View Full Version : BP Ultimate 102 & Shell V-power
Coming soon apparantly, according to pistonheads.
102 at 30 outlets already & V-power (99) on its way.
Dunno how much they are gonna sting us for though:rolleyes:
v-power will be the same price as optimax.
silvershark44
24-08-06, 12:49
I hate when companies just say soon, i mean how soon is soon?
In my experience soon often means a very very long time:tongue:
v-power is out NOW!
And 102RON BP is also available in portsmouth :)
silvershark44
24-08-06, 13:33
Well if you live in the south maybe so
But where I live in the midlands, we dont even have TESCO 99 RON!!!
Im still waiting for that to arrive!!
Most BP garages dont have normal ultimate and there is one shell garage in the whole city!
So not easy to get decent fuel where I live:(
Some info here on BP Ultimate 102 :-
http://www.bp.com/genericsection.do?categoryId=6621&contentId=7017179
Looks like it has BIO fuel additives to get the higher rating.
Anyone know of a listing of BP stations selling 102 ?
*Edit: found it
http://www.bp.com/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9009087&contentId=7016865
All the bumph on this 102 octane fuel looks good, but its gonna cost over £2 a litre isn't it ?, it won't be worth the extra for me i'm afraid.
silvershark44
24-08-06, 19:09
£2 a litre!! F&ck tht. Though i may use it occasionly. But £120 to fill the tank?? No thanks
Surely no one is gonna pay that?!?
Optimax is only 98.9 up here in Scotland. Mind you not got my car off Jurgen yet so cant take advantage of it.
102RON BP is currently £2.42 / litre in Portsmouth..
its expensive - but when they quote a 7% increase in power on a standard car, its virtually the same as adding an exhaust and air filter! :D
silvershark44
24-08-06, 20:35
you would probably have to reset your ecu to get the benefit out of it though, then so many miles for it to relearn how to use the fuel:innocent:
Optimax is only 98.9 up here in Scotland. Mind you not got my car off Jurgen yet so cant take advantage of it.
its amazing that we can say ONLY 98.9 a litre, we have been conditioned by high prices that we think that is cheap.
its amazing that we can say ONLY 98.9 a litre, we have been conditioned by high prices that we think that is cheap.
this is the thing i was discussing with my work mate - the whole country went apeshit when we hit the 70p barrier - 5 years on - and were near a quid and no ones sayin jack shit ..... lpg is the way forward :D
Stevie Boy
25-08-06, 16:49
Filled up with V-Power by accident yesterday, thought i was filling up with Optimax but reciept said V-Power which i thought was strange, paid £1.09 a litre which isn't totally unusual in London especially if someone starts a war with a Middle Eastern country or there's flood/storm/tornado or when it's holiday season USA.
BP 102's been out in Canning Town East London BP for a few months now, another station in Southgate North London was sposed to start selling it end of June, they weren't when i was on route to Santa Pod around then but think i saw a sign for it the other day.
Could be worth putting half a tank in or so on the way to a track or dyno run day, then dilute to taste/wallet on return journey if there's still any left (should get a few more miles out of the tank too!)
Terminator
25-08-06, 20:50
60bhp gain at 4500 in a Porsches 16% gain over 97Ron pump fuel.
If my maths is right thats 60 on 375.
16% of 800 is 128. :d Thats better than a 100 shot.
I feel another map coming on. and a few green cannisters for the strip.
Be aware, its only 90MON which is 96AKI. I use a 103 RON which is 94MON, far better for turbo use.
where the hell do you get 103RON???
where the hell do you get 103RON???
Race fuel surplus from work :)
What is the best one then guys? V-Power or this BP 102RON? Anyone had both and noticed any difference?
Max Headroom
29-08-06, 10:24
this is the thing i was discussing with my work mate - the whole country went apeshit when we hit the 70p barrier - 5 years on - and were near a quid and no ones sayin jack shit ..... lpg is the way forward :D
Due to the goverment passing new laws you cannot protest any more because you will get locked up
My local shell is now selling V-Power for 99.9p :)
What is the best one then guys? V-Power or this BP 102RON? Anyone had both and noticed any difference?
On paper the BP looks better with the octane rating at least. Price wise the V power wins by a large margin.. (V power is around £1.00-1.10 per litre. BP102 is around £2.40+ per litre).
I guess it boils down to: Is the extra 3 octane points worth double the price ?
no is prob the answer, couldnt belive this price when i saw it..
