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OH dear!!

1/when not in use you are carrying around the extra weight of compressor motor and batteries

2/the compressor is a centrifugal compressor these require very fast rotational speeds to provide boost -leading to

3/ a motor capable of both high start torque and high speeds(a compound motor) DC as its battery driven ,so as low voltage it must have high ampereage (power = voltsxamps) this leads to massive heat losses and the motor must be huge

4/ the batteries must also be huge/heavy to supply the large power requirement,as must the cables

5/ is this charger to be in line with the current intake ?,ie the intake air passes through the charger when it is not being spun up

this just makes it an obstruction to air flow when not in use,reducing power!!!

6/ if it is fitted in parallel to the standard air intake as an "extra"intake source then a check valve must be fitted to stop the charged air simply blowing out the intake,how is that to be controlled?

7/ what happens to the excess boosted air (should it actually work) when you come off the throttle and the charger is still running?

8/they quote over 450 cfm air flow,(good for about 300 bhp),how did they get this figure? was it flowing air into a restriction ie an engine or free flow to atmosphere? boost pressure takes energy and a lot of it, 40-60 bhp off the crank is not unusual for a charger,imagine an electric motor/battery that can produce 60bhp!!

9/I guess this brilliant idea was beyond the the thinking of the motor industry for over 100 years

10/ Ive got some AAA batteries strapped to a hair drier,good for 50 bhp,as tested by the automobile association of Cambodia,yours for the bargain price of £99.99,buy now before the xmas rush!!! it also improves mileage by 40% ,it is aslo eco friendly being made by a small indian tribe in south america---

website under construction www.

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OH dear!!

1/when not in use you are carrying around the extra weight of compressor motor and batteries

2/the compressor is a centrifugal compressor these require very fast rotational speeds to provide boost -leading to

3/ a motor capable of both high start torque and high speeds(a compound motor) DC as its battery driven ,so as low voltage it must have high ampereage (power = voltsxamps) this leads to massive heat losses and the motor must be huge

4/ the batteries must also be huge/heavy to supply the large power requirement,as must the cables

5/ is this charger to be in line with the current intake ?,ie the intake air passes through the charger when it is not being spun up

this just makes it an obstruction to air flow when not in use,reducing power!!!

6/ if it is fitted in parallel to the standard air intake as an "extra"intake source then a check valve must be fitted to stop the charged air simply blowing out the intake,how is that to be controlled?

7/ what happens to the excess boosted air (should it actually work) when you come off the throttle and the charger is still running?

8/they quote over 450 cfm air flow,(good for about 300 bhp),how did they get this figure? was it flowing air into a restriction ie an engine or free flow to atmosphere? boost pressure takes energy and a lot of it, 40-60 bhp off the crank is not unusual for a charger,imagine an electric motor/battery that can produce 60bhp!!

9/I guess this brilliant idea was beyond the the thinking of the motor industry for over 100 years

10/ Ive got some AAA batteries strapped to a hair drier,good for 50 bhp,as tested by the automobile association of Cambodia,yours for the bargain price of £99.99,buy now before the xmas rush!!! it also improves mileage by 40% ,it is aslo eco friendly being made by a small indian tribe in south america---

website under construction www.

 

 

LOL:d so what ur saying is u dont think it will work?;)

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OH dear!!

1/when not in use you are carrying around the extra weight of compressor motor and batteries

2/the compressor is a centrifugal compressor these require very fast rotational speeds to provide boost -leading to

3/ a motor capable of both high start torque and high speeds(a compound motor) DC as its battery driven ,so as low voltage it must have high ampereage (power = voltsxamps) this leads to massive heat losses and the motor must be huge

4/ the batteries must also be huge/heavy to supply the large power requirement,as must the cables

5/ is this charger to be in line with the current intake ?,ie the intake air passes through the charger when it is not being spun up

this just makes it an obstruction to air flow when not in use,reducing power!!!

6/ if it is fitted in parallel to the standard air intake as an "extra"intake source then a check valve must be fitted to stop the charged air simply blowing out the intake,how is that to be controlled?

7/ what happens to the excess boosted air (should it actually work) when you come off the throttle and the charger is still running?

8/they quote over 450 cfm air flow,(good for about 300 bhp),how did they get this figure? was it flowing air into a restriction ie an engine or free flow to atmosphere? boost pressure takes energy and a lot of it, 40-60 bhp off the crank is not unusual for a charger,imagine an electric motor/battery that can produce 60bhp!!

9/I guess this brilliant idea was beyond the the thinking of the motor industry for over 100 years

10/ Ive got some AAA batteries strapped to a hair drier,good for 50 bhp,as tested by the automobile association of Cambodia,yours for the bargain price of £99.99,buy now before the xmas rush!!! it also improves mileage by 40% ,it is aslo eco friendly being made by a small indian tribe in south america---

website under construction www.

 

On the other hand the Visteon VTES is an electric supercharger that does do what it says on the tin. Its a complete module, though, with all the control electronics built in so its not exactly a bolt-on goodie.

 

Looks like these guys have had a bash at copying it.

 

Click

...and click

 

Unfortunately it seems to have been all but overlooked in favour of "mild hybrid" technology (electric motor torque assist for launch and acceleration).

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