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Got my car back from Whifbitz this week, with the apexi FC replacing an emanage ultimate and I can safely say its a completely different car...:cool:
Paul assured me that it would be a wise upgrade, and I can only bow in his presence - the difference is absolutely astounding.
The car now drives like a production car around town, not missing a beat, but as soon as you start to push a little harder - boy does she go... spools smoothly, no hesitation, pulls all the way. Definately worth every penny.
To me its a completely different car!
I also think its better on fuel - but I'll see how that goes ;)
PeterP will probably add to this, as he joined me on the journey home Friday - so you'll get a passengers view point as well.
(Just don't mention the anoying M3 :sly: )
Michael Lane praised the FC a while back - I now completely agree as well.
Also, while I was there had a few things polished and nicked PeterP's bonnet off his car :d :d so theres a couple of pics as well .......
So once again - a big thanks to Paul and Daz for their help and service, and of course for spending more of my money - cheers lads!
I will add my 2p worth! :p
First thing to clear up is the M3 business!! I've been in a fair few Supe's now and can honestly say Steve's is the nicest so far for the money anyway (Haven't been in yours yet Paul hence the reservation for best ride!;) ). We are heading back when a rather annoying M3 chooses to join us with his 'M3' numberplate that probably set him back more than the car did! :rolleyes: road clears and a bit of right foot action sees us cruising past at around 120 leptons. M3 decides to pick up the pace and is on the bumper as we approach another roundabout. We exit the roundabout and Steve has upped the boost to top setting (1.7bar I believe?!), straighten out and plant the accelerator pedal into the carpet whilst whipping through the gears. In no time we were at 145 leptons with a spec in the rearview and he gave up at that point!! :d Top kill there Steve especially as you weren't really trying as it was still a touch damp!
The Apexi FC is the best mod this side of the PHR Stage 1+ you've done IMHO (except maybe that tasty carbon bonnet!:p :d ). It has as you say made the car seem almost factory and it didn't miss a beat or misbehave once the whole way back!! If mine was compatiable I'd easily get one of these yesterday as having been in the car before when the Ultimate was in and after with the FC, I can't describe how amazing the transformation was!!
If mine comes out at the end of this week anything like yours mate i'll be well chuffed!!!!
Top motor, top tuning............................ now where's mine?! :search: ;)
Cheers,
Pete :)
Engine bay looks sweet but can we have a front on shot please?!?!?!?! :innocent:
Cheers,
Pete :)
Jurgen-Jm-Imports
21-08-06, 14:00
nice so the power fc is a good move for the supra i used them in the rx7 a lot
I will add my 2p worth!
First thing to clear up is the M3 business!! I've been in a fair few Supe's now and can honestly say Steve's is the nicest so far for the money anyway (Haven't been in yours yet Paul hence the reservation for best ride!;) ). We are heading back when a rather annoying M3 chooses to join us with his 'M3' numberplate that probably set him back more than the car did! :rolleyes: road clears and a bit of right foot action sees us cruising past at around 120 leptons. M3 decides to pick up the pace and is on the bumper as we approach another roundabout. We exit the roundabout and Steve has upped the boost to top setting (1.7bar I believe?!), straighten out and plant the accelerator pedal into the carpet whilst whipping through the gears. In no time we were at 145 leptons with a spec in the rearview and he gave up at that point!! Top kill there Steve especially as you weren't really trying as it was still a touch damp!
The Apexi FC is the best mod this side of the PHR Stage 1+ you've done IMHO (except maybe that tasty carbon bonnet! ). It has as you say made the car seem almost factory and it didn't miss a beat or misbehave once the whole way back!! If mine was compatiable I'd easily get one of these yesterday as having been in the car before when the Ultimate was in and after with the FC, I can't describe how amazing the transformation was!!
If mine comes out at the end of this week anything like yours mate i'll be well chuffed!!!!
