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I was thinking how do we as individuals actually bring about changes in the law. Im not siding either way on the DP sometimes I get mad and wish it was there; then I think being locked up for life cant be too funny (no sympathy intended).

What is really bad is how folk get out after being sentenced to life it should be life.

In democracy if majority want to "reintroduce the DP" thats what should happen isnt it?

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Originally posted by Jake

Don't stop, Cliff. I was enjoying this thread.

 

Originally posted by CJ

Me too!

 

 

And me! This is probably the most interesting threads I've seen in Chit Chat for eons!

 

 

Trevor, well recovered mate :thumbs: And I can sort of see where you're coming from, but I'm not getting involved 'cause Cliff can out-brain me every day of the week! :p

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Heres a thought, all these people that get released form prison after, say, 10 years or so, for a murder they didnt commit, after new evidence has been found...........we all sit here and say "the poor bugger, locked up for all those years for something he didnt do".

 

Yet the day he was locked up, 10 years ago, we were all saying, "should bring back the death penalty for him, he definately did it, without a doubt, the evil bar stuard"

 

When is it ever conclusive? New evidence pops up even after all those years, and new crime investigating techniques are being found all the time.

 

How would we live with ourselves if it was us that pulled that lever to hang him, only to find 10 years later he was set up ???

 

And did you know the death penalty is still actually existant in the armed forces?

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Originally posted by marica

Heres a thought, all these people that get released form prison after, say, 10 years or so, for a murder they didnt commit, after new evidence has been found...........we all sit here and say "the poor bugger, locked up for all those years for something he didnt do".

 

yeah i think that but feel more sorry for them when they get charged for the privilege of staying in jail for those 10 years!! anyone see the story about the bloke who was held for 20 odd years and was awarded £750k in compensation.....almost half of which he was charged for food and board for the 20 years in jail! :twak:

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If anyone is familier with the story of Derek Bently, one of the last, 'argueably erroneous' hangings in the late 50's, It's not suprising that the death penalty has been dropped.

If anyones not famillier with it, do a search for either "Derek Bently", or "Let him have it". (the "let him have it" phrase is pretty much responsible for him being hung).

 

Having said that, I know I'd feel differently if someone harmed a member of my family or a close friend. In fact, depending on what was done, I may even want to watch/partake in the execution!

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Originally posted by marica

Heres a thought, all these people that get released form prison after, say, 10 years or so, for a murder they didnt commit, after new evidence has been found...........we all sit here and say "the poor bugger, locked up for all those years for something he didnt do".

 

Yet the day he was locked up, 10 years ago, we were all saying, "should bring back the death penalty for him, he definately did it, without a doubt, the evil bar stuard"

 

I agree, but if we had the death penalty there would be no "10 years down the road dismissal", due to the fact that the guy would be dead and there would be no appeal proceedings. It would cut the appeal time down to a couple of years maximum before they were put to death. It would never get to the point of numerous appeals as 99% of the families would not be able to afford to keep fighting for a dead man/woman.

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Originally posted by Matt Harwood

If anyone is familier with the story of Derek Bently, one of the last, 'argueably erroneous' hangings in the late 50's, It's not suprising that the death penalty has been dropped.

Ah yes, Bentley and Craig. I'm very familiar with that one.

"Let him have it, Chris" was interpretted by the court as an instruction to kill PC Miles. Bentley claimed that he meant for Craig to give over his gun to the policemen.

Bentley was in police custody at the time.

Craig actually killed the cop but Bentley was the one to be hanged. Craig was too young to be hanged. I think he was released a few years ago and is free man now.

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Originally posted by Matt Harwood

Can you imagine how guilty Chris Craig must feel!

 

Did Bentlys sister ever get the posthumous pardon she'd been campaigning for for years?

I can't remember if he said in court that it was Bentley's "Let him have it" that made him pull the trigger. If not, I can't imagine how they could have possibly found Bentley guilty of murder.

 

According to http://www.innocent.org.uk/cases/derekbentley

Bentley was eventually pardoned in '98. Sadly, his sister never lived to see it, she died in 1997. :(

 

 

 

Edit to change "mother" to "sister"

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I thought it was one of the Police testomonies stating that Derek had shouted "let him have it" aggressivly, egging Chris on... I thought Chris had denied hearing Derek shout it at all...

 

I'm probably wrong though. It was about 15 years ago that I read about the case.

 

Time for some internet searching! :innocent:

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