Nash Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) Exhaust emissions likely to be affected by an exhaust leak ( front lambda sensor falling out ) Failed both n/s/r and o/s/r seat belt anchorage prescribed area strength or continuity significently reduced ( n/s/r and o/s/r outer sill ) Rear registration plate Inscription missing Suspension component ball joint excessively worn nearside and offside rears If I remove the rear belts as they are never used will it be no longer part of the MOT ? Is the sensor an easy fix ? Edited August 23, 2021 by Nash more info (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc92 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I think they will still fail you for the corrosion regardless of what you do. Sill corrosion can be put down as suspension mount prescribed area as well, if it's within 30cm. The best bet is to get it welded before it gets any worse. The O2 sensor should be easy to fix, you may need to remove the exhaust manifold heat shield but both should be visible by just opening the bonnet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaoticentity Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Nash said: Exhaust emissions likely to be affected by an exhaust leak ( front lambda sensor falling out ) Failed both n/s/r and o/s/r seat belt anchorage prescribed area strength or continuity significently reduced ( n/s/r and o/s/r outer sill ) Rear registration plate Inscription missing Suspension component ball joint excessively worn nearside and offside rears If I remove the rear belts as they are never used will it be no longer part of the MOT ? Is the sensor an easy fix ? You'd have to remove both the seats and the seatbelts. All seats must have seat belts for the MOT. But the seatbelt mounting points for the rear seats are nowhere near the sills. More likely relating to the lower mount for the front seatbelts. You're much better off sorting the corrosion now before it gets worse as mc92 says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Posted August 24, 2021 Author Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) Thanks for replies, Indeed the welding required is on the sills not inside the car, been quoted £100 a side, I will post a photo up if I can, this car is in project phase and the underneath really needs derusting and coating !!! Exhaust was fixed for £30, minor weld and Lambda put back, rear ball joints being done next week along with a new rear number plate which also failed ! Only last week picked up car after having Tein Street Basis Z Coilovers fitted Edited August 24, 2021 by Nash forgot words (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc92 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 100 a side isn't bad, I think I paid 300 for both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Swampy442 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Ooh Jesus, get those skirts off, bound to be lots more hiding behind there. Have a good look around underneath, bound to be more 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc92 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 That's not pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 Underneath is next !!! When a sill is brand new out of Toyota factory how thick is the steel ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blythmrk Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Swampy442 said: Ooh Jesus, get those skirts off, bound to be lots more hiding behind there. Have a good look around underneath, bound to be more Exactly as Swampy said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleshead Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 £100 a side is too cheap to fix that properly. Rust is almost always worse than it looks on the surface. Don't let anyone 'MOT weld' that, i.e. slap some plates over it. It will just make fixing it properly harder in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Posted August 28, 2021 Author Share Posted August 28, 2021 Thinking of new cills both sides after skirts come off, is that pricey ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 A lot of welding, easy 500 quid for that, but its worth doing properly. My brother got a quote to get some floor repairs on his car and that was 300+ from a mate. Hope you can find some sill panels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan8 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) A £100 a side is probably a bit cheap and most likely under quoted you once the skirts are removed I reckon there will probably much more then they expected and unless there doing a poor job and quick in and out repair where by they just over plating over the rot to the closest decent bit of metal they can find and me personally would prefer to future proof it if the rest of the car is nice and good as it’s a worth while investment these days and prices rising As a welder fabricator by trade I would want to cut or replace the full sill and fabricate any poor inner chassis rails and sills including sealing and painting and cavity injecting it all as I go along Hope you get it sorted and start enjoying driving her again mate Edited August 28, 2021 by Dan8 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradleyh_15 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 12:19 PM, Nash said: Thinking of new cills both sides after skirts come off, is that pricey ? Can get sill panels from SRD or Kieron at extreme performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Posted September 4, 2021 Author Share Posted September 4, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 11:32 AM, bradleyh_15 said: Can get sill panels from SRD or Kieron at extreme performance Thanks for that, the welder my garage recomends is on holiday so on hold for 10 days 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 Bit of an update, where I took the car for the MOT that failed I took it back to a month later and they wouldn't even test it as the MOT tester ( different tester to the last one ) said I don't have an airbag on the steering wheel so no point doing another MOT, now, the previous tester at this garage did not mention this or put it on the fail sheet and it's passed the previous 3 MOT tests without a mention !!! Anyone else had this issue ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabella Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Nash said: Bit of an update, where I took the car for the MOT that failed I took it back to a month later and they wouldn't even test it as the MOT tester ( different tester to the last one ) said I don't have an airbag on the steering wheel so no point doing another MOT, now, the previous tester at this garage did not mention this or put it on the fail sheet and it's passed the previous 3 MOT tests without a mention !!! Anyone else had this issue ? Taken from ask an MOT Tester Would an aftermarket steering wheel be a fail on a 2003 Clio 172? I removed the original airbag equipped steering wheel but fitted resistors to prevent the airbag light coming on. An airbag fitted as original equipment obviously missing..Major fail sorry If however the car has been majorly modified: Does it not depend on other factors? I thought it was ok if the car was evidently modified for competition/track use? Substantially...full cage, stripped out, seats, maybe scrutineering stickers and you might get away with it, just a steering wheel for track days ain't gonna cut it Edited October 7, 2021 by Annabella (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 Thanks Annabella, it's a pain ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 Current steering wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Did it ever have an airbag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 Not sure, I bought it with this steering wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 I think it had an airbag because tester could see the wires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erachter Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 If it had an airbag it would have been on the passenger side too, so your car came without one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, erachter said: If it had an airbag it would have been on the passenger side too, so your car came without one. Not true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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