View Full Version : Custom subbox design: TAKE 2
Right lads, my other thread became cluttered.
I spent most of saturday and today, on it, still not finished.
This is the master mould im making, this is the bottom section which will fit in the gap between the boot and rear seat.
It has taken a lot of effort to get to this stage, it will take a further 2 days to prep it smooth, then i can take the master mould from it and start making the top sections to house the SUBS,
This will fit straight in when you remove the foam thing in your boot,
hope you can understand the pics
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6936/sub14di.jpg
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4111/sub29dt.jpg
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1295/sub39fr.jpg
http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/3842/sub41wf.jpg
Extended and curved front to give a better look when complete, more volume too.(clears spare wheel)
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4741/sub59tc.jpg
A whole lot of filler and sanding to go,
Comments on a postcard, lol:d
Ruff_Rider
05-06-06, 21:01
Lokks good so far. Currently fibreglassing myself, getting the filler out tomorrow. Might employ someone to do the sanding, or train a monkey. Monkey sounds cheaper!
Can you apply filler straight onto the fibreglass or does it need roughing up first? Do you know if it's best to apply 2 layers or 1 thick one in areas that need deep filler? Might just give up and get the resin out again tomorrow.
just use plastic padding, or fibreglass filler for larger gaps. that stuff bonds to fibreglass like the dogs,
its always good to sand before applying the filler anyway, your be able to see the gaps
Just a thought, but what kind of volume (i.e. cu. ft.) are you designing them at?
Whitesupraboy2
05-06-06, 21:34
Si its looking great mate :thumbs:
you'll be able to spray them i take it to match body work colour?
sooper-supra
05-06-06, 21:37
looks good so far
enough to run a sub.....
look at
http://www.wickedcas.com/store/images/supra1x10.jpg
the guess work has been done in america:D ,
.65-.75 Cu ft.
Si its looking great mate :thumbs:
you'll be able to spray them i take it to match body work colour?
i would like to, i dont have a compressor or the equipment or skills to offer my self.
i could try to finish in leather/vinyl but not sure how that would shape around the contours in one piece.
might be easier to get sprayed by someone you know.
ill post some more progress pics in a couple of days time.
And it looks like were finally getting somewhere,
the old pics prob look like a load of mess,
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8099/sub66uy.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/4999/sub75oj.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1889/sub81km.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7453/sub95zf.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/826/sub104ea.jpg
hope it now looks more clear
:)
Away on hols for a week tomorrow,
cya lads when i get back
enough to run a sub.....
.65-.75 Cu ft.
is that not a bit small for most subs? most sub require a 1cu ft or 1.25.
with a smaller box it might give better spl but will take away the sq from the sub. but to small and it will not sound good a all.
I agree with your post but i believe the design is supposed to be a compromise to allow full rear boot space while also allowing the use of a sub.
well. i got that from the supraforums site.
if you like i can measure the internal volume when its complete,
if you dont want one, thats fine. ill just build for myself, lol
i think the volume will be large. have you seen the space in the boot this takes up?
Go remove the foam thing in your boot and have a look, as well as the box will have some hight to it once the top section is complete
si
Si,
Don't forget those sub boxes were also designed to allow the roof to sit in the boot, you could quite easily make the top section rounder and large to accomodate a sub which needs more volume.
Just a thought anyway ;) It looks good so far.
fair enough just pointing it out incase it was something that was over looked. but fair enough likes like it will be a nice bit of 'glass work once finished.
is that not a bit small for most subs? most sub require a 1cu ft or 1.25.
with a smaller box it might give better spl but will take away the sq from the sub. but to small and it will not sound good a all.
Other way round, bigger boxes with ports for SPL , smaller boxes for tight sq bass. Every new sub nowadays works in a small box it'll be fine! :p
like you said. the better quality subs need air capacity.
Right, an update.
i finished the sanding to make the intial mould, i then decided to make the master mould from fibreglass straight off that.
i did this but the resin went off too quickly.
so didnt have time to cover it, plus it was hard to remove it.
So now im going to make a 2 part master mould using plaster, that way it will come apart easier.
lol
Right, an update.
i finished the sanding to make the intial mould, i then decided to make the master mould from fibreglass straight off that.
i did this but the resin went off too quickly.
so didnt have time to cover it, plus it was hard to remove it.
So now im going to make a 2 part master mould using plaster, that way it will come apart easier.
lol
Have you altered the catalyst to resin mix as it is warmer now and that will make the resin go off quicker ?
Are you using a releasing agent on the mold that will help it to release better,but i use aluminium foil and masking tape and it releases quite easily.
Sounds like it is coming on nicely. Keep us posted on your progress.
well, it came off with nothing sticking to it, but it may have a slight undercut somewhere which means a 2-part mould would be ideal.
its a large area to cover, i tried adding little catalyst as but when adding little before on another projectthe thing didnt go off.
it should be ok once i get the plaster mould done, lets just hope that can last.
ill go take some pics now
part of the destroyed mould attempt.