Top motor, top tuning............................ now where's mine?! :search: ;)
Cheers,
Pete :)
Thanks mate...
Didn't really notice your reaction at the time with the M3 as I was concentrating being 'captain' ! - And it was a mere 1.5 bar :eyebrows:
He'd tried the same thing for 3 roundabouts - so after dropping him twice running 1.1 bar I felt the 'bird' was finally needed and a 1.5 bar run ensued :d
( It got boring demolishing him anyway :tongue: )
I supose the carbon bonnet isn't technically a mod yet - as I haven't paid for it , its still yours :taped:
nice so the power fc is a good move for the supra i used them in the rx7 a lot
Certainly seems that way Jurgen,
Its transformed mine....
Who installed / mapped the eManage?
Nice one:) car looks geat aswell
Paul Whiffin
21-08-06, 22:22
Who installed / mapped the eManage?
Me.
Paul Whiffin
21-08-06, 22:25
nice so the power fc is a good move for the supra i used them in the rx7 a lot
Oh yes, great ECU, it is most definately plug and play, they come with very good base maps which make it easy to tune and cheaper than some other stand alone ECU's out there. We've fitted LOADS of them to Skylines and RX7's and quite a few Supra's now, for the money you cant go wrong, only problem is they are only available pre VVTi 6 speeds.
Paul Whiffin
21-08-06, 22:27
Got my car back from Whifbitz this week, with the apexi FC replacing an emanage ultimate and I can safely say its a completely different car...:cool:
Paul assured me that it would be a wise upgrade, and I can only bow in his presence - the difference is absolutely astounding.
The car now drives like a production car around town, not missing a beat, but as soon as you start to push a little harder - boy does she go... spools smoothly, no hesitation, pulls all the way. Definately worth every penny.
To me its a completely different car!
I also think its better on fuel - but I'll see how that goes ;)
PeterP will probably add to this, as he joined me on the journey home Friday - so you'll get a passengers view point as well.
(Just don't mention the anoying M3 :sly: )
Michael Lane praised the FC a while back - I now completely agree as well.
Also, while I was there had a few things polished and nicked PeterP's bonnet off his car :d :d so theres a couple of pics as well .......
So once again - a big thanks to Paul and Daz for their help and service, and of course for spending more of my money - cheers lads!
Nice one matey, glad you like the new bits fitted, well apart from those gauges you gave us to fit! You ready for those KAD 6 pots yet? Ready and waiting for you when you've scared yourself enough with you current brake problems!
Jurgen-Jm-Imports
21-08-06, 22:28
i think aran username fish on here is getting one from you
Paul Whiffin
21-08-06, 22:30
Indeed he is, apparently his car is running off the scale rich! Should see some extra power there me thinks, we are also going to do 2 maps, road fuel and race fuel, should be interesting seeing the differences.
Jurgen-Jm-Imports
21-08-06, 22:33
yer am looking forward to see it think he is running around 350 at 1 bar with the cats in on surrey r/r, now the cats off and if he goes to 1.3 think 450 is feasible???
only problem is they are only available pre VVTi 6 speeds.Could you not piggy back the PowerFC with the stock VVTi ECU and let the stocker control the VVTi?
Nice one matey, glad you like the new bits fitted, well apart from those gauges you gave us to fit! You ready for those KAD 6 pots yet? Ready and waiting for you when you've scared yourself enough with you current brake problems!
paul can you give me a price for the full KAD setup please:)
Paul Whiffin
21-08-06, 23:10
yer am looking forward to see it think he is running around 350 at 1 bar with the cats in on surrey r/r, now the cats off and if he goes to 1.3 think 450 is feasible???
Dont really know on power figures to be honest with you, I never stick any of the cars on the rollers, we do all the tuning on the road, the best place for it as long as the fuzz dont catch you!
Paul Whiffin
21-08-06, 23:13
paul can you give me a price for the full KAD setup please:)
What size mate? 356mm or 378mm, only problem you get with the 378mm is they are quite noisy, rattle around a bit as they are floating discs, perform rather well though!
