fat_controller Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 any1 heard of excess performance, apparently they do single turbo kits, just wondering if any1 knew a website or number. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockys96 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 nope, a lot of traders do single kits on here PHR and boost logic kits come highly recomrnded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 You mean XS Power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Phj and please dont put cheap single turbo kits on your car, remember you are driving a £50k car when it was new. Cheap turbo kits will cost you more in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy23 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 guessing its xs power, they do quite a bit of stuff for us, do a search on here and theres allsorts of reviews, and they have thier own website, check out ebay too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockys96 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 yep there pants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 ok thats that plan out the window. whats the cheapest route to achieve 550-600 bhp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 ok thats that plan out the window. whats the cheapest route to achieve 550-600 bhp there isn't really a cheap way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 ok but what do i need to do and how much are we looking. i've got a uk spec twin with hks dragger,greddy profec b spec 2 boost controller hks mushroom filter and straight through 3inch stainless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob wild Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 ok thats that plan out the window. whats the cheapest route to achieve 550-600 bhp If you find one tell me! Your looking at single turbo. The single turbo shopping list as defined by alex is below Intake side 3" intake filter (cotton or paper type) could reuse stock filter box + pipework with silicon connectors to 3" turbo housing. (Should be in any budget single kit)...UK or VVTi's will need to couple the MAF back into the intake unless you're using an EMS that allows you to remove it. A 2 or 3 Row FMIC OR a high quality brand new SMIC + piping from the turbo to the IC...again should be included in the kit. Intake manifold - Stock Breather system - Fully closed - boss needs to be welded into the new intake pipe. Idle control - Stock BOV - Atmospheric for J-spec, Recirculating for VVTi or UK spec with a MAF - larger capacity required over stock. Engine Crank, rods, pistons, rings, bolts, bearings - stock, upto 600BHP. Cams - stock - though a good idea Ignition system - NGK BKR7E's gapped to .7mm or BCPRES's gapped to 0.7 or Desno IK24's or NGK BKR7(or 8)EIX's (last two are pregapped). Oil system - Stock, but it would be advisable to get a gauge and probe to monitor temp to help you decide if you need an additional cooler. Drivetrain Clutch - Stock till over 500 at the fly. HPF Bronze/Southbend DXD-F are good replacements. Autobox - stock but higher stall might be required if you like drag racing...3400 or something like that. LSD - essential you have a stock one...and consider the TRD LSD when you have more cash. Exhaust side Downpipe, centre section, back box - supplied with the kit - usually 3" Turbo itself - T61 sized non DBB - DBB's add cost though needing a water supply. Manifold - Cast Manifold...far cheaper than the tubular ones...BUT you'll always wish you had gotten a tubi. (I know I did) Wastegate - a decent one - 44mm or larger. HKS/TIAL are proven bits of kit. Oil lines - supplied Fuel system Tank, pump(s), wiring, hoses - One Walbro pump, the rest can be stock Fuel rail - Stock will suffice with drop in 650's Injectors + resistor pack - 650's with no resistor pack needed - J-spec and VVTI! Fuel pressure regulator - Stock Fuel pulsation dampener - Leave it in Electronics ECU/fuel controller - E-Manage Blue/eManage Ultimate/FCon-EZ (I'd have the EMU) Ignition timing control - E-Manage Blue/eManage Ultimate/FCon-EZ (I'd have the EMU) Things not on the list but you wouldn't go near a single turbo engine if it didn't have them Gauges - AFR, EGT, Boost Boost controller - Yes - Blitz or Turbosmart the thread is here: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=71083&page=2&highlight=single+shopping Price wise because i'm doing it at the moment and budget i'm upto about £4000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 there isn't really a cheap way 500-600 bhp is easy. It's maintaining that in a working car that's the hard and expensive part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 500-600 bhp is easy. It's maintaining that in a working car that's the hard and expensive part. He never meantioned "easy" he said "cheapest". Give the car to a trader and let them do all the work, yes that is easy....paying for it is another matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D8MOA Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 or you could sell me you supra cheap and buy a 600bhp beast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 yep there pants Turbos are. Dunno about the rest. The Amercians seem to have changed their views on em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 how much then damo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I can buy these kits for £500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 they must be pants then. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 My point exactly. Good points:- 1. Price Bad points 1. Quality 2. Missing parts 3. Custom work ahs to be done 4. Power gains 5. No backup warentee at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I you want you engine to last change that HKS "filter" to something that actually filters. Something that doesnt suck in all the (very) hot engine bay air would be good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 any suggestions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaGSi Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Could anyone elaborate on why the xspower stuff isnt any good? As far a I know I have their T60 turbo, FMIC and external wastegate and it runs sweet and been reliable the second I drove it away from the workshop too. As weell as that there is afew high powered supes running some of the XS kit too with no probs either. Edited: - On the power gains note, its almost doubled what my stock NA was running so I cant see why thats bad? Unless its differet for a TT? As for the custom work/missing parts I wouldnt know becuase I didnt fit it. I have a guaruntee from the garage so if anything does occur its covered. Im more than happy with it and its bloody qck, but I guess its personal preferance. Some people may of had bad experiences with them in the past, I dont know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Have you been on a dyno? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Have you been on a dyno? post 6;) http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=76396 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaGSi Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Cheers Jamie! You've experienced it so know its relatively quick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 gazza did xs fit the kit for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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