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/7220/s13mq.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6360/s27ng.jpg
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7475/s31ze.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/783/s42ys.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8718/s53ao.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5796/s62zj.jpg
prob need to show how it sits in the car
You said you wanted pestering to keep you at the build - so come on 4 days later, is it finished?
lol,nope
just waiting for delivery on the plaster. and i think im going to make it a 4part mould so i can get it out.
yep keep pestering me
hello lads,
plaster is here.
and poured, just waiting for the plaster to set, if i get it out in one piece is another thing.
if this method doesnt work, ill find another way.
as im not just about to dropkick the mastermould i spent so many hours on, lol
ill post some pics later today, i hope it comes out in 2 halfs
Mould is out, but broke in a couple of places, can be pieced back together to make the moulds, however it becomes a little fiddly and can need repairing each time.
http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/4650/plaster27ha.jpg
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5175/plaster42ro.jpg
Think im going to let it rest for a little while, and talk to a speacilist about making a rubber/silicone outer mould. that way it will come out easily.
mould pieced together again
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6782/plaster35ni.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/138/plaster15pb.jpg
:( :) :p :d
oh how i try.....just wait a little longer:search:
supra matt
02-07-06, 20:11
looking good mate ill buy one off you when there done . And can spray some for you to if needs be lol
sounds good about the spraying.
you can see what im trying to do,
i think when i sought the a rubber inlay for it, the production can begin.
its kind of a learning process the expensive way for me at the moment.
im effectively making this bottom part,
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/1434/supraboxback8cy.jpg
apart from ive rounded the front out to add more volume (clears spare wheel if you wish, and the above doesnt have a recess underneath for the 2 wires coming up through the boot to sit into,
and will look like this,
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9045/supraboxsub2small8zm.jpg
Whitesupraboy2
02-07-06, 20:37
got any idea on weight Si...im slow enough :blush:
lol james, its all fibreglass. dont have an idea on exact weight, but it sure wont damage your speed that much.
the master mould i have is made up of lots of foam, fibreglass, plastic padding and filler, and that is light.
im not going to chuck in the hammer as ive spent to much time and money, lol
ill be back
here is how it sits in the boot,
http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/9287/boot42hn.jpg
used part of the original foam block
note, this is the wire that comes up from the boot, not sure what wires they are, but its under the foam thing
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4281/boot19hx.jpg
the wire sits under the groove and therefore isnt mushed, lol
just drops in,
http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/2333/boot23sv.jpg
and if weight is an issue james surely its in the best place, over the rear wheels,
front curve
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6691/boot35uj.jpg
mould is still covered in wax, lol
Whitesupraboy2
02-07-06, 20:57
looks good, i like the way you keep the boot and spare wheel....cant remember if you said but do you reckon aero top owners will be able to get the roof in the boot still?
im not going to try, unless someone offers a aero-top which i can take measurements from.
ill just make sure it clears the top seat, glass window, and more than likely fit under the rear boot visor so it isnt seen to public joe, i.e window smashed and stereo nicked
I have sent you a quick pm Locky.
Where are you going to mount the amps for the set up?
I believe those wires goto the ABS sensors.
Could you make the mould out of concrete so that it didn't split?
Where are you going to mount the amps for the set up?
where ever you like, lol.
Could you make the mould out of concrete so that it didn't split?
think that sounds like a bad idea, lol
im going to invest in some rtv silicone,on £70 for 5litres, lol
and make a rubber inlay with fibreglass outside.
si
order for rtv silicone is placed. my student overdraft is ouch, lol
someone employ me, please
yes thanks, colin.
mind you, didnt fancy buying from them. they were more expensive, lol
free advice
yes thanks, colin.
mind you, didnt fancy buying from them. they were more expensive, lol
free advice
Absolutely, get the advice where you can.
Hopefully you can get this project to a conclusion now and recoup some of your costs.
Absolutely, get the advice where you can.
Hopefully you can get this project to a conclusion now and recoup some of your costs.
yeh that, lol
dont want to add it up.
so are you making a few of these to order locky?
if so, im game, let me know how much ull be after :)
Will be looking to house a 12" alpine typeR but if it's 10" only, no problem.
Ric.
so are you making a few of these to order locky?
if so, im game, let me know how much ull be after :)
Will be looking to house a 12" alpine typeR but if it's 10" only, no problem.
Ric.
yes, will be making a few.
you have pm
Very interested in 1 of these as well! been trying to think of a way to get a sub in the back all day without losing too much boot space, that box looks ideal!
should be,
i should have the bottom base out this week.
ill keep everyone posted as usual
Sub_Culture
11-07-06, 18:33
Just a thought.... Might be worth taking an amplifier into consideration. Your design looks great, very space-savery, but what about an amp? Seems like someone will put that in, look very neat, then nowhere practical for the amp. Perhaps you could design a mounting board for the boot too for it?
Andy
id probably put something in the right hand side, and remove the foam,
thing is that everyone uses different size amps for there needs
Sub_Culture
11-07-06, 18:42
I know, but still something to take into account perhaps? Just an idea. Good luck!
Andy
Pester pester pester pester - PULL YOUR FINGER OUT! :d
scotspower
13-07-06, 13:12
I would also be interested in 1 of these, tho i need to be able to fit my aerotop lid in aswell. Just not enough Bass in the car at present.