Front and rear? have you got uk on the back already?
Ta
Paul Whiffin
21-08-06, 23:14
Could you not piggy back the PowerFC with the stock VVTi ECU and let the stocker control the VVTi?
No idea I'm afraid.
What size mate? 356mm or 378mm, only problem you get with the 378mm is they are quite noisy, rattle around a bit as they are floating discs, perform rather well though!
Front and rear? have you got uk on the back already?
Ta
yep 378mm kit........ front and rears... i still have j-specs on the back:)
Any news when my seats will be in?:)
Paul Whiffin
21-08-06, 23:53
yep 378mm kit........ front and rears... i still have j-specs on the back:)
Any news when my seats will be in?:)
You have pm
Me.
Excellent stuff, I was hoping that might be the case to really show that the FC is superior rather than it being a mapper type gain.
Nicely done.
I love the Apexi PFC too, truly a great piece of kit :)
Jurgen-Jm-Imports
22-08-06, 10:26
am amazed how much yous rated the fc on here i honestly didnt think you lot would approve of it, like a said earlier i always use this for the rx7 and my mr2 might now get one.:)
am amazed how much yous rated the fc on here i honestly didnt think you lot would approve of it, like a said earlier i always use this for the rx7 and my mr2 might now get one.:)
I think you'll find lack of availability is the main problem not the actual unit itself.
Jurgen-Jm-Imports
22-08-06, 10:47
there is loads in japan i sell them to www.wgtautodevelopments.co.uk
Jurgen-Jm-Imports
22-08-06, 10:48
but your best bet for the supra is to buy them of paul as he knows what he is doing with them.
Nice one:) car looks geat aswell
Thanks Jamie.... yours is rather fine as well...
I just need a few ladies draped over it to keep up ;)
Nice one matey, glad you like the new bits fitted, well apart from those gauges you gave us to fit! You ready for those KAD 6 pots yet? Ready and waiting for you when you've scared yourself enough with you current brake problems!
Lets not mention the gauges :)
KAD's are on the list, you know you'll be the first to know when I've managed to clear it with wifey :rolleyes:
I'll have to get Pete to mention how bad the brakes are and that they should really be sorted out :d
but your best bet for the supra is to buy them of paul as he knows what he is doing with them.
Yeh baby !
Paul Whiffin
22-08-06, 20:51
I think you'll find lack of availability is the main problem not the actual unit itself.
I can get them in 2 weeks max normally, I might start stocking them actually as I'm fitting more and more of them these days.
my cars down at pauls yard at the moment waiting 2 have a apexi unit fitted as well as iron out a few other problems cant wait 2 get it back now after reading this thread
Paul Whiffin
22-08-06, 21:40
Yes mate, it will be the answer to all your problems I reckon, it will be a different car when you get it back.
Paul,
What is the cost of the Apexi unit? What is the cost of mapping it?
Thanks,
Graham
Also, the Apexi is a complete replacement ECU correct, not a piggyback?
Jurgen-Jm-Imports
29-08-06, 15:18
Also, the Apexi is a complete replacement ECU correct, not a piggyback?
yep its a replacement;)
yep its a replacement;)
Great thanks! Now just for prices...
Hey Graham,
You'll have to bear with him (Paul) at the moment as he's away on holiday this week.
He's due back 6th September when he should be able to give you a price mate.
Also worth noting there was no internet or e-mail access last week and he was waiting for an engineer to fix the problems so it may be a while longer depending on if that was fixed before they closed the workshops.
If you haven't heard anything by say the 8th September, I'd give Paul a ring on 0208 367 1286 or his mobile which is on the Whifbitz website.
Cheers,
Pete :)
Thanks for that Peter, forgot about him going on leave...
Graham,
Power FC = £881.25 inc Vat
Hand Controller (Optional but I know Steve L didn't see the need for one!) = £229.13 in Vat
Fitting / Setup = between £200 - £400 depending on individual car specification normally.
