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Triple Supra OEM Denso billet fuel pump hanger! Finally right??
cowboy bebop replied to cowboy bebop's topic in Supra Chat
I work very closely with MVP Motorsports. I really don't see that being a problem, sending the fuel pumps with the hanger, let me talk with Dusty about it so we're all on the same page. Thanks! Eric -
Triple Supra OEM Denso billet fuel pump hanger! Finally right??
cowboy bebop replied to cowboy bebop's topic in Supra Chat
You've got some good points there Homer. Eric -
Triple Supra OEM Denso billet fuel pump hanger! Finally right??
cowboy bebop replied to cowboy bebop's topic in Supra Chat
Here's a good quote from Ken Henderson, one of the most respected US members, It's only a post on the net, but he does bring up some good points, Thanks! Eric -
Triple Supra OEM Denso billet fuel pump hanger! Finally right??
cowboy bebop replied to cowboy bebop's topic in Supra Chat
Can do Homer, from now on they'll be known as stock export spec. The Bosch 044 pumps are catching on as well. They're massive like the stock export spec pumps, so fitting can be rather tricky. Thanks! Eric -
Triple Supra OEM Denso billet fuel pump hanger! Finally right??
cowboy bebop replied to cowboy bebop's topic in Supra Chat
1.9 inches ~48mm. Thanks ! Eric -
Triple Supra OEM Denso billet fuel pump hanger! Finally right??
cowboy bebop replied to cowboy bebop's topic in Supra Chat
What would you like to know man? Denso's have more flow and much better track record reliability. In short if a Supra owner is to the point where he's using multiple in tank pumps, why risk a pump faultering and quite possibly grenade the motor? Why not just run multiple OEM pumps, and be safe about it? Thanks! Eric -
Triple Supra OEM Denso billet fuel pump hanger! Finally right??
cowboy bebop replied to cowboy bebop's topic in Supra Chat
There's many reports of Walbro's dying here in the states. I had three in tank pumps in my white Supra, and they were on the way out. They got very loud towards the end. There have been reports of Supra powering down the track when one of the three pumps quit, and the reult was the motor blew out. So far, I can't find any reports of the stock pump failing. That only covers the reliability issue. The other side of the coin is the fact that the stock pumps flow more than the Walbros at a given voltage. Thanks! Eric -
Triple Supra OEM Denso billet fuel pump hanger! Finally right??
cowboy bebop replied to cowboy bebop's topic in Supra Chat
The Walbro's don't fit in these cups as the Walbros' was too small. The US Spec OEM Densos are very large in comparison. Brand new the US spec OEM Denso's can run ~125GBP per give or take. I got mine for 62.5GBP becuase I got lucky. As I was telling the US guys, there's been people who've killed the Walbros at the WORST possible time, and lost a motor over it. Check the two threads in the first post, and you guys can see that its' not all the uncommon for the Walbros to quit working. I very much consider the OEM Supra Denso pumps to be cheap insurance. Thanks ! Eric -
Triple Supra OEM Denso billet fuel pump hanger! Finally right??
cowboy bebop replied to cowboy bebop's topic in Supra Chat
Definitely an upgrade though. With all of the Walbros that folks went insane over in teh past years, somewhere there's a mountain of the OEM Denso pumps. I remember friends of mine would just give them away. They didn't know what they had. Thanks! Eric -
Triple Supra OEM Denso billet fuel pump hanger! Finally right??
cowboy bebop replied to cowboy bebop's topic in Supra Chat
Every owner should have at least one OEM pump handy People give those pumps away. Thanks Gaz! Eric -
Triple Supra OEM Denso billet fuel pump hanger! Finally right??