I would also be interested in 1 of these, tho i need to be able to fit my aerotop lid in aswell. Just not enough Bass in the car at present.
if you could kindly take some measurements, then no probs.
rob davey wants the areotop one as well, so i just need some reference points to work from with the roof in the boot,:)
Thankyou
si
i would be keen on 1 as well :d :d
why are we waiting la la la la la la.....
Would you like me to send round my granny to help you do this? I beleive she has made 5 boxes for various cars in the OAP home while you've been slacking!
lol, sorry, first time using silicone, and it cost me £80, so dont want to waste it, measurements have to be 0.01g correct.
plus i have been repairing the master after that plaster attempt.
i have been sanding the patern using wet and dry, and have sprayed it a nice ORANGE:) ,
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1637/o1fv2.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/8803/02cq2.jpg
http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/1822/03hp6.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1774/04wd8.jpg
http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/1508/05ip8.jpg
the reason being so i can laquer it, so that the silicone doesnt bond to it, also helping to get it smoother than it was,
thing is the laquer has to be left to dry, so i guess ill just move onto cutting out mdf rings ready for the top sections.
i also looked at how the base fitted in the car, and decided to round off the corner parts, because it doesnt hit on anything and will make the moulding a whole lot easier, due to less corners
Thanks Rob, do you like orange!!!
si
Why don't you see if some nice fellow on here has a lathe and could spin you off a batch of rings?
That way they would be perfect and make the moulding of the top part a lot simpler?
supra matt
20-07-06, 21:00
looking good mate
although he said to leave the laquer 7days to set, i think ill try the silicone the weekend, while everyone enjoys jae, lol.
used a heat gun a bit.
thanks matt
yeah yeah lockys :) im still waiting for a date when i can get mine :) :D
looking nice mate
Ric.
no one believes me anymore,
believe you?
Ive still got cash waiting for one :)
Ric.
got to do another 2 layers me thinks,
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5808/a1ni4.jpg
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4356/a2sm4.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/940/a3br4.jpg
then add some keyways, and then fibreglass over the top for the outer casing.
;)
Whitesupraboy2
23-07-06, 18:37
do u cover the box in wax first so it will come out of the mold easier? or use lard or something?
or is there no need?
no need, thats why i laquered it first.
the silicone doesnt stick to plastic like sufaces.
the excess i had left in the bowl, just came straight out
looking good mate cant wait :)
I have today finished off half off the fibreglass casing, its a very messy job, and the resin goes off really quickly in this heat.
i finished using all the silicone yesterday, and added small keyways so the when moulding, the sides wont flop in when moulding.
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/4920/c1lo3.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9608/c2on1.jpg
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/5183/c3wt3.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9509/c4vy2.jpg
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/3593/c5cl5.jpg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4145/c6tg6.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/4430/c7ye6.jpg
i am nearly out of resin, so im going to have to order some more,
another 25kg barrel here we come.
just need to finish the other half, and use some large washers with bolts to hold the outer casing around the silicone moulding, not long:innocent:
to some of you, it may look like im making a giant cake!
mmm, i love the cake
ill keep you posted.:) si
Alter the amount of catalyst you are adding, that way you will have a little bit more work time.
Its looking good, how many layers do you think you are going to add to each box ?
needs to be about 4 layers,
probably going to lay some gelcoat in the center, that way if the resin does go off, it will still come out as 1 piece.
so finished the other side,
now just got to drill the bolt locations and then we can see what its like inside
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/2473/d1ke6.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8585/d2ia5.jpg
ouch, my back hurts,
i feel old:rolleyes:
lets wait too see the smooth inner silicone,
silicone is out, yay it looks great.
will have a go at the first moulding tomorrow.
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3046/e1xh4.jpg
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1045/e2wu4.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/5818/e3oc8.jpg
you can see how it fits in the 2-part fibreglass casing, without it, its like a load of jelly, just need o trim up the edges as well.
coat the silicone in gelcoat, lay in some matting, remove fibreglass casing, remove silicone,
AND OUT SHE POPS!!:)
minta mint, so when can i get mine? :)
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5421/f1zh3.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7190/f2gi5.jpg
will prise it out tomorrow, and see what we have.
seems like the new batch of resin takes a long time to go off..
now this is progress! well done fella.
I must say your workshop in the background looks immaculate ;)
Did you get money for the placement of the Coca Cola logo given how many people are following this thread?
Hee hee, have PING GOLF sponsered you as well?
it needs a bit of patching up with some easysand filler.
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/7167/f3er1.jpg
but im sure it will get better with practice as everything.
im going to try another today using the fibreglass tissue i have
ok, so it seems you have the base. Good work. How are you going to finish off the rest of the enclosure?
Looking good, the top should be very easy for you now, have you got some old fleece material and wooden dowel rods + MDF for the rings ?
i have 8 sheets of 18mm mdf cut into 11" by 1metre, ready to cut out some mdf rings.
and i have 4metres of cotton lycra fabric, which is very stretchy
bought a glue gun today as well
i have 8 sheets of 18mm mdf cut into 11" by 1metre, ready to cut out some mdf rings.
and i have 4metres of cotton lycra fabric, which is very stretchy
bought a glue gun today as well
Good stuff,:d are you going to keep the top the same shape as the original design ?
Are you going to have the top ready to be painted or left semi rough and then let the customers decide on what they want to do with them e.g cover or paint ?
