j80leo Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 my mate just had his cosworth on the rollers and it was pushing 343 bhp not that much, but it had 471 torque it is really fast how can you get the supra to run alot more torque, i have got the jap spec tt auto anybody shed some light on the matter my mods hks plugs hks boost controller hks filter greddy e-manage biltz nur spec double decat restrictor ring walbro 255 fuel pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardiffSupra Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Your bpu supra should be quicker me thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j80leo Posted June 10, 2006 Author Share Posted June 10, 2006 they are the same cossie a bit quicker low end revs!!!! :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupra Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Thats a bit strange that, i'd say that my bpu soop is quicker all round than my old 340 bhp cossie, but that does sound like alot of torque, cant remember what my old cossie's figure was. Even if his is a bit quicker, yours looks alot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j80leo Posted June 10, 2006 Author Share Posted June 10, 2006 Thats a bit strange that, i'd say that my bpu soop is quicker all round than my old 340 bhp cossie, but that does sound like alot of torque, cant remember what my old cossie's figure was. Even if his is a bit quicker, yours looks alot better. yes looks alot better he keeps asking me to sell the supra and buy a cossie, tell him to fuck off every time:p old and dated i do like the escort cosworth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 more importantly yours probably isn't a ticking time bomb to blow up keep challenging him until his engine goes bang, then you will be a lot faster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letmeshowyou Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Really can't see that torque figure being correct from a 2 litre engine with that much power! Any times from the drag strip for this car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 I went against a Sierra Cosworth on aq rolling road session earlier this year. The Cossie beat me (just) 368.53 bhp 387.59 ft-lbs against my 366.5 bhp 368.84 ft-lbs. I took solace in the fact that my engine was probably producing more power than his but had more transmission losses being an automatic Mike Edit the Cossies dyno chart is here: http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/rollingroad/graph/rr.blackpool_25.02.06/helm1.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupra Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 I really dont remember my old cossie being stronger at the bottom than my soop, you'd have thought that if a soop and a cossie had around the same bhp, that the soop would have more torque with the litre's advantage. Obviously not ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nismo_lp Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 yeah but look at the state of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Really can't see that torque figure being correct from a 2 litre engine with that much power! why not? Maybe he's running 2 bar boost and his cam timing forces max power to be delivered early on (mediocre VE at high revs) Ask him what sort of revs correspond to these max torque and power figures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupra Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 If it really does have that much torque, it must light up the tyres all the time, unless its a 4x4 model in which case it must have an uprated transmision, an be kin quick off the line... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wez_p Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 my mate just had his cosworth on the rollers and it was pushing 343 bhp not that much, but it had 471 torque it is really fast how can you get the supra to run alot more torque, i have got the jap spec tt auto anybody shed some light on the matter my mods hks plugs hks boost controller hks filter greddy e-manage biltz nur spec double decat restrictor ring walbro 255 fuel pump we've got a few cossies in blackpool that are running this kind of power & more, one being the one that beat Mike on the rollers & another that destroyed me in a straight line when mine was still stock. since i went bpu i've come up against one since that was running similar power to the supe & i could slowly pull away. just take comfort in the fact that few will last running that power consistently whereas yours will so what's your e-manage doing for you? if you've already got a boost controller is it just like a fuelling remao but with jspec injectors still? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyh Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 my mate just had his cosworth on the rollers and it was pushing 343 bhp not that much, but it had 471 torque it is really fast how can you get the supra to run alot more torque, i have got the jap spec tt auto anybody shed some light on the matter my mods hks plugs hks boost controller hks filter greddy e-manage biltz nur spec double decat restrictor ring walbro 255 fuel pump are you sure the torque isnt in newton meters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 are you sure the torque isnt in newton meters good point that would be about 350 ft-lbs, that sounds more likely. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 They all blow up. They are shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wez_p Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 They all blow up. They are shite what are you trying to say hadyn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 what are you trying to say hadyn? Quite literally, that they are shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 They all blow up. They are shite cossies rule:p they only blow up when they have been tunned by a monkey rod tarys 800bhp 200+mph is still on the same enigine for last three years, and he drives it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Please dont let my blunt style upset you cossie lovers- I only jest, I really do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wez_p Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 most of them blow up & the majority are shite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wez_p Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 open up the bonnet on any & i bet it still looks like a bargain basement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 0-150 in 12.6 sec http://www.geocities.com/rtarry_uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 most of them blow up & the majority are shite? They are shite when they blow and unfortunately the majority of them do blow up My cossie view is founded after racing countless numbers of sierra cosworths on private test tracks on the roll and at drag strips in various cars and watching each one have smoke bellowing out of the engine bay or back. I remember one pulling up beside me @ Santa Pod when I had a 200SX, got ready to launch, revved the nuts off his car and then it just when pffffft and stopped, the lights went green and I was either too distracted or laughing too much to launch my car. Jamie is right though - too many of them have been ruined by 1990s bleed valve chavs (al la renault 5 gt turbos) who have no idea on how to tune them and just whack the boost up and hope. They are also very agricultural and flimsy cars when compared to japanese build quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wez_p Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Rod also has a 200 shot of nitrous to help him along & has spent 9 years upgrading every part of his engine! that's not really your average project! like i said earlier, we have loads round here & they are always having work done to rebuild or replace, then for a little while they are rapid again - there are a couple who have got big power & have been running reliably for a couple of years now apparently i share your cossie view hadyn, but you've still got to be pissed off losing to one if it happens, even if it's the week before his rebuild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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