Guest CarLover Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 As I posted before I'm currently after UK-spec Auto. But just seen this on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320015099726&fromMakeTrack=true So need your advice as I have never dealt with tiptronics before but was very keen to get one. If there are 2 more less equally priced cars, around 10K+, both of them are standard with no mods (well, I’m not counting alloys and some really minor things, etc): 93 or 94 UK-spec with 60-70K mileage, good condition, history etc or 98 vvt-i tiptronic 100K mileage, few owners, imported new to the UK Apart from personal taste and the insurance price difference (98 j-spec is really expensive to insure) what would you think is better? Which car would hold its value better? 93/94 against 98…. But 100K mileage for tiptronic box seems a bit high… How to compare Is there passenger’s airbag in 98 vvt-i? I know that there is one in Uk-spec And also, is it possible to do BPU to vvt-i? Any major difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 I'd personally go for the VVTi, it looks in very good condition and looks well looked after, despite the mileage. It looks completely stock too, so if it has been well maintained then the mileage should not be a problem from an engine/gearbox POV. Personally though I would never buy a car sight unseen off the internet, i'd want to give it a thorough going over and have a test drive before parting with any money on any car. Yes it has driver and passenger airbags fitted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 I've never seen so many RSP Supras for sale as in the last few months! It's been said the the VVTi seems to get more performance increase from BPU than non vvti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 I'd go for the UKSpec. It's easier to tune for 450-500bhp and in this case the mileage is relatively low (usually it is the other way round). Obviously you need to check docs and all MOTs. 98VVTi with 100K? No thanks. The only point would be to get a late VVTi with LOW mileage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 The VVTI looks cleaner and much better looking, defo the one id go for, 100k miles is nothing with a well maintained engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qaisar Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 ive got a tiptronic and i think its great. Works just like a normal auto in D, flick it to the side and you can still keep both hands on the wheel and change up and down the gears, which is good when say you are giving it some and you want to hold a gear, in the middle of a corner for example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 I'd go for the VVTi more mid range punch. 100k doesn't matter as long as it's been looked after. Facelift bits too make this a better car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBR Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 UK the history is alot easier to track, its on 100k the vvti but how do you know it wasnt clocked it could be reaching 200k for all you know...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 UK the history is alot easier to track, its on 100k the vvti but how do you know it wasnt clocked it could be reaching 200k for all you know...... 25000miles a year fookin' 'ell! The car has been spotted in Norfolk a few times...but it's not attended a meet. I'd investigate it...I personally would if I could afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffvalenti Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 I bet you wished you'd never asked now Personally I'd wait for a VVT-i with less mileage, but 100k isn't really a lot on any engine these days, let alone a 2JZ GTE. I like the tiptronic function, it makes it easier to bang it down a couple of gears when the autobox is being lazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBR Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 25000miles a year fookin' 'ell! The car has been spotted in Norfolk a few times...but it's not attended a meet. I'd investigate it...I personally would if I could afford it. just a figure of speech m8, you know what i was trying to get at (you cant know to much about the car) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albundy68 Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 deffo the trip, 5 years is a looooooong time! but as nick said, wouldnt buy anything i hadnt seen in person, ive seen some right bombs of supras, and just because theyre younger it doesnt mean theyre gonna be better condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 Wouldnt the 100k be mostly Kilometers and the 60-70k in miles. Not sure how much of a difference it makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 This might help ? http://www.supras.co.uk/imports/tiptronic.htm Written by our very own JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 This might help ? http://www.supras.co.uk/imports/tiptronic.htm Written by our very own JB Which is ok apart from not noticing a difference in performance to non vvti. It's definately got more grunt lower down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 I'd go for the UKSpec. It's easier to tune for 450-500bhp and in this case the mileage is relatively low (usually it is the other way round). Out of interest how is it easier to tune a UK over a VVTI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 My tiptronic's done almost 100k genuine miles (imported from new) and is still running as sweet as a nut (touch wood ). I love the tip action - none of this kicking down to 2nd on exiting roundabouts for me, I'm already there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 I love the tip action - none of this kicking down to 2nd on exiting roundabouts for me, I'm already there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 On a stock car of that mileage, if it has been properly maintained with regular servicing etc. then the engine gearbox *should* be okay. At that mileage it would be the suspension components that I would be more concerned about. All relatively easy to replace, but replacement parts are not cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Yep, bushes and rubber parts of all sorts tend to dry up and degrade. If oil changes have been frequent then the engine itself is not an issue - apart from stem seals and the like... If I were to buy a supra in the future I'd probably only consider a late, low-mileage, stock VVTi - purely for ageing reasons... Out of interest how is it easier to tune a UK over a VVTI? Much easier, if you know what you're doing. The whole fuelling system is designed for more flow capacity (around 20%) and the ECU is geared around that (so any signal-fudgers will have to stretch only a tiny bit, and you probably wouldn't need to change injectors, pump or anything) The big brakes are a big bonus (although you might also get them with some VVTis) and the lack of VVTi complexities make it easier to set up the car. Although the concept and implementation of VVTi are very sound, you'll find yourself restricted in finding replacement cams and ways of re-adjusting the VVTi. If you go the route of standalone ECU this restriction may be relieved, but then you are probably talking big turbos etc, so we are probably beyond the UK/JSpec gap anyway... And of course JSpec turbos cannot be pushed hard without risking spitting the ceramic turbines through the exhaust. You get higher-tech turbo technology but you pay for it if you want 'more' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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