Sorry for all the questions, im just inmterested in this sort of project :)
it will be very close to the original one, but as i have made mine with a curved front on it, it will be slightly different.
ill propbably leave it down to the customer to finish, not sure how smooth ill be able to get them, but ill try,
it is a lot easier if its only a carpet, or viynl finish there after.
i think it will need slight prep before paint, but nothing a bodydhop would have trouble with
I think you are right to leave it to the customer as to get the top to a good enough finish to paint would probably be a couple of days on each if you did it yourself at home, but a bodyshop could get it done in a fraction of that time.
Keep the thread updated with pictures please mate :)
yep thats what i think, leave it to the pros,
will do colin,
im just about to try some fibreglass tissue insted of the matting
Put me down as being another interested party, excellent work and fun to follow the thread :)
now this is progress! well done fella.
I must say your workshop in the background looks immaculate ;)
Did you get money for the placement of the Coca Cola logo given how many people are following this thread?
lol rob,
thats part of the workshop lol, left it there to dry, in the shed.
part of storage is the garage, where there is fibreglass matting is all over the place, and the garden looks like a bomb has gone off, lol
and no, the placement on the coke can didnt come into thought,
if you look close, you can see a Maver fishing seatbox,lol
Right, whats this PROGRESS!:p
just tried some fibreglass tissue insted of the matting, and from recomendation of calayst to use from nick at tomps.com(thanks), it seems to have worked 70% better than the last one i did yesterday when using the matting,
the only downside to using tissue fibreglass is that it trys to stick to your hands,
the first one i did is on the RIGHT in all the pictures, you should be able to see a lot of holes/air gaps in the finish which isnt good,
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/46/h1mr5.th.jpg (http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=h1mr5.jpg)http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/462/h2tb6.th.jpg (http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=h2tb6.jpg)http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2041/h3uz1.th.jpg (http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=h3uz1.jpg)
PLEASE CLICK TO ENLARGE.
and now look at the LEFT one in all the pictures, the tissue has bonded well with the gelcoat, but is soo thin, but i will pop it back in the casing and lay some proper fibreglass matting to give its strength,
the one on the RIGHT will not be used,
thanks to my bro for helping out, its good to have 2 hands, one laying tissue, the other using the resin.
you may see some vein like finish in the gelcoat, its just where the resin came through, however it is still smooth.
My aim tomorrow, is to make another 2 bases, so it will give me some to crack on with
si
ok, so it seems you have the base. Good work. How are you going to finish off the rest of the enclosure?
suspend the mdf ring with small dowl/pieces of wood,
glue gun will be fine,
stretch cloth over the top of this, apply resin and it sets, trim edges, cut out hole for speaker, remove dowl suspenders,
lay matting on the inside edges to bond the 2 layers together, lay matting on the top layer, then mix filler with resin to coat top.
sand and fill,
Just outa interst was this what it was going to look like?
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/Smithaldo/subbox.jpg
If it was then I'd definatly be interested in taking one off of your hands once you've got them sorted.
very similar mate, check my base, it comes out slightly more at the front with a curve
Will you be making any provision for terminals or will this be down to the buyer to sort?
yes terminals fitted on back
thanks to my bro for helping out, its good to have 2 hands, one laying tissue, the other using the resin.
I think its a massive achievement for Locky and his brother to get this far considering they only have one hand each :d
yeh, and my bro has only just started to help this week with fibreglass laying,
to think i did all that with 1 hand, amazing huh:p
:) , my back lol....
today, i didnt lay 2 more casings.
i decided to pop back in the thin tissue one i did yesterday, and laid up 3 layers of 450gram matting, using a total of 3kg of resin, 1kg for each layer.
so they will be 3 layers plus the initial tissue layer.
here is first one, its probably around 6-7mm thick.
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/8797/j1fp3.jpg
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2538/j2cd8.jpg
the bottom section does not have to be 100% smooth, although close, its only the front section that is visible when placed in the car.
notice my stash of MDF for rings under the box...
here is how it sits in the boot...
http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/4913/j3hg2.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2619/j4al8.jpg
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5084/j6ai6.jpg
and compare the one made in america:
http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/58/supraboxtop2yy0.jpg
Mine:
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/3982/j5cu5.jpg
there is the difference.
i will be on the ball again tomorrow.
my aim to cut a ring out and suspend it, cut out the cloth and trim, then resin. and show you guys the shape.
si
Does it still fit in without removing the carpet or does the carpet have to be out the way?
Ignore me
which part?
2 hands:)
Does it still fit in without removing the carpet or does the carpet have to be out the way?
ill go show you.
some people have cut there carpet on the supraforums to just show the top of the sub,
yes you can cut it,
fold it over.
i know some peeps wont like to cut there rear boot carpet, but its only a small cut.
here:
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2892/2s10supraqb0.jpg
folded under
;)
leaving a gap.
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=31927&stc=1
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=31928&stc=1
http://www.ttbomb.com/supra-pics/stereo10.jpg
although i personally prefer the cut, and tuck under as you want to see the curves of the box
you dont have to cut it,
you can just fold it back
which part?
2 hands:)
I said something stupid and managed to remove it before anyone looked :innocent:
[QUOTE=Rob Davey]I said something stupid QUOTE]
I'm always doing that.
