The day the immigrants left...

[Konrad]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00r3qyw/The_Day_the_Immigrants_Left/

 

Who did see it? What is your opinion about it? It's a shame they had to work only 2 days, but seems that for half of those guys it was still too long lol

[imi]

Just watching it now on iplayer...

 

whats up with the guy that insists on calling Uri Bill........what an idiot.

[Dragonball]

As expected - Just showed what a lazy, benefit grabbing, predudiced bunch of tossers the UK lot were!

 

Go to school or work...?

 

or the army...?

[imi]

Really not sure why they are entitled to any benefits as they are perfectly capable of working. such a waste of money and space....

[michael]

I was shouting at the TV quite a bit but with these things it's never really a fair average of society they pick to do such things (or am I blind to the average these days?) - the BBC obviously had a point to make and used some of the many workshy "brits" to do this but I think it helped raise some valid points.

 

Fair play to those who work hard for their money and just get on and do the job to the best of their abilities, you can't blame employers for choosing them over lazy people who just want to moan and express how hard done to they are.

 

I've no doubt there are plenty of people from the UK who would be willing to put in a decent days work like the immigrants, they are the ones who probably have jobs already though. On the flip-side there are probably plenty of immigrants who just want to stay home in the council house they have demanded so they can watch their big TV and play on their PS3.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1253151/Somali-woman-claim-benefits-burden-social-assistance-landmark-EU-ruling.html

 

Some people are knobheads, some people aren't - that's the thing with humans, the problem is we are only fed info to suit the adgenda of the media organisation involved, things can be twisted to suit.

[marbleapple]

I was shouting at the TV quite a bit but with these things it's never really a fair average of society they pick to do such things (or am I blind to the average these days?) - the BBC obviously had a point to make and used some of the many workshy "brits" to do this but I think it helped raise some valid points.

 

Fair play to those who work hard for their money and just get on and do the job to the best of their abilities, you can't blame employers for choosing them over lazy people who just want to moan and express how hard done to they are.

 

I've no doubt there are plenty of people from the UK who would be willing to put in a decent days work like the immigrants, they are the ones who probably have jobs already though. On the flip-side there are probably plenty of immigrants who just want to stay home in the council house they have demanded so they can watch their big TV and play on their PS3.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1253151/Somali-woman-claim-benefits-burden-social-assistance-landmark-EU-ruling.html

 

Some people are knobheads, some people aren't - that's the thing with humans, the problem is we are only fed info to suit the adgenda of the media organisation involved, things can be twisted to suit.

 

I was going to post my own opinion but it appears you stole it and posted it up here

[Swampy442]

Ive got no problem with immigrants, they do the jobs I dont want to do, this story was covered last year when BBC news approached unemployed people to do jobs like picking veg etc and the answer generally was "no Im not doing that".

But what annoys me is like Michael says, they just sit about on our money. Im from Lincoln and in general they just sit about on door steps and benches getting drunk, abusing people and driving about.

[colsoop]

Thats the problem with our current system. The fact that somebody can say "im not doing that" and still receive their benefits.

[AndrewOW]

The immigrants were prepared to relocate to a foreign country for work. I can't see many lazy Brits relocating within their own country to where the work is, as they are 'happy' to stay in their own communities etc. Maybe I'm wrong, as I didn't watch the programme, but it was the first thing that came to mind.

[stevie_b]

As Michael said. I'm also wary that the people they picked were picked because they make for good TV viewing, rather than being indicative of the wider population.

 

I wasn't expecting the Brits to do as well as the immigrants in the jobs.. but then the farmer employer chap said that they should be up to speed within about 3-4 hours of starting the job. I can believe that picking the asparagus is back-breaking work, especially if you're not used to it. I'd like to think I could put in 2 days of fast picking, but I doubt I'd be able to move unassisted for a couple of days after that.

 

The curry house chap had a harder time. A lot of British young men have a grumpy demeanour, and "don't speak proppa, like", and that makes front-of-house work very tricky. But fair play to him, he seemed to really want to give it a fair crack.

 

The programme could have been much worse (read biased) than it was, so well done to the producers for that.

[Matt H]

Thats the problem with our current system. The fact that somebody can say "im not doing that" and still receive their benefits.

 

I guess it's were you draw the line.

 

If I fell out of my career, I'd certainly go and work at McDonalds or something demeaning like that to get me by, but I wouldn't want to go and pick spuds or veg all day either.

 

I think the real issue is what happens if we stop giving all the losers their benefits. Would we be better off? Probably not, because then you have a mass of people with no homes and no money.

 

It’s a catch 22 situation. Heads we lose, tails we lose.

 

You can't make people work, but if you don't give them hand outs then they'll take them in another way.

[supra_aero]

As Michael said. I'm also wary that the people they picked were picked because they make for good TV viewing, rather than being indicative of the wider population.

 

I wasn't expecting the Brits to do as well as the immigrants in the jobs.. but then the farmer employer chap said that they should be up to speed within about 3-4 hours of starting the job. I can believe that picking the asparagus is back-breaking work, especially if you're not used to it. I'd like to think I could put in 2 days of fast picking, but I doubt I'd be able to move unassisted for a couple of days after that.

 

The curry house chap had a harder time. A lot of British young men have a grumpy demeanour, and "don't speak proppa, like", and that makes front-of-house work very tricky. But fair play to him, he seemed to really want to give it a fair crack.

 

The programme could have been much worse (read biased) than it was, so well done to the producers for that.

 

Agreed.

