MaveriK Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Right, sorry for the tale of woe.................. Basically i paid to have super duper fecking hybrids installed by everyones bestest mate Slowdog. Since his work i have paid just about everyman and his dog to put things right and my patience and my bank balance are running more than a little thin. Greg at Turbofit has looked at them and is sending them away for a refurb cost. I have a FMIC, 650's, Emanage Ultimate and a new Walbro with FPR so do i continue down the twins road or spend a little more and go single? ps If we have anymore sightings of Slowdog please feel free to kick him in the nuts from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3xt3r Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Definately a small single. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 Will that give me more WALLOP than a hybrid twin setup? What sort of BHP could i expect with my setup with hybrids or a small single? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Will that give me more WALLOP than a hybrid twin setup? What sort of BHP could i expect with my setup with hybrids or a small single? you seem to have all the right bits to go single, 500 rwhp on a T61 no probs fast spool up and you will notice a huuuuuuuge difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 deffo single:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Big twins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 What was wrong with the hybrids? You have the supporting kit to to either Single or Jybrids. But if you have the hybrids already I'd stick with them....it's cheaper to referb them (if they really need it) than go single. (Well it should be). The Hybrids will take less mapping too. I'd give Ian C a bell when you're ready to map either Single or Hybrids...he'll work wonders with the EMU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 As I said dude, single!!!! *grin* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 The Hybrids will take less mapping too. It is a non-vvti TT...I'm sure map-master Ian can do that in his sleep anyway, single or not *grin* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 The second turbo is seized and number one has bent blades. If anyone from the Wiltshire area sees a drunken man crying in the gutter later this evening please give me a lift home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jase_93tt Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 If you dont mind losing a little bottom end power, whilst improving mid-top end vastly, then singles are for you. I recently switched to a single turbo. Car is slower around town and feels like an NA due to lack of 1st turbo helping with the low rpm boost, but once its rolling and the turbo kicks in, its much, much faster. Would never go back to twins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 If you dont mind losing a little bottom end power, whilst improving mid-top end vastly, then singles are for you. I dont think all single setups are like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I love the sequential system, but with hybrids the extra temps are something that would be on my mind. If you went for a small single you'd loose like half the original weight and you could have the same power if you wanted with more available. But i think what you really need to do is go out in a single. People don't always realise what the change is like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-lover Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Why Have 1 When You Can Have 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ?????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 if you go single be prepared to shit your pants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 if you go single be prepared to shit your pants I take back that offer of a ride in the car:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I dont think all single setups are like that Absolutely right Wez. Jase, take a look at the BPU vs T61 setup below I love the sequential system, but with hybrids the extra temps are something that would be on my mind. If you went for a small single you'd loose like half the original weight and you could have the same power if you wanted with more available. But i think what you really need to do is go out in a single. People don't always realise what the change is like. Couldn't agree more. The difference between a properly setup single and BPU is shocking. I do not consider the XS power stuff a proper single though, they're fat diesel turbo's and have no place on performance cars. A properly set up single (BL, PHR, SP, Garret, HKS etc) will be mind blowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Defo single T61, Pros, Neater engine bay, easier to diagnose faults, plug and play turbos with ease (obviously dependent on compatibility), Lower EGT's, linear more controllable and predicatable power. Cons, Cost to do it properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I do not consider the XS power stuff a proper single though, they're fat diesel turbo's and have no place on performance cars. A properly set up single (BL, PHR, SP, Garret, HKS etc) will be mind blowing. You wanna be carefull you don't fall into that snobbery section that seems to be going round Have a chat with IanR and then race him and you'll be VERY surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 You wanna be carefull you don't fall into that snobbery section that seems to be going round Whom, me? I'm being careful to avoid that. But there's SO little info on the XS turbo's I'm resigned to believe the hype (or lack of it). Nothing so far on this forum or other forums has shown them anywhere near equal competitor to the mainstream turbo's. I agree the rest of the XS power stuff is okay if you don't mind some metalwork (or have someone like turbofit to do it), but the turbo's are another matter. When someone runs an XS power turbo'd car at SRR on the same day as a few other Supra's then maybe we can reach some conclusions... I’m not anti XS power by any means (or Turbofit for that matter, in fact I think very highly of Sam and Greg). It’d just be nice to see some comparable results for once, so far on this forum we’ve seen nothing except opinions and conjecture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I take back that offer of a ride in the car:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 now i am drunk i have changed my mind, forget kicking that waste in the plums, i want the pleasure of hurting him myself. He left me carless during my partners pregnancy and has ripped me off left right. I whole heartedly apologise to anyone that i may have pointed in his direction and i have never wished ill of anyone but if he gets run over by a bus tomorrow i want to be driving it. Rant over for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 BL do a nice kit or two, pretty reasonable price also!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 now i am drunk i have changed my mind, forget kicking that waste in the plums, i want the pleasure of hurting him myself. He left me carless during my partners pregnancy and has ripped me off left right. I whole heartedly apologise to anyone that i may have pointed in his direction and i have never wished ill of anyone but if he gets run over by a bus tomorrow i want to be driving it. Rant over for now So I assume he doesn't come to your Birthday parties then m8!! I almost left my car with him before I went away for 6-months - I am so pleased that my personal admin (not hygiene with anyone gets confused) was up my arse that day as I didn't get a chance to drop it off! Back to the theme of the thread but I have a pair of mint-Hybrids in the garage and I'm wondering if I should slap a single on the car instead - not sure though as I've got an auto!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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