By the way, I'm very impressed with the progress on the enclosure. Do you have a rough idea of the volume you'll end up with?
[QUOTE=Rob Davey]I said something stupid QUOTE]
I'm always doing that.
By the way, I'm very impressed with the progress on the enclosure. Do you have a rough idea of the volume you'll end up with?
the american one was around .75 Cu ft,
but we will see what it comes out as when complete
for example:
The Alpine 10" Dual-Voice-Coil 4-Ohm Subwoofer Model: SWR-1042D
Requires 0.6-1.25 cu. ft. sealed; 0.5-0.8 cu. ft. vented
the american one was around 75 Cu ft,
but we will see what it comes out as when complete
75 cuft ! Wow thats massive :d
Its looking very nice, you could offer the option of an amp rack moulded out of fibreglass where the curved section is, extending down in to the boot.
lol, think i just changed it when you was going to post, lol
im never sure, as people use all sorts of different amps for the job, all kinds of sizes,lol
well i cut out a ring today,
tried it in the car against the lower subbox, and fiddled around a bit.
needed to cut the lower section a bit so the the ring fits in.
hot glue guned the ring in place, suspended the rear part of the ring.
then stretched the fabric over the box/ring, and glued in place.
have no pics as yet, as just about to finish and got hot glue on my thumb, ouch.
ripped it off straight away, and away came some skin.
so i am now typing with one hand,
or does that leave me with no hands at the moment, lol
supra matt
04-08-06, 19:54
nice one mate your doing very well . all be worth it im sure think of all the money your going to make ;)
Whitesupraboy2
04-08-06, 19:56
heres a deal, my new supra aint coming to a meet till you completed this... hopefully that will speed you up a bit! :D
nice one mate your doing very well . all be worth it im sure think of all the money your going to make ;)
dont know about that, each one takes a lot of time to make and material.
i think the price will be £150 shipped to your door
or £130 for collection
heres a deal, my new supra aint coming to a meet till you completed this... hopefully that will speed you up a bit! :D
ok, so if i finish one your come down to soton to meet me? yay.
anyway, really got to see you car, its huge:)
Whitesupraboy2
04-08-06, 20:08
ok, so if i finish one your come down to soton to meet me? yay.
anyway, really got to see you car, its huge:)
like a date :taped:
I really dont want anyone to see it till ive sorted the bodywork as it needs the work doing, good news is at moment i dont need to worry bout stones :D
like a date :taped:
I really dont want anyone to see it till ive sorted the bodywork as it needs the work doing, good news is at moment i dont need to worry bout stones :D
yes a date james;)
god how sad are you.(you cant see my supra again, as it has a chip)
its the tight gaps that you used to get through is what you need to think about:d
:p
Whitesupraboy2
04-08-06, 20:15
(you cant see my supra again, as it has a chip)
it has a little more then a chip lol :p
yeh ive been judging roads to work, one is gonna be very tight!!
Ive decided id like 19"s of wheels i got on the car as well...money money money.
I need to sell my NA
that will lower your car a bit,lol.
i meant my car, im not driving it anymore as it has a chip.
well ill see if my car survives goodwood on monday
supra matt
04-08-06, 20:22
that will lower your car a bit,lol.
i meant my car, im not driving it anymore as it has a chip.
well ill see if my car survives goodwood on monday
you doing a track day then mate? it you need and painting done just give me a shout;) . do a deal on a sud box maybe lol :d
here is my 1-handed photo skills, lol.
clothed
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9071/l1td8.jpg
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9453/l2nd4.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2951/l3sf6.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9647/l4lk1.jpg
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1971/l5zu5.jpg
rear view, rod added so that back is tight against seat
http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/2356/l6jb5.jpg
coments welcome:)
supra matt
04-08-06, 21:21
what can we say but a BIG WELL DONE MATE looks tops
thanks, hope to get on tomorrow, depending on how many thumbs i have left
Nice, now stop fooking your hands up and get building :)
What size are you making the hole for out of interest? 10inch or 12 inch?
Looking really good, I can't wait to see what it looks like, I've been putting off building my own to see how yours turns out :)
10" mate,
i think a 12" will never fit, its tight ass , lol
initial resin applied to cloth, then 2layers of fibreglass tissue
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/3791/m4ul8.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8710/m1zy6.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4043/m2ui8.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6140/m3fe6.jpg
Getting there mate. Looks good.
just added another layer of tissue,
going to trim edges next, cut out sub hole,
then lay thicker matting on the inside to bond the 2 surfaces and ring in place.
then i have to mix some resin with bodyfiller and then coat the outside
Whitesupraboy2
05-08-06, 11:08
mate your doing great job, how heavy is it going to be?
well. the base used up 3kg of resin.(not sure if it absorbs the whole weight)
and the top probably 3kg
and some filler.
so it should be under 10kg, but its a lot lighter than mdf:d
EDIT: (just put it on the scales, its just under 5kg at current state)
so will be around 8kg
cut out sub hole, trimmed up edges.