cowboy bebop replied to cowboy bebop's topic in Supra Chat
It's the same pricing as there's no appreciable difference between a dual and a triple. Just one less pump in the tank and the extra port blocked off. The pumps that these are being made for are an OEM Supra pump so everyone should have at least one handy The OEM Supra pumps are large compared to the Walbros, however the Supra pumps flow more than the Walbros, and also have a great reliability record. I'm having a hard time finding where an OEM pump has dies due to heavy use. The track record of Walbros is sketchy from the testimonials we've read. Since it's an OEM pump, I would gather it being quieter than a Walbro but it's hard to say. Thanks! Eric -
Well gents, we've cracked the code on the OEM Denso triple pump hangers. With some creative thinking and some special fittings, we've found the way to give the community what it wants and what I very much believe that it needs. If anyone has ever fit the OEM Denso's into the MKIV Supra, they'll know that the MKIV tank entance and slosh tray are rather small. We've worked hard to configure a way to fit the three larger OEM Supra pumps into the MKIV tank, and through CAD and exact measurement we've come up with the solution. Our billet hangers feature: T6 6061 construction Exact fit to the OEM tank Fittings supplied with each hanger Special sealing connector to accomodate the extra wiring All applicable hardware Area for grounds, and fuel level sensor Custom Supra OEM fuel pump triple cup Grooved posts giving a no slip grip to the fuel lines There has been a recent surge back to the OEM Supra pumps over the Walbro pumps in that the Supra pumps are reported to actually flow more than the Walbro (290L/hr vs. 255L/hr). Also the history of the in tank Walbros in the Supra world has been sketchy; even my old ones bame noisy and were on the way out. The OEM Supra pump RARELY fails. So what we have is higher flow w/ OEM reliability. Here is some info on the OEM Supra Denso pump courtesy of MKIV.com Toyota Supra Turbo Denso 195130-1020 Toyota 23221-46110 260 lph @ 43 psi; 220 lph @ 58 psi; @ 12 V 1. 290 lph @ 43 psi; 266 lph @ 58 psi @ 13.5 V 2. 290 lph @ 43 psi; 260 lph @ 58 psi; @ 14 V 1. Physical size of the Supra pump, you guys can understand that it's a larger in tank pump and that it takes bit on creative thinking to fit three in the tank and slosh tray without trimming. The pump hanger below is an example of our work. We've made this hanger for the 3rd gen Viper and on it can be seen the supplied fittings, grooved no-slip posts, and special fuel resistant sealed connector. The Triple OEM Supra Denso hanger will be very similar in construction with the same ultra high quality. As an introductary pre buy price, we're ready to release these at a world beating $435.00 per hanger. Test fit, and ready to roll out. You guys know that the USD is falling fast, and the GBP is stronger than ever, so the exchange rate is very favorable. We'd like to see at least 8 people in on the prebuy so that we may kick off production. Once on the list, please call MVP Motorsports at 940-683-8282 to confirm, or PM V8 Killer here on the forums. Sign up here: 1. Ken Henderson - Does not have an order with MVP yet 2. Gadfly 3. Tywash 4. Toyota Terrorist 5. XCELR8 6. Mr-B94TTsupra - Does not have an order with MVP yet 7. ISIS 8. Bolarbag (UK) - Does not have an order with MVP yet 9. Mrbil84 10. Reaper (AU) 11. Customer from AZ (not on SF) 12. yiros (AU) 13. SUPRASTITIOUS 14. suprahtt- Does not have an order with MVP yet 15. TT_6SPD_95 - Does not have an order with MVP yet 16. franksupra - Does not have an order with MVP yet 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. EDIT: We can supply the US export spec OEM Desno pumps with the hangers without a problem. The cost for each pump is a very reasonable 125gbp per. Just let either myself or V8 Killer know, and we can make a note of it on your reservation. Just for reference the reservation link has been put up. Thanks gents!! :) http://www.mvpmotorsports.com/Templates/frmTemplateM7.asp?SubFolderID=206 Eric
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Thanks gents! Eric
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It's defintiely not cheap, however with the dollars value being garbage compared to the GBP, it makes the cost easier to swallow. I have a complete cost breakdown available already. Thanks! Eric
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At current exchange rates, you might be able to get a complete built motor and turbo kit of out of it. Thanks, and thanks to all the gents with the kind words and inspiration! Eric
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The Do Lucks aren't available, at least not to the US guys anyway, Folks have been on wait times of as much as 8 months. Regardless I'll put these head to head against the Do Luck's anyday. These are real support braces whereas the Do Luck's design isn't nearly as stout. Thanks! Eric
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Same ones, http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?p=1836232#post1836232 Thanks again! Eric
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What it's going to do sir is to all but eliminate body twist. Have you ever put your finger on the seam between the targa and the body and felt it dancing around? That's body twist. Take the targa off, and the car squeaks and rattles like and old Chevy. These wrok to eliminate that. Thanks ! Eric
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Just in. Your Supra a wet dish rag like mine? Stiffen it up. Eric
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Wheels just in from the powdercoater. Eric
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Thanks gents, it's been a long road to get it where it is now, ready to assemble. If I'd have stuck with my old white car, I have had it on the road running by now, however the white car is no where near the level of this widebody, so patience pays off. Eric
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It's actually wrapped in all one piece, believe it or not. There's some stretching going on. Eric
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It's all chrome It takes about 10 mintues to clean whereas a polished alloy takes all afternoon. Thanks! Eric
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The good news is that the widebody should be here by this week. It actually should be have been in paint by Saturday. The fit and finish are perfect, and given who's doing it the paint should be phenominal. After it arrives, it's one big tinker toy set Eric