Benjy Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I would unhook them from that loom if it's affecting the indicator and use the sidelight loom and just have 1 set of sidelights. Indicators must not flash less than 60 times a minute, or more than 120 times a minute. So probably a failure, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_ufo Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I would unhook them from that loom if it's affecting the indicator and use the sidelight loom and just have 1 set of sidelights. Indicators must not flash less than 60 times a minute, or more than 120 times a minute. So probably a failure, yes. Ben it was doing that before I had wired anything in, Ill check all the bulbs physically. The wiring for the LED side lights defo came from the side light loom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Make sure you have 3 each side and the tell tales on the dash work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Front fog lights. Are these required for a pass on mot? I seem to recall only the rear is a requirement, but can't remember. Thinking of moving my indicators to the fog lights, and installing DRLs as side lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Only one fog light fitted to the offside rear of the car is required dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Sweet. So fronts aren't needed. Just what I wanted to hear Might try and fit the DRLs inside he facelift indicators, and move the indicators to the fog position. Is that legal/mot passable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 As long as they all work from the right switches and they're the right colour it should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elmo Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Hi, My drivers seat stopped working in November, I haven't yet been able to find a replacement. My MOT is due later this month, will it fail the MOT? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I'll have to check the manual, can't remember if this has been brought in or whether it's in the bits due to come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMMO-RH9 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Hi Ben. Can you clarify what is required for indicators on a car for MOT time. Obviously the front and rear need standard placements...but what about the side view of the car? The reason I ask is I have seen some cars with no indicators on the front arches and surely this is an MOT fail as you wouldn't be able to see the indication from the side view of the car. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s01000401.htm Lamps incorporating a side repeater are marked either with an ‘E’ mark in a circle or an ‘e’ mark in a rectangle above which is a number 5. However, some vehicles are fitted with a wraparound lens with no European approval markings. These can be tested by standing approximately 1000mm to the side of the vehicle’s rear bumper with the indicator on. If amber light can be seen coming through the front lens (not a reflection) this is acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Basically, you only have to have 2 indicators (each side) IF the front one is a wrap around lens. I.e. If the indicator faces the front AND side of the car. (Basically anything on the front corners) However, it must only flash between 60-120 times a minute. So just removing the side repeaters altogether is not acceptable. Also, if it has a side repeater, it has to be tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMMO-RH9 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Thanks for the help guys. So I am assuming that you cant see the supra indicators from the right places and you defo need side repeaters. Really wanted to remove the ones in the arches for a smooth look...but don't want any grief at MOT time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Thanks for the help guys. So I am assuming that you cant see the supra indicators from the right places and you defo need side repeaters. Really wanted to remove the ones in the arches for a smooth look...but don't want any grief at MOT time... Go Facelift? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMMO-RH9 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Go Facelift? sorry to sound stupid but what would i need to change and how would it help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Facelift indicators are on the side of the front bumper. Like this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMMO-RH9 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 brilliant - thanks for the clarification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOGIE Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 My Supra failed its MOT yesterday on 2 points (1 advisory also). Can anyone throw some light on the matter as im unsure if im being takin for a fool. I can be quite a short tempered c**t when someone takes the piss so im getting my facts right before i confront my MOT man. Reasons for refusal 001 Offside headlamp aim too high [1.8] (im not bothered about this as its a 2 second fix) 002 Exhaust noise is clearly in excess of that emitted by a similar vehicle fitted with a standard silencer in average condition.[7.1.4] I have an Ebay special exhaust (3" single box with 3" 2nd decatt) 1st catt is still in. Cheers in advance for any advice guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveR Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Seems a bit spurious but I guess it depends on the 'anality' of the tester. 2nd opinion time I reckon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I took my car for a re-test on Saturday, while I was there I had a chat with the guy who owns the place, he's been doing my MOT's for 12 years, so he knows me and my car quite well. I asked him about exhaust noise, he said that their aren't any strict guidlines regards exhaust db, he said the MOT testers use their own discretian, they have to consider if the exhaust is in keeping with the car, if someone has fitted a badboy exhaust to a Corsa then is will most likely fail, however if is a Supra or similar they would probably pass it providing the volume isn't "excessively" loud. Also, with regards to de-cats, he said they could fail the exhaust on the basis that it is "incomplete", as it deviates too far from the original system fitted at the factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Is it clearly louder than a similar car with a standard system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 If a car even passes the emissions with de-cats then your bloody lucky, with regards to noise its all down to the tester but you will usually find they are jealous. I have been testing a year now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 My Supra failed its MOT yesterday on 2 points (1 advisory also). Can anyone throw some light on the matter as im unsure if im being takin for a fool. I can be quite a short tempered c**t when someone takes the piss so im getting my facts right before i confront my MOT man. Reasons for refusal 001 Offside headlamp aim too high [1.8] (im not bothered about this as its a 2 second fix) 002 Exhaust noise is clearly in excess of that emitted by a similar vehicle fitted with a standard silencer in average condition.[7.1.4] I have an Ebay special exhaust (3" single box with 3" 2nd decatt) 1st catt is still in. Cheers in advance for any advice guys. Headlight aim/adjustment the only item a tester can adjust/touch to get the car through a test, sounds like the bloke is an idiot as your car obviously never failed on nothing else up till the emmissions test... so being picky. Noise limits dont even come into a test unless ridiculously loud ect.,, but thats testers discretion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOGIE Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Headlight aim/adjustment the only item a tester can adjust/touch to get the car through a test, sounds like the bloke is an idiot as your car obviously never failed on nothing else up till the emmissions test... so being picky. Noise limits dont even come into a test unless ridiculously loud ect.,, but thats testers discretion No mate it passed emissions, he just said its too loud. It is clearly louder than a similar car with a standard system. To make matters worse the same tester passed it last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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