I spoke to Paul yesterday and asked him so I could let you know.
All the best,
Pete :)
Graham,
Power FC = £881.25 inc Vat
Hand Controller (Optional but I know Steve L didn't see the need for one!) = £229.13 in Vat
Fitting / Setup = between £200 - £400 depending on individual car specification normally.
I spoke to Paul yesterday and asked him so I could let you know.
All the best,
Pete :)
Thanks for that mate!
Were there any additional harness and/or sensor required when you got yours?
Considering this as something between the Ultimate and the AEM.
Graham
Sadly being an Auto and a UK car I can't have the Power FC!!! :(
I'll probably have to go for the AEM which is more expensive and probably won't give any real gains either!!!!!! :tongue: :(
You and Steve L (owner who started the thread and a good local mate of mine) are lucky as this is only available for pre-VVTI 6-spd J-Spec cars which yours are!
Really is a great setup and is plug and play from what Paul was saying to me so no real additional mapping costs involved as it comes with a very complete base map from the factory.
Didn't mention any need for additional sensors but I can double check for you mate.
All the best,
Pete :)
Its not an issue, I will discuss with Paul when he gets back.
I'll probably have to go for the AEM which is more expensive and probably won't give any real gains either!!!!!! :tongue: :(
Wont give you any gains over what?
'Wont give you any gains over what?'
The Power FC which is significantly cheaper, easier to install and based on how well Steve's car is running now I doubt it'll do any better a job is what I mean't.
Cheers,
Pete :)
Thanks for that mate!
Were there any additional harness and/or sensor required when you got yours?
Considering this as something between the Ultimate and the AEM.
Graham
Hi Graham,
I needed a map sensor as well.
It's a superb setup and definately worth considering.
I didn't go for the controller, as I'm not in to fiddling with the settings myself... I'd rather drive :) - and it saves a few quid.
Paul has one that he uses for setup - after that theres very little use for it - I'll just go back to Paul for any further fettling!
May well be down at Ace Cafe next week if you're near ... I can take you for a spin so you can see what it's like.
Hi Graham,
I needed a map sensor as well.
It's a superb setup and definately worth considering.
I didn't go for the controller, as I'm not in to fiddling with the settings myself... I'd rather drive :) - and it saves a few quid.
Paul has one that he uses for setup - after that theres very little use for it - I'll just go back to Paul for any further fettling!
May well be down at Ace Cafe next week if you're near ... I can take you for a spin so you can see what it's like.
I am technically in the area, but my car will not be running until March next year more than likely...
Would love to go for a drive, need to see where I am going!!
I am supposed to be meeting up with PeterP this weekend I believe. Peter can you confirm? I am sure I sent you a PM...
Just trying to get everything sorted in the mean time.
Cheers,
Graham
I feel a convoy in the making!!! ;) :d :d
Yes you did Graham and sorry i've not got back to you sooner but been flat out with work commitments etc!
I'm still fine to pop up but was wondering if you'd be able to meet me(us if you're up for it Steve?!) at my bro's house which is Kent and about half way between our respecitive homes!
Let me know either here or via PM if that's ok with you mate.
All the best,
Pete :)
thats fine mate, thats what I thought that was what we original had decided to do?
Just let me know where and when via PM... sounds good though!!
G
mikeyb10supra
01-09-06, 15:56
Paul how does the power FC work with a small single on an auto?? how does it cope with the gear shifts? I take it this is a standalone hence the gear shift question? or does it piggyback the stock ECU
Paul Whiffin
02-09-06, 12:54
Paul how does the power FC work with a small single on an auto?? how does it cope with the gear shifts? I take it this is a standalone hence the gear shift question? or does it piggyback the stock ECU
Its only available for a 6 speed pre-VVTi Supra TT I'm afraid, you would either have to go piggy back or ideally AEM.
Ta
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