 

Was kinda shocked 3 of the 4 curry employees didn't show. That's really bad.

 

"Both had food poisoning" ..yeh right

 

And the joker texting in at midnight - " I won't be able to come in , just got home"

 

lol joker.

[Konrad]

To be honest, potato factory or indian restaurant wasn't that bad to work in. Farm - I think my back would give up on this one.

Building job was superb, I can't believe that in a town with such high unemployment level landlord couldn't find person who is willing to work for 150 pounds a DAY!

Going back to farm - if someone made a record by gathering 500 kg, how it shows ADHD bloke who got 36 kg a day?

Main thing tho is - these people KNEW what is this programme all about, they just had to prove for 2 days, that Brits are capable of working like any immigrants and... they still failed miserably. If I would be british and one of them would be my relative, I would personally flog him to near death for an embarassment he done to me and my country.

[ivan]

I bought a bird feeder.. I hung it on my patio and filled it lovingly with seed.

 

It was indeed a beautiful bird feeder.

 

Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.

 

But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.

 

Then came the bird mess. It was everywhere; on the patio tiles, the chairs, the table ... everywhere!

 

Then some of the birds turned mean. They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket.

 

Even the native birds were boisterous and loud. They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.

 

After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore. So I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone. I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built all over the patio.

 

Soon, the back yard was like it used to be ... quiet, serene and no one demanding their rights to a free meal...

 

 

 

Now let's see ......

 

Our government give out free food, subsidised housing, free medical care, and free education and allows anyone born here to be an automatic citizen.

 

Suddenly our taxes went up to pay for the free services; small flats are housing 5 or more families;

 

You have to wait 6 hours to be seen by a doctor in an emergency surgery because it is filled with non tax payers;

 

Your child's year 12 class is behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak English.

 

I have to 'press one' to hear my bank talk to me in English.

 

 

 

Maybe, just maybe, it's time for the government to take down the damn bird feeder.

[Thorin]

Bloody immigrants, coming over here, posting on our forums...

 

Trouble causers, the lot of em.

 

 

 

 

[Konrad]

...story about feeder...

 

Have you seen the story or is it just random rant? Unless those birds you are talking about was british ones (it would fit story quite well)

There was an interview with school head teacher, who said that standards of her school didn't dropped a bit after 2004 and her school still got mark "Good" over a years.

Ironically, there was also explanation about NHS system and host clearly stated that immigrants are NOT burden to NHS as most of them are young, fit and came here to work, not to loose income on sick. Only burden for NHS could be those infamous 4 who caught mysterious bug, which did not allow them to turn up to work at first day lmao

 

@Thorin

[Tannhauser]

I almost didn't watch it, because I thought that it was bound to be set up with only one outcome in mind. However, I thought it seemed pretty even-handed in its treatment of all parties. We will never know about the selection procedures, I guess, but I thought there was a comment near the beginning implying that they hadn't found it that easy to get volunteers? And everyone they picked talked a good game at the start, about how they really wanted to work.

 

I wasn't so surprised that they did badly on some tasks. It can't be easy to adapt after a long period of time out of work. What did amaze me was how several of the people on there couldn't seem to cope with the slightest pressure or criticism without having to flounce off for a fag.

[Tannhauser]

Also: that restaurant owner! He had given his own staff time off, then two of the three Brits didn't show up. The gym-bunny bloke was struggling because he was illiterate, but ffs, he could at least finished his shift.

 

And the owner still gave him a curry.

[Paul]

LMFAO

 

All us Brits are a lazy bunch of b*stards

'If' they are so good at picking vegetables then why not grow the stuff in Poland and save on the fare to come here?

You need dirt and some seeds, that's all

[Tannhauser]

'If' they are so good at picking vegetables then why not grow the stuff in Poland and save on the fare to come here?

You need dirt and some seeds, that's all

 

Ooh, I know, I've got it. Is it because the wages and standard of living are higher over here?

 

There was a really interesting comment from the asparagus farmer. He said that he started employing migrant workers because he was finding it difficult to get workers. The presenter then said that he wanted to be absolutely clear on the point: the labour shortage came before the migrants were employed. Farmer then confirmed that that was the case.

[Paul]

Ooh, I know, I've got it. Is it because the wages and standard of living are higher over here?

 

Yeah but why?

If they are such a hard working nation and we are such a bunch of lazy b*stards then why is (or was) our country so much better to live in ? they don't come here for the climate

[Tannhauser]

Yeah but why?

If they are such a hard working nation and we are such a bunch of lazy b*stards then why is (or was) our country so much better to live in ? they don't come here for the climate

 

I could answer that question, but posts about the economic recovery of former Soviet satellite states are now chargeable at £40 each.

[Paul]

I could answer that question, but posts about the economic recovery of former Soviet satellite states are now chargeable at £40 each.

 

Spare me that anyway mate

With such a good work ethic surely they could have turned it around by now though

[imi]

To be honest, potato factory or indian restaurant wasn't that bad to work in. Farm - I think my back would give up on this one.

Building job was superb, I can't believe that in a town with such high unemployment level landlord couldn't find person who is willing to work for 150 pounds a DAY!

Going back to farm - if someone made a record by gathering 500 kg, how it shows ADHD bloke who got 36 kg a day?

Main thing tho is - these people KNEW what is this programme all about, they just had to prove for 2 days, that Brits are capable of working like any immigrants and... they still failed miserably. If I would be british and one of them would be my relative, I would personally flog him to near death for an embarassment he done to me and my country.

 

couldn't agree more

[Paul]

couldn't agree more