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1935/m7mt9.jpg
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/2434/m8ni3.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3697/m9xe3.jpg
need to lay fibreglass inside to bond the edge,
its tight in some places
i tried to angle the box to take the alpine type-r sub(old style) i have,
it fitted before, but because i layed the matting on the inside, it just doesnt fit my 4mm.
here is a pic of the sub layed in the box:
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/985/n3so0.jpg
the type-r sub is one of the largest/heavy 10" sub, and has a fair sized lump of magnet on it, it can be tackled by fitting a slight spacer bracket.
anyway, it will still fit a load of other subs, and this is the old type-r series i used, so im not sure if the new 10" type-r's have different dimensions.:d
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6954/n1oq3.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1415/n2ml1.jpg
enjoy, i think i have done a lot of work today!!!
i can adjust the the next one i do on the mounting point, but its so chunky that sub
ok checked the alpine website, the new alpine type-r is a no-no.
its nearly 20cm deep.
anything under 160mm depth should be fine,
alpine type e/s fine.
not many subs are as chunky, do not mention x-type, that thing is huge
Hi all and mainly Ric,
i really do need an orbital sander, hand sanding is fun.....not:)
here is the box with another layer of resin/filler mix:
http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/1781/p1fb2.jpg
the box is nearly reading Ric,
nearly there pics:
http://img427.imageshack.us/img427/699/p2bf4.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/2882/p3rf7.jpg
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/9486/p4ka7.jpg
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8493/p5fr9.jpg
just have to clean up the edges, and a little more primer and wet and dry.
Also i need to cut the hole to install the binding post, any preference to which side on the back it is? left or right.
si:)
looking sweet mate, pm :)
yep looks great, worth all the work :thumbs:
thanks dan,
did you want one;)
Ok the next one is allocated to: michael
bit too subtle for me mate, but i can appreciate a good job done
Excellent work. Its come out looking very nice indeed. Given me some inspiration too.
i tried to angle the box to take the alpine type-r sub(old style) i have, it fitted before, but because i layed the matting on the inside, it just doesnt fit my 4mm.
Don't forget that you can mount a sub 'face in' so that the magnet is facing forward.
This will have two benefits
1, it will increase the air volume of the box as the magnet and speaker mass will not be taking up space inside the box
2, the size of the magnet on the back is no longer an issue as mounting depth is not needed
But this setup will probably foul an aero top roof :(
http://www.callister.tv/escort/sub%20box%20no%20light.jpg
finaly finished your box, ported and primed.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2031/hpim3874zb3.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8936/hpim3877di9.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9435/hpim3878ol5.jpg
:)
would look so good trimmed in alcantara,
im sure the funky gibbon bros can do it, they love supra's
just up the road from he, however, im sure it will cost the price of the box, lol
:cool: Well done fella they look spot on, so what sort of cost are you looking at knocking these out at ?
Could you also sell just the base section ?
yes i could just sell the base, if someone wants to make something themselves
im selling the full boxes for £150 delivered, (i must be stupid, hey)
it takes me 5 full days to finish 1, lol
and each box uses £40 of materials, £20 delivery.
that leaves me with £90 for 5days work,
me needs a job.
please add me to the list.. PM sent with a few questions..
would be great if you could fit a 12" infinity 1250 sub.
im sure when the similar american one was made it was determined that a 12" sub wouldnt fit, and ive had a look, and dont think i can make a 12.
the only way i can think of with this base is to always have the rear seat folded down, because you want to leave access to the spare wheel.
here are some pics of how tight the 10" fits against the rear seat,
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8533/hpim3882yw9.jpg
seat open slightly showing how box fits
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/510/hpim3880qu8.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8784/hpim3881lo7.jpg
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/990/pxf2.jpg
LOL!!! The post room are going to love that one :)
well you know what they are like
LOL!!! The post room are going to love that one :)
Looking forward to the review... :)
it might be a while before it actually gets trimmed up and installed but I'll be sure to review the item once it arrives :)
Excellent work and thread !
thanks,
fogot to add, they weigh only 6.5kg.
hope not to slow anyone down
When you do V2.0 can you incorporate a rear strut brace? I feel so dirty taking mine out so that I can get better bass ;)
what strut brace you got?
yeh, defo will have probs making it clear a rear strut brace,
its tight as it is
Not a problem at all, I'd rather hear bass :)
stick it back in when you do some track-days
My amusingly wrapped parcel arrived today as promised, finally managed to get it open and I'm very impressed the finished article, looks even better than in the pics and it's much more solid than I expected - if you are vaguely interested get yourself on the waiting list!
Now I just need to trim it, choose and buy a sub & amp and then fit it along with my speakers, should be quite a nice upgrade when it happens :)
thanks for your kind words mic,
i think i should buy some haribo next time, to hide with each package.
didnt know if it would get to you ontime, the delivery guy said it may be longer due to parcelforce grounding planes this week, lol
cant wait for installed pics and feedback,
yes it is very sturdy, and only 6.5kg.
It does look great and i am still interested, just bit of a problem with the old cash-flow, same old story. Looks an excellent product though!
no problem danny, ive got 4 to make, will keep making them
Whitesupraboy2
14-08-06, 20:56
My amusingly wrapped parcel arrived today as promised, finally managed to get it open and I'm very impressed the finished article, looks even better than in the pics and it's much more solid than I expected - if you are vaguely interested get yourself on the waiting list!
