Guest samcoombes Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 Hey everyone I'm new to Supra ownership, so take it easy on me! I've just bought a standard 1994 NA Supra, and love it to bits. What bhp are these cars as standard? I was wondering what else could be done engine wise to push the power up a bit - and pelase don't tell me to buy a TT - can't justify the insurance I used to have a 1995 BMW 323, and with this, i was able to add induction kit and BBTB to gain a it more power, along with a different manifold and remap. Are things like this available for the Supra? What am I looking at price wise? I'd also like a decent exhaust - which is best? Something that may add a little power, look good, and sound nice (not like a boyracer) Thanks in advance for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 Hi and welcome to the club, in answer to your question, when the Supe left the factory in 1994 it was probably pushing out 220bhp, now after 12 years you are looking at about 200bhp. You can decat and put on an aftermarket exhaust, induction kit (Apexi is the best of the bunch, or an after market filter fo your stock box) this will probably release 10 to 12bhp all together. You cannot chip the NA, despite what anyone else says. Martin at MkIV stores has a header for the NA which he did a RR test on and that gave another 9bhp. Unless you want to spend massive amounts on the car that is probably the most you will get. Uprating the suspension, for better handling and swapping the JSpec brakes for the UK setup which is bigger and also means you can brake later into the corner is also something to consider. On choice of exhaust, there are so many to choose from, I have the RSR which is quiet around town but VERY loud when its WOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest samcoombes Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 thanks for the reply mate. Where is the best place to look for RSR Exhaust pricing? do you have any pics of yours by any chance? Also the Apexi filters - can you get the mushroom shaped ones? again, where would be a good place to look? Just about toe visit http://www.mkivstore.com, which I believe is highly recommended on this site...? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mk47 Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 thanks for the reply mate. Where is the best place to look for RSR Exhaust pricing? do you have any pics of yours by any chance? Also the Apexi filters - can you get the mushroom shaped ones? again, where would be a good place to look? Just about toe visit http://www.mkivstore.com, which I believe is highly recommended on this site...? Thanks RSRs are pretty good also another one which id reccomend to you is the miami gt stainless one, which is just £300 and just as good imo, sound very nice and also have good ground clearance which is always a good thing. the mushroom filters are the hks and theyre pretty much a no go zone as theyre the crappyest of the lot! most people reccomend the apexi induction, ive got the blitz sus though and thats very good too. so a few options for you there check out http://www.miami-gt.co.uk and http://www.envyperformance.com they are highly reccomended also, and very helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 i would only go for the RS*R on your n/a if you want a really loud exhaust....especially if you're thinking of de-catting in the future as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JODY T Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 NA Tuning.... We have some development on this Funnily enough, to get power the first thing you should do is give the car a full service! sounds silly but it really does make a difference... I have added BPU parts to mine (Walbro pump, Denso Iridiums, Decat, Cat Back exhaust, K&N Panel filter) to a freshly sercviced motor.. The difference is very noticeable.... Obviously these parts have been done time and time again but next week i will be fitting a new manifold and a set of developmental MKivStore cams... Dave (RR guru) and Jason (ex WRC engine builder) have designed these and the forecast/projection of the performance is looking good... I have no doubt they will be fine tuned once the car gets on the rollers for optimum performance, but i think we are going for useable torque not out and out power gains.... We should have some graghs for you lot in the next few weeks and i will be videoing the runs for all of you that dont believe in Internet figures.... We are hoping to be able to offer a kind of BPU package or Stage 1/2/3 type packages for you over the next few months... Mine will be the first and I can wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaf Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 go for a 100shot of nos if you want more power.... i would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JODY T Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 go for a 100shot of nos if you want more power.... i would or that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookci Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 whats the estimated gains/costs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 sounds good Jody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookci Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 after playing with other cars on the road my car is much quicker than it used to be. prior to fiddling with it i got slightly outdone on numerous occasions by a megane 225 (theres someone that lives round here with one). Now mine is slightly quicker than his Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supradan Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 I know you said dont say go for a tt because of insurance but i have just changed from na to tt and my insurance went up by £37 a year. If you found a uk tt it would prob go down!! Unless you want to spend a fortune you wont really get that much more power from an na:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSZ Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 NA Tuning.... We have some development on this Funnily enough, to get power the first thing you should do is give the car a full service! sounds silly but it really does make a difference... I have added BPU parts to mine (Walbro pump, Denso Iridiums, Decat, Cat Back exhaust, K&N Panel filter) to a freshly sercviced motor.. The difference is very noticeable.... Obviously these parts have been done time and time again but next week i will be fitting a new manifold and a set of developmental MKivStore cams... Dave (RR guru) and Jason (ex WRC engine builder) have designed these and the forecast/projection of the performance is looking good... I have no doubt they will be fine tuned once the car gets on the rollers for optimum performance, but i think we are going for useable torque not out and out power gains.... We should have some graghs for you lot in the next few weeks and i will be videoing the runs for all of you that dont believe in Internet figures.... We are hoping to be able to offer a kind of BPU package or Stage 1/2/3 type packages for you over the next few months... Mine will be the first and I can wait... Sounds interesting:Pling: Any ideas on expected outputs/gains? What would we (possibly) be looking at when combined with your zorst headers?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JODY T Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 all the figures are up in the air... or Internet figures!... I dont really want to estimate just yet, but the set up of the car will be for driveability, torque not out and out power gains.. My car will be returned to standard to get a base figure then, we will modify the car 1 step at a time to see the HP, TQ figures changing... Should be good, and then we can give estimated gains when you get each stage... (Estimation based on car being sound in the first place.) Getting quite excited... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 Good theory Jody. Its always best to baseline, test then re-baseline to verify the gains are real and repeatable. So much of the numbers banded about in the aftermarket performance business are based on a single dyno run with an unknown spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JODY T Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 Yeah i know.. i could throw in a few numbers to make us look good... but thats not how I like to do things... If i sell you something and quote a figure, I want it to be realistic and proven on a healthy car.. Then as long as your cars healthy... 10BHP on my car will be simular to the gains on yours... I hate internet figures... Its all BS.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathew Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 sounds very interesting, think il be keeping an eye on this. keep us updated with the progress jody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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