Supra Guide and Model Differences Chart

[mawby]

Here is my revised version of Aerotop Dave's Guide to the Supra and his Model Differences Chart. I have converted them both to PDF format to make them more web friendly. The Model Differences Chart is attached to this post and contains details of which models and variants have which features.

The club would like to thank Dave for his efforts in creating the original documents.

[mark poulton]

I Have Just Read The Guide To The Supra Models And Very Informative It Is To, It Must Have Taken You Ages-- A Credit To You, Cheers.

[Rambo73]

That's a great!:) It really helps us potential newbies:search: :d

[Pabs]

Yep - agreed - just been reading and excellent stuff there! thanks!

[RHD]

Really usefull info! Thanks!

[denzil]

A great read. Certainly convinces me to buy a supra. Just a little worried about buying a duff one, any advice or help?

Denzil

[Bobsarny]

Ill print out both of the pdf files and carry them with me whilst viewing potentials, excellant info for someone like me cant thank all involved enough.

[crossfade]

the pdf's were great have just finished reading them and have made up my mind to get the 3.0 na but i would like to know what mpg i can expect to get for both heavy and light foot action with thanks

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[Mas]

Thanks mate what a nice job, very useful specially for new supra owners like me :D

[RobSheffield]

guys, good of you to post your thanks, but with regard to questions, best to start a new thread

[lust2luv]

Looks like a lot of hard work. A few comments:

SZ-R aerotop? Surely not? The whole point of the SZ-R is that it's manual only and lightweight, so why would they make a heavy auto aerotop?

Also active spoiler and fold in wing-mirrors are options on the SZ-R, cause I've got them.

Hope this helps

:looney:

[Faye]

Looks like a lot of hard work. A few comments:

SZ-R aerotop? Surely not? The whole point of the SZ-R is that it's manual only and lightweight, so why would they make a heavy auto aerotop?

Also active spoiler and fold in wing-mirrors are options on the SZ-R, cause I've got them.

Hope this helps

:looney:

I've mentioned the aerotop thing a couple of times before (well actually to anyone who will listen and then ignore me ;)) mine and a few others are SZs only. I too thought that the SZ-R was the spritely version.

[MarkTheBoy]

Thanks very much for the hard work that went into the supra guides!! Thanks to them I didn't feel like such a newb when viewing Supras.

Just found myself a beautiful black auto GZ TT with everything I wanted on it and I pick it up on Saturday.... Can't wait!!!!!!!! :yahoo:

[supraaaaaaaaaa]

my god ive got a headache now but a great read and may expalin a fair few things and myths that i ahd to ask !! and now iknow what a bpu is !! :)

[Jez]

Fantasic Guides
I think everything is clear now just waiting for the brain to cool down after reading it all

Many Thanks for the hard work

[carl0s]

Quick typo to point out.

Unusually the turbos are sequential - usually with a twin turbocharged setup a V6 engine is used with one turbocharger feeding one back of cylinders..



feeding one bank of cylinders


Not being pedantic, just trying to help improve it.

[mattyd]

used your guides to buy my new supra this week 94 n/a j spec auto. Thanks helped a lot!!!

[imi]

Really good read....excellent job.

[Miller95Supra]

So if "N/A" is SZ, SZ-R & SZ-R Aertop,

And "TT" is RZ, RZ-S, RZ-S & RZ Aertop. . .


THEN WHAT ARE THE "Single Turbo" Models called?

~ ZZ Top? (-:
--------------

(seriously though, anyone know?)

[Ian R]

So if "N/A" is SZ, SZ-R & SZ-R Aertop,

And "TT" is RZ, RZ-S, RZ-S & RZ Aertop. . .


THEN WHAT ARE THE "Single Turbo" Models called?

~ ZZ Top? (-:
--------------

(seriously though, anyone know?)

There not, all single Turbo's are modified from TT's so there original model code would be as you have quoted above not forgetting the GZ as well.