Now I just need to trim it, choose and buy a sub & amp and then fit it along with my speakers, should be quite a nice upgrade when it happens :)
this is like 100 positive reviews if michael is happy anyone will be happy (meant in nicest possible way mate ;) )
why, is he a hard guy to please,
hehe lol
Whitesupraboy2
14-08-06, 20:59
why, is he a hard guy to please,
hehe lol
michael tells you how it is! which is great when buying something.
i try to do they same, im a genuine honest guy
Whitesupraboy2
14-08-06, 21:02
i try to do they same, im a genuine honest guy
I've met you remember :p no pulling wool over my eyes :D
really, what did i say mate?
Whitesupraboy2
14-08-06, 21:26
only jokin mate, dont worry you didnt say anything. make sure you've got one installed in your car at the next meet.
i will, if you tell me when it is?
we need a new one soon, some great sup's in bournemouth
here is a quick list for next inline
1. smithaldo
2. fahrenheit
3. imi (depending on shallow 12" fitment)
have a shorlist of others
Woohoo, I'm next. Get in... ermmm, now to try and get an amp and sub sorted.. lol
no viens or air bubbles in this one,
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8199/p100zt1.jpg
http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/4977/p200rg7.jpg
:)
looking good mate :thumbs:
that was bloody quick :D
nice work
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/5201/p009ji8.jpg
one has 1layer of matting inside and the othe 2layers,
they need to be 3 layers before i start the tops.
i use around 3.5kg resin for each base and the same for top.
im running out of resin yet again, around 4kg left
so will have to order another 20kg barrel monday
dunno why i chose to sell these this cheap:( :search: lol
hey bruv,:)
yours is coming along nicely,
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9046/p012zf4.jpg
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8195/p013hg6.jpg
will hope to finish and get sent out to you this friday.
i have ordered another 20kg barrel of resin,
it goes so quickly
nearly done,
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/7043/p014ay0.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8043/p015jx1.jpg
just need to do some wet and dry, then lay some thick matting on the inside to bond the 2 layers,
and fit terminal.
hope i can meet you somewhere halfway,
i know its 45miles to yours:)
p.s: IMI, if i get delivery of new resin friday, ill start on yours the weekend:)
that looks fantastic
regarding mine
sounds good buddy, let me know if you are happy with the dimension of my sub....any questions, discussion points then feel free to call me, PM sent with phone number
Impressed! Would be rude not to invest in one of these, you still doing these Locky? ;)
pm, and change ure avatar
Are you not impressed with my aviator trick, it goes down well at the local:haha:
robert_gray
17-09-06, 13:36
If the subs were mounted with the magnet facing out would there be enough air inside this for two 10" subs? and would you be interested in building one as i have got no idea when it come to fiberglass?
Fahrenheit
24-09-06, 14:48
Locksy Nice touch is all i can say, box is in wired and piercing eardrums. I went along to john kleiss in reading showed them the box and voila an Orion sub with accompanying Orion amp. Neded to make small mod to the mounting ring but she went near enough straight in. Desperately need to get a load cover now though for the full stealth effect. Will stick pics up later
u got any pics fahrenheit
Mine was due to go in next week along with a few other bits and pieces but the company called earlier to say the fitter is ill so I have to wait another week :(
Mine is gloss black now, will hopefully get some trial fit pics up soon as I need to put it in to trim the carpet. I went for a JL 10" and matching amp, fits like a glove but it's nice to hear from someone who has theirs making noise as well :)
thanks, for the nice words,
now where the pics, glad its making some nice sounds, as i dont have an amp sub myself to test.
you and michael should count yourselves the lucky ones for getting one, lol
yeah, i must be the unlucky one as I am the next in line :(
at the moment i need to take a holiday to make one
It doesn't get fitted properly until Monday but I was doing a bit of carpet trimming and things so had to do a test fit, it seemed like a suitable time to balance the sub in there and take a couple of quick pics for the thread. I'm still not 100% decided on the finish for the box but for now it's astral black.
(Excuse the dirty carpet, it was sold to me as being 'mint' but it will have to do for now)
That looks wicked. Very stock-like.
That looks wicked. Very stock-like.
I like it, it's subtle - I'm just wondering if it might tone it down even further if I cover it with matching carpet, maybe when it gets a few marks on it.
Looks great Mitch :kewlpic: kind of wish i'd bought one now while i had the chance.
This looks an awesome mod.... have just taken out my 10" JL sub box out of my boot to reclaim the space for my spare wheel and now I'm looking at other options.
Is this going this a one off or are more available to sell ?
Shaun.
Whitesupraboy2
01-10-06, 11:28
I have to say that looks great, you've got to be happy with it!
Had any sound out of it yet Michael?
Had any sound out of it yet Michael?
Not yet, it's going in tomorrow for a the speakers replacing, amps, sub being put in properly and a bit of sound proofing here and there, couldn't be bothered to do it myself.
wow, thanks very much Mic.
that looks ace. looks better than i thought id would, i want one sprayed for my self!!!
how did you go about the carpet?
you could always get some heat shrinking vinyl, but i must say it looks the dogs.
think i should have sold them for at least £250. a lot of work them
I have to say that looks great, you've got to be happy with it!
Had any sound out of it yet Michael?
