareness or care. I think it highlights a problem with pedestrians, cyclists and motorists today. We don't take as much care as we should and where posssible try to blame anyone but ourselves when things go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 What was the outcome, if she had been hit by a car, the insurance would have paid out, hit by an uninsured cyclist hmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Don't know any insurance payouts however the cycle lane was removed due to cyclists being a danger to pedestrians not that pedestrians wander around like brain-dead cattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Exactly, you can be within the speed limit but on a busy road (parked cars), if someone steps out without looking and you hit them even though you were within the law you'd likely get death by dangerous driving - which is a hefty sentence and a life-ruiner (as is the constant memory of killing someone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASHTHEBISHOP Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Should bring in american law and prosecute jay-walkers. A friend of mine knocked down a teenage girl recently after she just walked out in front of her whilst on her mobile phone paying no attention to traffic whatsoever. Witnesses even told police this but my friend was treated like a criminal for it. Cyclists in my opion should only be allowed on the road after taking a test - who else can just mix with the traffic with no licence, training etc. If they choose to do so anyway and are involved in or cause an accident yet again they should be prosecuted. Surely things just need to be balanced up a bit more in favour of the car drivers who do pay for the roads in so many ways - car & road tax, astronimacal fuel tax etc etc Rant over:tongue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 so now you like the idea of cycle paths ? your legs are a method of transport. If you walk into the road and get hit by a car and damage the car who pay,s ? You are just getting silly now. A bike is a method of transport powered by a chain with gears and pedals for my sexy looking legs. You and I both know that the potential of damage from just cycling (tubular metal frame, sticking out handlebars) has more potential for unintentional damage than me just walking along the path. I can see the point you are making but I don't agree with it. A bike is a vehicle, simple as that. It should be insured for damage to other property. A bike is also capable of far more than 4mph (walking speed) and capable of causing as many if not more accidents as pedestrians. If you want to carry on being pedantic about it then that's all I have to say on the matter. Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 I walked into a car once. It was a Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Should bring in american law and prosecute jay-walkers. A friend of mine knocked down a teenage girl recently after she just walked out in front of her whilst on her mobile phone paying no attention to traffic whatsoever. Witnesses even told police this but my friend was treated like a criminal for it. Cyclists in my opion should only be allowed on the road after taking a test - who else can just mix with the traffic with no licence, training etc. If they choose to do so anyway and are involved in or cause an accident yet again they should be prosecuted. Surely things just need to be balanced up a bit more in favour of the car drivers who do pay for the roads in so many ways - car & road tax, astronimacal fuel tax etc etc Rant over:tongue: Well said that man, covers everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 I don't think there's any way of solving the cyclist "problem". I was in Cambridge last year and the cyclists there are everywhere and they're all nutters! We were walking to the pub and were chatting, my mate was gesturing, as he did he smacked his arm against a cyclist who'd took to the pavement! Saw loads of bikes weaving between lanes on a roundabout too! At the same time though, it'd be a killjoy to make kids do tests and have to get insurance before they could ride their bikes, i used to love my bike as a kid! It's down to parents etc to teach kids (and some adults!) the Green Cross Code. Don't walk out into the road before looking and looking again etc! Don't get so wrapped up in chatting on your bloody mobile that you forget that there's a road in front of you! I hate it when people walk in front of you without looking, you have to slam your brakes on and then they end up scowling at you! Erm it's not my fault, i had right of way and you didn't look! If i'm in a bad mood then i sometimes speed up a bit if someone (car or person) pulls/walks out straight in front without looking, nice to see their faces drop as 650bhp of supra heads at them :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 I think it would be a good idea for kids to do a compulsory cycling proficiency test, at least it would give them some sort of road sense. Any sort of helpful knowledge must be a bonus in helping them stay safe on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSZ Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 ............and at the same time, drivers should be made more aware of cyclists. There have been numberous times when I have been travelling along a road, keeping up with traffic and a numpty car driver waiting to come out of a side road has looked at me and dismissed me as a cyclist - not noticing that I am actually moving at 30mph!! Then there's the number of times I have been pushed into the gutter or forced to jump onto the pavement because some moron in a car can't be bothered to wait till it's clear to go round me and suddenly realises that there is something coming the other way. Have you ever tried keeping your composure when some muppet blats past your elbow at 70mph+ ?? At the end of the day I recon ALL road users need better education :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASHTHEBISHOP Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 and women shouldn't wear revealing clothes anywhere near a road. Nearly crashed 3x driving up Park St. in Bristol today:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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