BURT Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 as the title says, want to go for more power but need more info, so would greatly app' your help. so for those who know wich is the best setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 there is a really big thread on this at the moment have a quick search....the answer seems to be single! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 single is better ,but costs a lot of money to do properly,hybrids is good for some one on a budget who wants more power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobAce Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 hi burt looks like your going to be in trouble with the misses again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RobAce Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 :giveup:is she talking to you yet girlfriends and cars = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Trouble with hybrids is if you decide you want more power still, you have to start from scratch again, having wasted a lot of money in the process. You can get a single for not a lot more than hybrids, admitedly you wont get much power from it, but it has potential that can be unlocked as funds permit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURT Posted November 25, 2005 Author Share Posted November 25, 2005 :giveup:is she talking to you yet girlfriends and cars = yeah she loves me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 i went hybrids, but at that time singles were mega money, but now, with the vortex budget kit - i'd go single - but saying that I have most of the supporting mods to deal with a single. But.. I dont regret the hybrids one bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURT Posted November 25, 2005 Author Share Posted November 25, 2005 Trouble with hybrids is if you decide you want more power still, you have to start from scratch again, having wasted a lot of money in the process. You can get a single for not a lot more than hybrids, admitedly you wont get much power from it, but it has potential that can be unlocked as funds permit. ok, so if your an auto box, ideal bhp figure is the 500 mark would the twins do as good a job as the single? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 500 would just about the limit of a set of hybrids, chances are you would need sligtly bigger injectors and something to control them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURT Posted November 25, 2005 Author Share Posted November 25, 2005 500 would just about the limit of a set of hybrids, chances are you would need sligtly bigger injectors and something to control them. a bigger fuel rail and 650 inj' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 You can run a T67 on 650's with the stock rail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 a bigger fuel rail and 650 inj' ? I have UK 550's - I belive you can run a T61 on these - dont quote me on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 You can and I do, 1.4 bar is the absolute limit though with duty cycle ~95%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURT Posted November 25, 2005 Author Share Posted November 25, 2005 I have UK 550's - I belive you can run a T61 on these - dont quote me on that! sorry lads i was talking about hybrids, if i used a bigger fuel rail and 650 would i achieve the 500 mark without stressing the twins and egt's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 You can only burn so much fuel, 650's are over kill for any hybrids. EGT's will be much higher due to the small housings not being designed to flow so much air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 I personally havent had issues with EGT's at 1.3/1.4 bar never gone over 900 - But in the long run I think you better off going single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel lane Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 you have to look at this option .. £600 - £1500 for hybrids or £1800 for a single kit +fuel+fuel computer+tunning+fmic... then you want more , next thing you it , bye bye supra because you cant afford it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURT Posted November 25, 2005 Author Share Posted November 25, 2005 You can only burn so much fuel, 650's are over kill for any hybrids. EGT's will be much higher due to the small housings not being designed to flow so much air. yep got that bit, but are they safe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 yep got that bit, but are they safe? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURT Posted November 25, 2005 Author Share Posted November 25, 2005 fecking hell!!! i just dont know what to do, i know for a good t61 or simular the kit is gonna be about £2500 + e-mnage, ijectors, fitting etc its got to be around £4000. and i,m asumming the twins will only be about half that? i am bpu at the mo' so getting about 400hp, my aim is 500 hp, the car is not a dily driver i only do about 5000miles a year, if in can get the 500 hp with reliable power using hybrids fitted for around the £2-2500 mark surely thats a +? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 i went hybrids, but at that time singles were mega money, but now, with the vortex budget kit - i'd go single - but saying that I have most of the supporting mods to deal with a single. But.. I dont regret the hybrids one bit Shame you didn't get the power I got with just my supporting mods Which brings me onto the crux of it. You can get similar power to hybrids by doing the first setup stages of a single kit. 264 or above cams, water injection, FSE, decat, fuel cut defencer, big assed exhaust, upgraded intercooler, boost controller, will give you the same power or better than just sticking hybrids in. If your question is if you do the supporting mods like above which to go for, single or hybrids then I would say it depends on what sort of driving you intend on doing. Urban with light extra urban then stick with the hybrids. If drag use and mostly extra urban then go single. I'd personally plumb for a big twin system myself. My ideal system would be low end supercharger spooling a big turbo. fecking hell!!! i just dont know what to do, i know for a good t61 or simular the kit is gonna be about £2500 + e-mnage, ijectors, fitting etc its got to be around £4000. and i,m asumming the twins will only be about half that? i am bpu at the mo' so getting about 400hp, my aim is 500 hp, the car is not a dily driver i only do about 5000miles a year, if in can get the 500 hp with reliable power using hybrids fitted for around the £2-2500 mark surely thats a +? you could get 500 at the fly with the mods i have on mine and hybrids running 1.5 bar I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Shame you didn't get the power I got with just my supporting mods Which brings me onto the crux of it. You can get similar power to hybrids by doing the first setup stages of a single kit. 264 or above cams, water injection, FSE, decat, fuel cut defencer, big assed exhaust, upgraded intercooler, boost controller, will give you the same power or better than just sticking hybrids in. here we go again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURT Posted November 25, 2005 Author Share Posted November 25, 2005 well its a toy only, not a daily driver, so i only use it for going to meets, cruising around at the weekends and having some serious fun when the missus isnt in the car, country A roads are a must and hard blatts on the motorway too, not to botherd about the drag runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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