Jim_1979 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Ok... First of all I just took out an insurance policy with Sky Insurance. I got the docs through the door today saying I needed to return certain documentation etc..... One being Proof of security. It said... "Theft cover is granted on the condition that your vehicle has a fitted and working approved security device. Your insureres require proof of purchase, fitting etc in order to extend theft cover. There is no theft cover without acceptable security proof" So as my car currently has nae alarm whatsoever (try coming to steal it and I'll bash you!!... lol). What is an approved security device?? Does it have to be a Cat1 alarm system fitted professionally?? I was looking on ebay and saw some decent 2way alarms with remote start and turbo timer features. Most of them alot cheaper than any of the decent Cat1 alarms. Anyone?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 It will need to be a Cat 1 Thatcham approved alarm system and you will need a certificate from a professional installer saying it is fitted and working properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_1979 Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 but surely loads of people either don't have a cat1 alarm or don't have the certificate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 but surely loads of people either don't have a cat1 alarm or don't have the certificate? Unfortunately not fella. I think you will find that everyone here will have an approved alarm and has had to show a certificate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Yep - you'll need a VSIB certificate for a Thatcham approved alarm - Cat 1, I think for sky. Popular choices are the Clifford Concept range and the Toad Ai 606. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 i have the toad ai606, cat1 with security papers, im with sky too, its a good alarm! Dont think the admiral run companies require anything like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_1979 Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 Do turbo timers work with the toad ai606 alarm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr lover Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 most insurance companies will insist on a cat1 alarm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 I've got a Toad Ai606 which I fitted myself, reliable but the siren isn't very loud . I might connect an aditional siren to the switched output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Do turbo timers work with the toad ai606 alarm Yeh mine does, jurgens installer did it tho so dont know if there's things you have to do to get turbo timer and toad working together! Take your car to your nearest car audio/security place and im sure they will sort you out an alarm and certificate, or even some companies come out to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_1979 Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 another question then.... Anyone in the borders/edinburgh area who knows somewhere that'll fit a cat1 alarm??? Which alarms do you guys recommend, or is the toad ai606 about the best value for money one around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
affney Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 have a rough guide here looking at doing it on mine too, the one i want fitted at a place near me clifford concept 650, £350 fitted. remote start is extra £250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_1979 Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 Yeh mine does, jurgens installer did it tho so dont know if there's things you have to do to get turbo timer and toad working together! Take your car to your nearest car audio/security place and im sure they will sort you out an alarm and certificate, or even some companies come out to you! How does that work? Press the alarm button, then when the engine stops the car automatically arms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyW Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Yeh mine does, jurgens installer did it tho so dont know if there's things you have to do to get turbo timer and toad working together! Hi mate, could you pm me with the price that Jurgen would charge for this on one of his imports as i might get one when mine arrives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Clifford, toad or viper. There all pretty good, depends what features or price range you have in mind. Its normally the quality of the install that leads to a trouble free alarm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_1979 Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 tbh I'm just after a decent cheap as possible cat1 alarm. I used to have a Scorpion alarm on my mr2 and omg did that give me nothing but trouble! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 How does that work? Press the alarm button, then when the engine stops the car automatically arms? Nah, the doors/alarm wont lock till turbo timer turns the engine off. but the alarm will arm automatically after a while shud you forget or not be bothered to wait for turbo timer to stop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=37903&highlight=cobra+toad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_1979 Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=37903&highlight=cobra+toad ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Hi mate, could you pm me with the price that Jurgen would charge for this on one of his imports as i might get one when mine arrives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_1979 Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 Just bout the ai606 ! ... Can you get any funcky add-ons for this or is it a boggo standard affair?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Just bout the ai606 ! ... Can you get any funcky add-ons for this or is it a boggo standard affair?.... Yeh it says in the manual, too many to list really, usual window closure etc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz supra Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Most decent insurance Co's just want a Cat 2 immobiliser fitted so the car is dead, Thats all I have and my premuim is £297.00 Fully comp protected, Its usually the companies that don't really want to insure these types of car that request a Cat 1 Alarm, Although Scoobies / skylines etc most companies demand a tracker, To be honest a Cat 2 is more than adequate, you just want the car immobilised, I've had a few interesting discussions with insurance companies on this subject their view is as our cars are now getting classed as low replacement value , a Cat 2 with certificate is now usually all Insurance Co's want Alarms ... do you take any notice of them ??? By then the damage is done anyway.. broken windows , ICE gone etc et etc so a bit pointless the more important thing is the car is still there.. hence the immobiliser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_1979 Posted October 5, 2006 Author Share Posted October 5, 2006 totally agree with you there mate. If someone hears a car alarm, most people ignore it. I was in Edinburgh in my old mr2 and the alarm was playing up. It kept going off etc while I was fiddling about inside the car. Not one person came up to me! For all they know I could have been trying to steal the thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Well chap I have the Clifford 600 on mine with the remote start. Good alarm, I havnt had any trouble and the remote start is great in winter. You start you car up leaving running knowing that it is still locked and alarmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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