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mattanna

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Been suggested by panel of mp's to increase road tax for fuel guzzlers to £1800 per year, that is £150 per month and would shaft me, not a definite, do you think we will get away with it due to not knowing original co2 on logbook, import etc, or hopefully if they do bring it in just for new cars, only suggestion by green panel, but what a fucker if they do it, :blink:

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On bbc news today a panel of mp's have met to discuss transport plans and they are suggesting a hike in road tax from £210 to £1800 for highest c02 polluting cars in order to put people of owning them.I for instance use mine daily for work, if they did this i would have to pay it as would not be able to sell car as people would not be buying them as much, how can that be right, we pay more tax by using more fuel. They are saying that harsh actions are needed, also looking at increasing levy on airlines as they pollute the most, it could happen in next couple of years.Sorry reposrt as ian r already mentioned it

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I heard this on GMTV this morning. Didnt really go into full details, but basically they were quoting figures of £1800 per year for "4x4's and gas guzzlers"

 

As mattanna says, it would screw people who own high performance/big engine cars, as nobody would buy it if you wanted to sell!

 

Shocking if this actually goes ahead (cant see it myself)

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bunch of wankers with nothing better to do - i say we vote j-clarkson for prime minister :cheer:

 

Now there is a bloody good idea! :D

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Its Absolutely disgraceful.

 

By The way Can I make something clear here, Im actually called Green Peace and not 'Greenpeace'

 

Although I agree with some of the ethics of what Greenpeace do, they are more towards saving the Whale and stopping Seals being Clubbed to death...the Green was coz i had a 'Green' car and 'Peace' because I like a good row....lol.

 

Seriously though...I now have a 3.4 litre petrol 4x4....I bought it so I would have a 'go anywhere' vehicle for camerawork..and I would hopefully be unrestricted work wise..plus i can get all my gear in a it and 5 passengers!

 

It was a choice between, an estate car, a people carrier or a 4x4, I prefered the versatility of the 4x4 and means i can take part in more challenging work and in challenging conditions so would give me a unique selling point.

 

There are people that buy them to cope with Ribina slicks in Radlett and Weybridge, or to cope with the difficult terrain between Knightsbridge and Sloane Sq.

 

All this means is that people that use them for a genuine purpose...wont be able to afford to run them and people that dont need them...will still be able to afford them.

 

If you look at a Range Rover 4.4 or the Sport, at between £50k and £70k an extra £1800 is not really going to make a huge difference to people that can afford these cars, and no-doubt some of the top end vehicles will probably lower the prices or incorporate this fee.

 

Then theres the other factor that maybe if less people do buy them because of the new roadtax, people who make them 'British people' will be on the dole.

 

If this stupid government wants to save the planet and it people then maybe instead of losing money by helping to close down Land Rover and people that work there, why dont they 'lose' some money investing in more ecological fuel developement, instead of persicuting the general public!

 

Oh yeah lets all get on our bicycles...we'll just all cycle 50 miles a day to work and back and ill carry all my gear on my back,whilst all the 'MD's' of companies get to drive to work in 4x4's and big cars and we'll all take a cut in our wages in order to pay their expensive congestion charges, parking fees and extra tax revenue...this is basically what the Government wants....

 

Some Labour Government hey!!!!!!!!!

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It's absolutely ridiculous putting this on road tax - that doesn't actually hit the people who USE the petrol.

 

I mean - you could own a Supra and drive it 1,000 miles a year and only burn 200L of petrol, and have to pay £1,800 tax, whereas you could own a poxy Prius and actually cause more ecological harm by doing more mileage!!!

 

Surely the proper way to handle this is to increase PETROL tax, not ROAD tax - you should be taxed for DRIVING your car, not just for OWNING it - but then everybody complains about petrol tax increases too, I guess!!! :blink:

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It's absolutely ridiculous putting this on road tax - that doesn't actually hit the people who USE the petrol.

 

I mean - you could own a Supra and drive it 1,000 miles a year and only burn 200L of petrol, and have to pay £1,800 tax, whereas you could own a poxy Prius and actually cause more ecological harm by doing more mileage!!!

 

Surely the proper way to handle this is to increase PETROL tax, not ROAD tax - you should be taxed for DRIVING your car, not just for OWNING it - but then everybody complains about petrol tax increases too, I guess!!! :blink:

 

At the end of the day, you cant blame them for complaining... With petrol being £1 per litre... That is ridiculous! Its what, 40 odd % tax???!?!?!

 

In South Africa petrol is about 55 - 65p per litre... (@current exchange rate). Oh and the government fixes the prices, so no motorway service station prices...

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The BBC gave this list of as an example of "gas guzzlers"

 

Jaguar X type 2.0 petrol saloon auto

Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe 3.6 litre petrol

Renault Espace 2 lite petrol

BMW X5 4.8 litre petrol

Range Rover 4.4 V8 petrol auto

 

How the hell can you say a 2.0 Espace is the same as a 4.8 BMW!

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if it ever happened there would be an uproar!People wouldnt be able to get to work who live too far away to walk or cycle,garages going out of busniess,Mountains of unused cars to be scrapped,Economy would suffer as people wouldnt be able to get around to purchase items

 

return to Dickens era would ensue

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I tried that argument once Si and got totally shot down!!!

 

Well Shoot back Gal he he!

 

I mean i agree we cant go on burning up the earths resources and I also would agree with hardcore Green Campaigners that, the difference between wafting about in a luxury 4x4 and an ecological 'Smart' car is better than walking or cycling everywhere!

 

Its like telling us all instead of the big steak with Peppercorn sauce and 'doorstep' fries, we are going to have to diet on a few lettuce leaves...

 

This is it really we are all being asked to go on an 'automotive' diet to save us all from the obesisity of pollutive gases, and undernourished resources in the future..the easiest answer is obviously...drive fuel efficient cars get the bus, ride a bike...its the strongest arguement!

 

The Golden age of motoring is coming to an end and we were lucky to have enjoyed it!

 

What i dont agree with is the fact that, rich people wont have to be compromised, they will go on 'affording' it, coz they can so whos losing out here?

 

Ive never been totally against the congestion charge, but i just think that it should be charged as per how much your car is worth, so for instance Porche 996 Turbo £100, Toyota Supra...£5 lol, makes sence, means that someone with lots of money to flash about can contribute more to Transport For London and the real 'genuine' petrol heads, who are not driving fast cars for status purposes dont get persecuited for their 'genuine' love of cars...!

 

Launch the missiles lol!

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i would say something like this will eventualy come to be a new law, but i would imagine it will be on new cars, to make the manufaturers think about better enviromently friendly cars, imagine the uproar trying that one on all cars, saying that we are british and will no doubt say nothing

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i would say something like this will eventualy come to be a new law, but i would imagine it will be on new cars, to make the manufaturers think about better enviromently friendly cars, imagine the uproar trying that one on all cars, saying that we are british and will no doubt say nothing

 

That makes a lot of sence Gaz, the media likes to shock, what you said makes total sence!

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