Geo Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Right so we all know that the 6 speed manual gear box is a bit clunky, is there anyway to make it smoother?? Or do us manual owners just have to put up with it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk-rich Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 do you have the correct oil in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 do you have the correct oil in there Yup, everything was done by ENVY mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 They are a bit clunky, but some are smoother than others. I suspect a lot has to do with the past life of the box. If you want to make it feel smoother, simply get a longer gear knob! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 They are a bit clunky, but some are smoother than others. I suspect a lot has to do with the past life of the box. If you want to make it feel smoother, simply get a longer gear knob! sweet, will try that mate. nice one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk-rich Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 i have a kwik shift kit on mine, still feels pretty smooth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockys96 Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 i can get a bit of clunkyness driving in to my driveway on the clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 They are a bit clunky, but some are smoother than others. I suspect a lot has to do with the past life of the box. If you want to make it feel smoother, simply get a longer gear knob! Or a heavier knob, that will make it feel smoother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Or a heavier knob, that will make it feel smoother. Thats works too, though the stock one is one the heaviest around. Stay away from quick shifts, aweful bits of kit and even the top range ones wear out very quick. A worn B&M short shift kit caused a huge amount of damage to my box which cost a considerble amount to fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Thats works too, though the stock one is one the heaviest around. Stay away from quick shifts, aweful bits of kit and even the top range ones wear out very quick. A worn B&M short shift kit caused a huge amount of damage to my box which cost a considerble amount to fix. wow, most other car forums you go on love the short shift kits, guess they dont work on the supe. What is the stock knob made out of, is it plastic underneath and leather outer, i was thinking along the lines of a heavy metal/chrome knob. Anyone got the weight of the stock knob? I fitted a whalen shift knob on my previous car and it made such a difference to the gearbox, so much easier to change gear! That weighed 18ounces! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Might just have been the B&M kit on my car, but it certainly made the gearchange more clunky, even when it was new. The throw is shorter, granted. The stock one is made of steel, I guess its cast as it's solid. It weights more than twice that of the Veilside one I have on the bookshelf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 The stock one is made of steel, I guess its cast as it's solid. It weights more than twice that of the Veilside one I have on the bookshelf. Sounds like it was designed already with the gearbox in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 glad the box is clunky, sounds like a lambo when you change gears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Thats works too, though the stock one is one the heaviest around. Stay away from quick shifts, aweful bits of kit and even the top range ones wear out very quick. A worn B&M short shift kit caused a huge amount of damage to my box which cost a considerble amount to fix. What parts did it damage and how long did it take? What sort of ££ did it cost to fix? I may have to whip off my B&M short shift! The stock gear lever is dampened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 It hard to describe, but basically the shifter is very slightly too short. When the mechansim that connects the shifter to the shaft wears it causes it to rub against the mounting flange. This in turn causes the selctor shaft to move slightly up and down and causes wear on the remote seal. After 2 years of mis diagnosis it ended up with numerous oil seal replacements and eventually the replacement of the entire mechanism (£175, plus £95 labour). However the constant loss of oil has destroyed the syncro and the gearbox needs a rebuild. So far I have spent nealr £1k over the last 2-3 years trying to diagnose the problem, but now face a further £1k+ rebuild... all caused by a worn short shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 It hard to describe, but basically the shifter is very slightly too short. When the mechansim that connects the shifter to the shaft wears it causes it to rub against the mounting flange. This in turn causes the selctor shaft to move slightly up and down and causes wear on the remote seal. After 2 years of mis diagnosis it ended up with numerous oil seal replacements and eventually the replacement of the entire mechanism (£175, plus £95 labour). However the constant loss of oil has destroyed the syncro and the gearbox needs a rebuild. So far I have spent nealr £1k over the last 2-3 years trying to diagnose the problem, but now face a further £1k+ rebuild... all caused by a worn short shift. Thanks Darryl, Bloody hell mate! I think I will stick my original shifter back on! Cheers, Ro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Thanks Darryl, Bloody hell mate! I think I will stick my original shifter back on! Cheers, Ro Not sure it's necessary to bin in until it starts to feel heavy or notchy, thats when problems might start to show. I thought the problems were solved with the entire shifter replacement, but that was knocked on the head when How_Supra drove it and couldn't manage a single downshift (she wasn't strong enough ). Only then did I realise its still f*cked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Not sure it's necessary to bin in until it starts to feel heavy or notchy, thats when problems might start to show. I thought the problems were solved with the entire shifter replacement, but that was knocked on the head when How_Supra drove it and couldn't manage a single downshift (she wasn't strong enough ). Only then did I realise its still f*cked! I'll try and get Sabrina to test my car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how_supra Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 LOL Official 6 speed test driver has a nice ring to it. I felt a bit stupid I really could not get it in gear. On the plus side after driving Daryls', it made my gear box feel really smooth [i thought it was clunky before]. I am now enlightened to the error of my ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprasteve Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 LOL Official 6 speed test driver has a nice ring to it. I felt a bit stupid I really could not get it in gear. how much do you charge, mine could do with a once over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Right so we all know that the 6 speed manual gear box is a bit clunky, is there anyway to make it smoother?? Or do us manual owners just have to put up with it?? And I thought the six speeds were perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 And I thought the six speeds were perfect! Far from it... Too many gears! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Far from it... Too many gears! Clunky..too many gears and a doesn't like to be rushed between gears... What a combination! All in jest of course!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 My six speed is very nice, it can be a little clonky especially when cold but it is positive and when you are used to it, it shifts gears very quickly. My car has 93k. I had the clutch and flywheel replaced at 76k and that helped improve it even more. I wonder if the one you saw didn't really have the right oil or have said oil up to temperature or maybe cclutch or flywheel were on their way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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