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Homers '98 RSP TT project


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Daryll have you tried buy a Supra that works :D, on a serious note good luck bud.

 

The boot situation needs explaining, looks more like someone dropped a heavy weight on the rear structure rather than accident related damage, before the engine was installed perhaps someone tried putting it in the boot with the hatch off, it's just a suggestion. The trans tunnel looks like it was welded by a chimp, but reading Jason's reply, I guess that might not be too far fetched an idea.

 

Good Luck

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Hey Daryll, I am sure it's all fixable and looks much worse than it is. If you need a hand with anything don't hesitate to get in touch. as intimidating as it looks, with a wiring diagram, soldering iron, multi meter and heatshrink I am sure we could sort it.

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I can assure everyone, no one is more pissed off than me about this. Some of the things Daryl pointed out to me made me ashamed of my ignorance. Some of the crap was on the shell before I got it admittedly. I was just too stupid to see it... The "hole" is one such thing. The boot is another.

 

The garage where the rest of the work was done is Bottisham Garage in cambridge, I will not comment on what I think of it as I'm staying neutral... for now. The two people were RobD from this forum and his boss Jon.

 

Tbh I didn't want to post anything but its riled me up again to see it all staring me in the face. I've had several professional garages tell me that this work isn't acceptable.

 

I was just living in ignorance asking for advice and not getting it. It's a shame this has all happened but the car couldn't be in a better place right now. I really thought id have that car for life!

 

Anyway to all those who think you know someone, think twice! There are many con artists about....

 

At least your honest about being done over on it.. most people wouldn't admit that. As for con artists.... well im saying nothing ive been sold some shite also.

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Wow good luck homer it's a shame what's happened to that car the last time I saw welding like that was on a first year college students final project (he failed by the way) but all supras deserve to be saved will watch your build with great interest and looking forward to seeing it when finished :)

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I can assure everyone, no one is more pissed off than me about this. Some of the things Daryl pointed out to me made me ashamed of my ignorance. Some of the crap was on the shell before I got it admittedly. I was just too stupid to see it... The "hole" is one such thing. The boot is another.

 

The garage where the rest of the work was done is Bottisham Garage in cambridge, I will not comment on what I think of it as I'm staying neutral... for now. The two people were RobD from this forum and his boss Jon.

 

Tbh I didn't want to post anything but its riled me up again to see it all staring me in the face. I've had several professional garages tell me that this work isn't acceptable.

 

I was just living in ignorance asking for advice and not getting it. It's a shame this has all happened but the car couldn't be in a better place right now. I really thought id have that car for life!

 

Anyway to all those who think you know someone, think twice! There are many con artists about....

 

Maybe it is time to get it off your chest if that is how you are feeling, no point holding it in, especially if others could end up being in the same boat.

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Where do you draw the line? Not trusting anyone? As he was a long standing member....

 

It's an age old problem with cars. You talk to someone you assume knows what they're talking about, you think you're going to save a bit of money, it costs you a fortune in the long run.

 

I find it's always worth paying a bit more to get the result you want.

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Thanks for the well wishes gents, it was a cheap purchase even given the state of the car. This is a project and I'm absolutely not looking to do a quick fix and sell this one, it'll be a car I keep a long time provided I can get it all fixed and working.

 

The fact that the hole is rusty means it must have been ful of water... So maybe it was sitting outside with the bonnet off.. I'd be goung round and cleaning all the electrical connectors in the bay and WD40-ing them just to be sure. :)

 

It's certainly spent some time outside, not sure whether the bonnet is open, but while it's siiting on the slope on my drive water is washing into the hole with the bonnet closed. I know next to nothing about bodywork so will seek some advice how to keep this from causing a problem even if further welding is needed. For now though I'll clean the rust out and put some anti-corrosion paint on it until then.

 

Very nice,something to keep you busy. I would be changing the rear panel to get rid of the damage make it nice and straight again.

 

As above, I will leave what to do with this to the experts, the car needs some bodywork so my first priority is to get it running then get it to a specialist to tidy up the bodywork problems. I suspect the trial rear might have to come off and it possibly needs the rear panel replacing.

 

I can assure everyone, no one is more pissed off than me about this. Some of the things Daryl pointed out to me made me ashamed of my ignorance. Some of the crap was on the shell before I got it admittedly. I was just too stupid to see it... The "hole" is one such thing. The boot is another.