Fahrenheit has posted the results, in the thread, he thinks its rather good.
he was going to post pics of his fitted, just he is a little slow, lol
ive only made and sold 2 to date.
This looks an awesome mod.... have just taken out my 10" JL sub box out of my boot to reclaim the space for my spare wheel and now I'm looking at other options.
Is this going this a one off or are more available to sell ?
Shaun.
in a way, yes its a one off.
but the mould is in my shed at home, i have no-time to make at the moment.
really need to make a couple for owners allready,
naming imi
wow, thanks very much Mic.
that looks ace. looks better than i thought id would, i want one sprayed for my self!!!
how did you go about the carpet?
you could always get some heat shrinking vinyl, but i must say it looks the dogs.
think i should have sold them for at least £250. a lot of work them
Glad you feel I've done your item justice :)
Carpet is just hacked up, I bought a carpet with a hole for a standard sub and then cut the hole bigger, the spare carpet tucks down the side of the sub enclosure to make it really tight.
Now that I have mine I think you should double the price ;)
double the price i think i should.
remember it takes 5days solid to make 1. lol.
to buy a custom made product like this, when all you have to do is hook it up and spray etc, is so cheap.
i dont know how i came up with the price, ha
in a way, yes its a one off.
but the mould is in my shed at home, i have no-time to make at the moment.
really need to make a couple for owners already,
naming imi
OK cheers mate. Shame as I'm sure that you could find a lot of people who would be interested but I understand that 5 days work is a bit much for one guy.
Shaun.
yes. i could sell another 10.
just need some time
Perhaps you could finish them to a slightly lower standard of finish, perhaps not sand them so much. Then let the customer decide if they are going to spray them, and finsih to the standard they want or cover them.
Perhaps you could finish them to a slightly lower standard of finish, perhaps not sand them so much. Then let the customer decide if they are going to spray them, and finsih to the standard they want or cover them.
Yeah i agree, i'd buy one at the same price but of a lesser finish for sure!
Now fitted and producing noise - very, very nice indeed. Ideally I need to try a few better CDs in the car but I'm really impressed, chuffed to bits :)
glad to hear mic,
thats 2 out of 2 satisfied customers, lol
i want one.
i need a holiday to make them
shame Fahrenheit hasnt posted pics still
fits like a glove doesnt it!!
...... a good fitting one that is
Indeed it does :)
I'm going to add a bit more padding around it and then stick it down so it's really, really snug - I don't want it hitting me on the head if I stack it :)
lol.
anything on the bottom section, where it isnt seen.
one thing id like to know still is if that would cover the areotop?
oh, and mic.
with the rear seat fixed in normal position, there is no physical way the subbox can come out.
(think thats right)
you need a rear blind
Spot on, it won't come out with the seat in position, I'd forgotten about that :)
Rear blind is in the garage, what I really need is my new hatch so that I can get some more soundproofing on.
That looks wicked. Very stock-like.
Yeah thats a very tidy install :thumbs:
trimmed in carpet, i couldnt get round to how good the base sounded, saying it is one thing, but hearing it for yourself is another,
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7554/p054ei3.jpg
its so pure and crisp. none of this panel rattling, cant hear anything and crap sounding lol,
I WANT THAT ONE:d
That looks great, can you put me on the list please? i definatley want one now.
I understand you don't get much time any more but if you happen to get the sack or quit or something then i'll definately take one :)
lol, yeh, so does everyone lol.
im keeping the mould. its just i think it will be better to make them summer time as its hotter, and lighter at night, so i could do a bit after work etc
I fully understand, and the resin goes off so much quicker when the weathers warmer, keep me in mind though as i will take one when/if you do any more.
i will do more, trust me. lol
im sure ure still be here in the summer with your trial kitted beast
i will do more, trust me. lol
im sure ure still be here in the summer with your trial kitted beast
That's the plan :)
cheers mate.
kornboy119
15-10-06, 18:52
hello everyone, this is a great thread, lockys96 great work. I was just wondering how much you would charge for building a 10" box.
trimmed in carpet, i couldnt get round to how good the base sounded, saying it is one thing, but hearing it for yourself is another,
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7554/p054ei3.jpg
its so pure and crisp. none of this panel rattling, cant hear anything and crap sounding lol,
I WANT THAT ONE:d
Looks great.....excellent finish.
carpet will look fine, its just hard to stretch, an you must cut it somewhere on joinline.
i had ure subbox in my car at the meet imi. showed some peeps the beast.
hello everyone, this is a great thread, lockys96 great work. I was just wondering how much you would charge for building a 10" box.
price was £150.
revised price is £170 as its so much work
i had ure subbox in my car at the meet imi. showed some peeps the beast.
You pimping my sub-box, you bitch :D
sure am, just not doing another 12" lol
RobSheffield
15-10-06, 19:32
sure am, just not doing another 12" lol
So, let me get this straigght...
Imi's 12" was just too much for you to handle?
:rlol:
Sorry!
yep, i knew someone would say that,
ill stck to 10" please, easy to handle
So, let me get this straigght...
Imi's 12" was just too much for you to handle?
:rlol:
Sorry!
UPDATE:
http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?p=1135198#post1135198
anyone fancy making some of these?
lol, ure a funny guy.
think there is only one person in the uk making them
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