Or they are Na-T conversions and the same would apply

[Skarsnik]

In regard to the JDM:

* The 'facelift' import started in 96.5 not 97.. and in 97.9 the VVTI engine was introduced, actually the JDM went through quite a few minor changes up to and possibly past 98, but generally they 'facelift is considered to have started in 96.5.
* I've seen a late model JDM SZ-R with traction control.
* The 6 speed / big brakes / wheels was standard fit on the SZ-R in 96.5, not sure when they stopped this wierd version, but it was before 99.
* The JDM SZ-R does not come in aerotop.
* There are 3 types of "JSpec suspension", normal, bilstein and REAS. Off the top of my head REAS was introduced in 98.
* The 'Facelift' imports (SZ, SZ-R, RZ-S) had a new design of cloth seats, not black leather.
* Fold in mirrors were on the 96.5 SZ-Rs, so I would also assume RZ/GZs.
* There is more complexity to the abs systems. But I don't have set dates on when what was introduced.
* Steering wheels. Early model, 3 spoke == no airbag, 4 spoke = airbag. Sometime after 96.5, not exactly sure when: 3 spoke is introduced with bumps above the thumb points and have airbags, RZ models have a carbon fiber finised 3 spoke with airbags. (N.B. The late model steering wheels are alot better).
* There is no JDM VVTI SZ or SZ-R

[geordie_liam]

excellent, well worth a read now i definitly want one!!

[Ian Hayward]

In regard to the JDM:

* The 'facelift' import started in 96.5 not 97.. and in 97.9 the VVTI engine was introduced, actually the JDM went through quite a few minor changes up to and possibly past 98, but generally they 'facelift is considered to have started in 96.5.
* I've seen a late model JDM SZ-R with traction control.
* The 6 speed / big brakes / wheels was standard fit on the SZ-R in 96.5, not sure when they stopped this wierd version, but it was before 99.
* The JDM SZ-R does not come in aerotop.
* There are 3 types of "JSpec suspension", normal, bilstein and REAS. Off the top of my head REAS was introduced in 98.
* The 'Facelift' imports (SZ, SZ-R, RZ-S) had a new design of cloth seats, not black leather.
* Fold in mirrors were on the 96.5 SZ-Rs, so I would also assume RZ/GZs.
* There is more complexity to the abs systems. But I don't have set dates on when what was introduced.
* Steering wheels. Early model, 3 spoke == no airbag, 4 spoke = airbag. Sometime after 96.5, not exactly sure when: 3 spoke is introduced with bumps above the thumb points and have airbags, RZ models have a carbon fiber finised 3 spoke with airbags. (N.B. The late model steering wheels are alot better).
* There is no JDM VVTI SZ or SZ-R

I dont think they stopped the 6 speed SZ-R before 99 as I have one and its a 2000 reg.
Also my SZ-R has the carbon fibre steering wheel and black leather, and the fold in mirrors.
This might not be normal but they were not bought after the car.
Maybe I just got a strange one!! lol

[brettjones]

great job is so clear to understand many thanks

[Richie-Supra-R]

great read, cheers for all the info! ;)

[Newschooler]

Something I'd like to understand.

The NA supra is actually a j-spec car? Then why can we see alot of NA supras that are left hand drive???

Also what is the diameter of the discs on the NA one.

I'd like to get a more complete technical specs list on the supra.

Good job tho, I've learned alot.

[Jake]

The NA supra is actually a j-spec car? Well the NA was never sold in the UK. All the NAs in the UK were imported from Japan and are JDM spec. I don't know about the NAs in North America, maybe the NA was an official model over there?

[Bobbeh]

Yeah it was a US model. They had the VVTi NA model too.

[Newschooler]

I see, thx.

[lust2luv]

3,539 NAs sold in the US (not sure if that includes Canada).
7,700 TTs by comparison, almost all aerotops.

:looney:

[supra_si]

great read, very useful, many thanks. now all i have to do is choose. brilliant

[supradriver]

:D its alot too read lol but worth it i cart wait too finish all me BPU:d

[dive-inme]

Hi guys, I am just a little confused with
the Aerotop thing, i mean parently all of them
are autos, if anyone remember from FAST AND FURIOUS
the orange Aerotop Supra was Manual ????::blink:

Also is it possible to change the tranmission from Auto to Manual

if yes then how much are we talking in US DOLLARS ?

Supra Fan..

[mawby]

The orange Supra in F&F was also an NA when it rolled into the garage. ;)

[supradriver]

:rolleyes: u can change it over hear is some parts u will need The Parts.
To do this swap, you'll need a few parts:

Transmission
clutch disk
flywheel
pressure plate
pilot bearing
throwout bearing
shifter
inner/outer boots
clutch cylinder
clutch lines
slave cylinder
power train frame
speedo cable

i dunno the cost sorry

[XID]

I just bought a na from Jap. Excellent review. I wanted a TT but now I'm happy with what I got. Question. How much will it cost me to get rid of the horrible 'fog light' and get the fogs to be part of main lights? How much to have an 'English' dash board and to derestrict from the snail top speed (112mph).
Thanx Guys
XID :)

[Masenko]

Isn't it like £600 to convert from auto to manual? I'm not too sure...