 

Just to make it clear to everyone (as I've had some PM's from others asking), there's no issue or dispute between Jason and myself. He sold the car and described it to the best of his knowledge. I knew it was a risk to buy it unseen and did expect issues (and to be fair Jason painted a worse picture of the electrics than there really is), so there's no dispute between us. I feel bad for Jason as he's sunk a lot of cash into this project and is coming out of it very much out of pocket. If anyone has benefitted from this whole thing it's me, I've got the shell I always wanted, albeit with a lot work than expected in some areas, less in others. Jason also offered money back once the extent of some issues started to come to light, which I refused. A deal is a deal and I wouldn't see him any more out of pocket. He's been a gentleman throughout.

 

The boot situation needs explaining, looks more like someone dropped a heavy weight on the rear structure rather than accident related damage, before the engine was installed perhaps someone tried putting it in the boot with the hatch off, it's just a suggestion. The trans tunnel looks like it was welded by a chimp, but reading Jason's reply, I guess that might not be too far fetched an idea.

 

My guess is something very heavy was placed in the boot then dropped, maybe a gearbox or similar. The damage is done now so I just need to get it fixed properly. And yes, that trans tunnel is laughable. The one in my current car was simply bolted in by myself, sealed and it was perfect to less than 1mm and extremely strong, no flex at all after 15k+miles. This one is 7mm out at the rear and that welding is a joke. The auto shifter doesn't line up because the auto plate has been warped by the poor quality welding work.

 

Hey Daryll, I am sure it's all fixable and looks much worse than it is. If you need a hand with anything don't hesitate to get in touch. as intimidating as it looks, with a wiring diagram, soldering iron, multi meter and heatshrink I am sure we could sort it.

 

Thanks Shane, much appreciated. I'm certain we'll get it running fairly soon and it's really not as intimidating or complex as the pictures may look. When the box install happens a spare set of hands is always helpful so I will hold you to that :) :thumbs:

 

It's an age old problem with cars. You talk to someone you assume knows what they're talking about, you think you're going to save a bit of money, it costs you a fortune in the long run.

 

I find it's always worth paying a bit more to get the result you want.

 

Absolutely. This is one reason I try and do as much as I can competently do myself, the bits that are beyond me I always go to the approved traders. For newer people it can be very hard to spot the real good ones from the wanna-be professionals or amateurs. Though this is not a thread to try and solve that issue...

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Some parts arrived today so managed to get a few things done, nothing major though...

 

1) Continued to strip the car back, removed most of the interior to check the wiring and clean up all the screws, bolts, and odds and ends left all over the place. Didn't find too many more issues with the loom, though several sections need small repairs. Nothing major though and it's just a few hours work needed with a soldering iron.

 

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2) The headling had been pulled out along with the visors, no idea why. Refitted this and did a quick check of the wiper loom to find a snipped wire. Quick repair on that done.

 

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3) New coil pack clips, breather hose and water temp socket arrived today. £85, ouch.

 

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This is all that was left of the coil pack clips and breather hose from the engine. Totally knackered, amazing this thing every ran like this!

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Handy tip here (I learnt from Ryan), over time the connectors themselves become a bit loose, stick a very small screwdriver down the back of it and prise the clips back up so they sit snugly to the coil pack. Left one is tightened up the other isn't. They were VERY loose on the connector before doing this.

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Fitted back, but the engine is in a real state. This work is only to get it fired up, it will need either entire new gaskets or a rebuild

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5) Pulled one of the coil pack pairs out, not good news, they need replacing too. The steel supports have rusted causing them to swell and split the coil pack housing. At around £90 each this will be expensive to replace, most have signs of splits.

 

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The spark plug wells were FULL of oil, the cam cover gaskets are leaking pretty much everywhere so also need to be replaced. On the plus side the spark plugs all look like they've been getting good spark.

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6) Took a better look at the trans tunnel swap, it's even worse that it first looked. I'll let the pictures do the talking... for those that can't spot what's wrong, only half the trans plate has been replaced, the front half of the manual tunnel is still there, it's been partially plated up but there's still a huge gap between the interior and the tunnel. Total bodge job and would never have worked.

 

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That's it for today. SPG is shipping the all-important fuel ECU loom tomorrow hopefully so I'm hoping that will be here by Saturday. Steve is dropping by to help and hopefully we can get her started up :)

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Wow just wow. That's the sort of workmanship that garage does....

 

Btw I paid for NEW coil pack clips that should have been fitted and new spark plugs ready for BPU which should have been fitted. Was told the engine was fine apart from the coil pack clips.... Another lie told I presume.

 

Will talk to you soon Daryl. All this information is really important! So thanks for going through it. Also you're doing a brilliant job!

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Thanks Jason, I'm just posting what I'm finding on the car and describing it as accurately as possible. I still think there's more hidden problems (the dash looms are in a state as well as the ignition system), but whether that's the work of the previous garage or was there before I don't know.

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