Due to the goverment passing new laws you cannot protest any more because you will get locked up
Democracy in action. ;)
Will a stock ECU be able to tune itself for a 102RON fuel, cause arent they tuned for 100 MAX?
My local shell is now selling V-Power for 99.9p :)
:) My Local Tesco's is selling 99 for 96.9 :p
I would say V is targeted for general everyday use, where as 102 is aimed at the track user. That’s the conversation i was having with the BP people at Goodwood anyway, hence the price diff' and the splurge lists all the race tracks near the filling stations that sell the stuff.
I'll use V all the time unless going on track/time trial.
I'd compare V with Ultimate as do BP (one of the BP guys said on the quiet he'd probably use V over Ultimate anyway)
(one of the BP guys said on the quiet he'd probably use V over Ultimate anyway)
why is that?
why is that?
Probably because it's cheaper. It is round here anyway, V-power 98.9, ultimate 100.9 this morning, both garages on the same road too.
Probably because it's cheaper. It is round here anyway, V-power 98.9, ultimate 100.9 this morning, both garages on the same road too.
Which road is that, young fella-me-lad?
No real answer.
They had 2 stands, 1 pushing Ultimate and 1 pushing 102.
A tech’ guy in the Ultimate stand would stand by Ultimate even though it has less RON’s, it has an anti-friction agent which he thought Shell didn’t (I now see it does BTW)
Also seemed to imply they use Scoobies for a lot of their testing.
One guy of the several Sales people on the 102 stand just said he’d use Shell. The others wouldn’t comment. Couldn’t get a definitive reason why other than the higher RON’s and being used in a JAP import where the RON's are higher.
But 102 is the next one up still.
..Will a stock ECU be able to tune itself for a 102RON fuel, cause arent they tuned for 100 MAX?
The stock ECU is happy with 105+ RON, apparently it hunts aggressively for max ignition advance. Nice.:d
I'm not sure if the JSpec behaves the same as UKSpec/USSpec but I remember a conversation I had with the Dude and his JSpec kept going better until he reached halfway between SUL and Race fuel.
So yep, it's worth a go.;)
Obiously the gains will be limited if you run stock boost, you need to get into silly-number-land for maximum effect (not forgetting the additional intercooling needs)
Which road is that, young fella-me-lad?
Dewsbury Road matey.
V Power out here too over in Crete :d :d :d
hope when it arrives at us let it be same price as optimax :eyebrows:
Jurgen-Jm-Imports
29-08-06, 19:10
i tried this on my rex v power it certainly shifts lol
Dewsbury Road matey.
That's a long road. Where exactly?
Roughly here.
http://www.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=53.771519,-1.547763&spn=0.004781,0.010064&om=1
If you're going towards the centre, the shell garage is on your right just after the traffics lights after Cross Flatts park. BP garage is also on the right just after the next junction.
V-power seems to have hit the pumps here in Inverness.......was quite shocked to be honest as we're usually the last to get anything!! 99.9p/litre as well :thumbs:
Terminator
30-08-06, 11:03
According to my local garage, they are getting V power when the current Optimax tank is empty. Roll out is to high volume sales stations first then stations in close proximity.
Underworld
30-08-06, 11:59
Would be nice to get rolling road readings from standard unleaded, 99 ron tescos, optimax and then v-power. If any one is bored... :)
Would be nice to get rolling road readings from standard unleaded, 99 ron tescos, optimax and then v-power. If any one is bored... :)
Top Gear (I think) did a test using Optimax, Tesco and Ultima. On a basic car performance gain was negligible. On a performance car (think it was the new EVO) Optimax gave the best increase...think it was something like 30%!!! Now on a sup...:d
I also think it was done in another Jap mag as well with again optimax coming out on top, ultimat second and tesco third, might have been banzai.
My mapper has also tested optimax and ultimate on the same scooby and found they could run more ignition advance with optimax which gave more power.
Yes it was Banzai.
Ripped the attachments from the previous thread.
Cant be arsed to search for the post, but yes Optimax came out best on the Bench test with a modded cossie engine.
Probably about the best test/comparsion so far.
Pretty big gains to be had if setup properly.
Only downside is you then have to use optimax or V-Power all the time.
Terminator
31-08-06, 23:16
A JDM MKIV is designed to run on 101 ron fuel. The closer we can get to that the better.
V Power has been on sale up in the north east for nearly 2 weeks. Price is not bad either, 99.9. Went to York the other day and it was 106.9!!!
Apparently it is slightly better than Optimax :)
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