RedM Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Anyone else find driving a Supra through urban areas and/or at times when you need a short spurt are a PITA with turbos. Lag, lag, lag and the moments gone. I've been driving a works car (Golf TDI) and I love the instant response from the throttle. It makes driving in traffic so much easier than wait for it, wait for it, wait for it, BOOOOOOMMMM! and then hard on the brakes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chumpalot Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 I know what you mean. Saying that though this is the first auto I've owned and it's bliss in traffic. Put your left leg up and relax. I love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 When I had my NA and went to TT. I was like...YES POWER!!! Now im like come on hit 4000rpm...come on...here we come...here we come... ohh time to brake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Cant say I have noticed lag but it does annoy me when you have to wind the car up, the old mans Griff 500 has power and tourque in every gear at all revs. I can keep up but I am changing gear all over the shop where as he dosnt need to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 6, 2007 Author Share Posted September 6, 2007 I kinda (and I say that in a 'I wasn't really trying THAT hard and my girlfriend was in the car too' kinda way) got left behind by a new BMW 3somethingsomething. It shot off up the road and while I reeled it in eventually I can't help but think it would have been easier without Teh Lag! He also overtook a car and tractor on a blind bend so, y'know..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chumpalot Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Would you really want that amount of power from a standing start though? We'd be reading even more incidents of Supra owners spinning and crashing their cars... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 6, 2007 Author Share Posted September 6, 2007 Who said anything about standing starts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Get a T61 with a 360 thrust bearing..... no such thing as lag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyknox Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Change down a gear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 6, 2007 Author Share Posted September 6, 2007 Get a T61 with a 360 thrust bearing..... no such thing as lag Does it spool from 0rpm then? Change down a gear? Yeah, but in an auto it's not that much fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chumpalot Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Who said anything about standing starts? You know what I mean though, anything up to say 30/40mph. I've been left by some pretty mediocre cars (all overtaken at higher speeds however). I put it down to my crap driving though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Does it spool from 0rpm then? Does the golf TDI ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Martin, use manu mode it gets rid of any lag, rather than using D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Can't say lag really concerns me, even with the UK turbos, I just move that stick to my left or click the OD button to get the revs higher, basic driving skill isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 6, 2007 Author Share Posted September 6, 2007 Martin, use manu mode it gets rid of any lag, rather than using D. I do but downshifting to 2nd at 40 can't be doing the box any favours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 6, 2007 Author Share Posted September 6, 2007 Does the golf TDI ? No, but I reckon it's far more lively when not using it's little, tiny turbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 I do but downshifting to 2nd at 40 can't be doing the box any favours. It's built to do that, don't worry so much Gearboxes are cheap anyway, all the auto > manual lot can't even give them away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markssupra Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 I use manual mode quite alot, unless I feel lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Black Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Well someones just done a supercharged one on here NO LAG there & the V8 one NO LAG there either. So you get caught with your pants down occasionally you soon catch up and fly past, its like giving them a head start:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Anyone else find driving a Supra through urban areas and/or at times when you need a short spurt are a PITA with turbos. Lag, lag, lag and the moments gone. I've been driving a works car (Golf TDI) and I love the instant response from the throttle. It makes driving in traffic so much easier than wait for it, wait for it, wait for it, BOOOOOOMMMM! and then hard on the brakes! Are you running yours in TTC mode then? I don't have any trouble getting mine to work (sequential) when I want them to. Either put it in manu mode, or just drop it into 2nd. Its surprising how fast you can go in 2nd! Get those revs up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Gearboxes are cheap anyway, all the auto > manual lot can't even give them away. Depends which auto box you have. It catches me out too sometimes Martin if I'm not expecting it and don't have time to switch to Tip mode. I loved the NA for around town, pulling out of junctions etc. I'm a lot more cautious in the TT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Is yours decated Martin? IME the responsiveness improves dramatically once it is fully decatted and running higher than 1.1bar. You will still get that 'lag' scenario when you're caught in the wrong gear though, but that’s what you get from having a high geared 4 speed car and a 'tiny' 3 litre. From what you've been saying for a while now it sounds like you want high torque available in almost any gear. There's only one way to get that - big CC's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 You folks seem to have a different understanding of the word lag to mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 You folks seem to have a different understanding of the word lag to mine. True; was going to mention it but realised I don't know what to call it. Is lag is the time it takes for a turbo to spool to full speed when exhaust gas flow is readily available? What would you call the delay in a compressor creating positive boost pressure due to insufficient exhaust gas flow? (such as RedM is describing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Black Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 No substitute for cubes bar say a supercharger, when talkin pure torque, i don't find my suup anywhere near as laggy as my old S2 was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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