I know that the derestriction chip will set you back around £70, check out Thor Racing :)

C~

[vchiko767]

This would be Great if it can be done with a car of the same engine.

"The Toyota Aristo"

[iikun]

Here is another similar link to Supra info, this is a car catalogue put together by a Japanese company called 'Goo'. Has a lot of hard to find info, plus interesting stuff like original factory prices, gas mileage etc. All in Japanese, but if you put the URL into a translator like Altavista then most of it comes out fine (if u can ignore the strange spelling some of the time)

http://www.goo-net.com/catalog/TOYOTA/SUPRA/index.html


Also, Im in agreement with Lust2luv, my SZ-R also has elect. mirrors..possibly its factory stnd?
A lot of people on this forum seem to mistakenly think SZ-R is a base model, but 'R' usually designates some kind of performance model for Japanese cars. eg. Integra type-R, Silvia Spec R, Skyline GT-R, RX-7 type R. Supra SZ-R is the same, thats why it has Bilstein sus, LSD, etc. Also, I believe that there was no SZ-R aero-top, at least not in Japan anyway.

If anyone is interested I also have Toyotas list of recommended wheel sizes & offsets for the Supra. Is only for factory suspension tho of course...if you lower it sizes will change. Email me & I can send it to you.

[SweetCherryLove]

Ta for the info.

:love:SCL:love:

[carl0s]

Here is another similar link to Supra info, this is a car catalogue put together by a Japanese company called 'Goo'. Has a lot of hard to find info, plus interesting stuff like original factory prices, gas mileage etc. All in Japanese, but if you put the URL into a translator like Altavista then most of it comes out fine (if u can ignore the strange spelling some of the time)

http://www.goo-net.com/catalog/TOYOTA/SUPRA/index.html


Also, Im in agreement with Lust2luv, my SZ-R also has elect. mirrors..possibly its factory stnd?
A lot of people on this forum seem to mistakenly think SZ-R is a base model, but 'R' usually designates some kind of performance model for Japanese cars. eg. Integra type-R, Silvia Spec R, Skyline GT-R, RX-7 type R. Supra SZ-R is the same, thats why it has Bilstein sus, LSD, etc. Also, I believe that there was no SZ-R aero-top, at least not in Japan anyway.

If anyone is interested I also have Toyotas list of recommended wheel sizes & offsets for the Supra. Is only for factory suspension tho of course...if you lower it sizes will change. Email me & I can send it to you.

That's an interesting site, although the text is difficult to read when translated and makes it hard to see the actual changes from year to year, but it does confirm some dates we thought (facelift cars in April 1996, but no vvti by then).

Do you read Japanese iikun?

[ilogik]

thanks for a great read :)

[roscopeeko]

Hi,

I am just now in the market for a Supra and am new to this forum, your intro to the supra and guide to the specs was extremely helpful!

Cheers!

Rosco

[knukks]

can anyone give me the wireing code for the sterio

[sky7ine]

thanks for this m8 great guide

[han]

i'm a newbie so please don't laugh. what does jza80 stand for and ma71 stand for? I have searched but couldn't find. Also is vvti better? what are the pros and cons?

[carl0s]

JZA80 is the mk4 model designation/code. MA71 is the mk3 turbo model code for America. (was MA70 here).
VVTi is better.

[wilder9au]

Thanks appreciated :)

[Nic]

Useful colour guide

http://paul.webmaster-eye.de/Farben/farben.html

[carl0s]

Useful colour guide

http://paul.webmaster-eye.de/Farben/farben.html

Super Bright Yellow? Paint code 576, 08.1998-2002
http://paul.webmaster-eye.de/Farben/gelb.jpeg

Well I never.. did you?

I didn't realise gunmetal was called Grayish Green Mica Metallic either.

[Guigsy]

yeah i went into toyota to buy something the other day anf it came colour coded. yellow was one of the options.. i was like WTF!

[CoolsBlue]

Super Bright Yellow? Paint code 576, 08.1998-2002
http://paul.webmaster-eye.de/Farben/gelb.jpeg

Well I never.. did you?

I didn't realise gunmetal was called Grayish Green Mica Metallic either.

:drool: thats supra is perfect!!!! yea i first saw a yellow supe on a gran turismo game irrc:Dwas a stock colour option when you went to buy it

[carl0s]

:drool: thats supra is perfect!!!! yea i first saw a yellow supe on a gran turismo game irrc:Dwas a stock colour option when you went to buy it

I don't like it actually. It's a bit pale for a yellow sports car.