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Dragonball
28-01-03, 23:37
Hi guys

Just a quick one - have just replaced my hoses with new SVH - all appeared OK - but tonight noticed it a bit 'sluggish' and doesn't feel like 2nd turbo coming in

SBC-ID only shows me up to max 190 HP - a sure sign

Anyone any guesses on where I should look tomorrow?

Any hints?

Cheers

Paul

dude
29-01-03, 00:11
Paul
i think i'd look at the hoses again , thereagain those neons dont half sup some power .
John:flame Dev

Terminator
29-01-03, 00:23
Personally I don't like silicon hoses as silicon is naturally very slippery stuff. You will need to ensure all clips are done up tighter that the stock rubber hoses and you would be advised to put clips on the smaller bore hoses that did not need them with stock rubber hoses.

You will just have to check all the new joints.:(

dude
29-01-03, 09:02
a guy came in when i was fitting my FMIC and told me to put some hairspray on the joints before sliding the hose on .
John

MONKEYmark
29-01-03, 09:12
i put stork margerine on my hks intercooler hardpipes as it was a pain in the ass getting them rubber hoses on once you put them on they would not move to slide in position. second time i fitted them i thought margerine inside blue hoses
worked a treat and made sure they were very tight with screws. never had a mins bother with them

STORK margerine tip for today

dude
29-01-03, 09:17
Mark
spark plug covers are coming along nicely .
John:looney:
PS your pm box was full the other day.

MONKEYmark
29-01-03, 09:24
Originally posted by dudersvr
Mark
spark plug covers are coming along nicely .
John:looney:
PS your pm box was full the other day. nice one john. no rush cars off road a while. taking forever doing this polishing.will be worth it in end will look good.will have to look round for some blue silicon hoses.seen a pack in america for $25.just wrote to mvp about a level 2 torque convertor 4000rpm stall.

i will have to cross my fingers mine will start up after all bits i have took off it.

have fun


ps the turbo problem the topic starter is having maybe its just a loose hose double check they are all on and in right places
hope you get it sorted

THOR Racing
29-01-03, 09:33
If it's hoses and 2nd turbo then I always check the tiny little hose connecting the VSV to the exhaust bypass actutor. It's about a 4m pipe, so tiny but can leave you without any 2nd turbo spoolup.

Look at the exhaust, follow it back to the engine, you see the O2 sensor. further up is a mechanical valve and actuator arm. Follow this arm to the actuator and check the pipe from it to the VSV, which itself is located close to the front of the engine with the boost control VSV.

Regards
Pete

Dragonball
29-01-03, 09:51
Originally posted by TRL Performance
If it's hoses and 2nd turbo then I always check the tiny little hose connecting the VSV to the exhaust bypass actutor. It's about a 4m pipe, so tiny but can leave you without any 2nd turbo spoolup.

Look at the exhaust, follow it back to the engine, you see the O2 sensor. further up is a mechanical valve and actuator arm. Follow this arm to the actuator and check the pipe from it to the VSV, which itself is located close to the front of the engine with the boost control VSV.

Regards
Pete

Thanks Pete

So the wrist bone's connected to the arm's bone, the arms bone connected to the ect ect...

Not a clue where this is - but basically my kack handed attempts can effect the spool up!

back to the drawing board!

Cheers

Paul

Ian C
29-01-03, 10:01
Paul,
Have a look at
These nice pictures (http://www.mkivsupra.net/resources/turbopipes/index.html)
For a guide as to what you are looking for :)

2nd and 3rd pictures show the plumbing to the exhaust gas control valve.

-Ian

Nathan
29-01-03, 10:15
Originally posted by MONKEYmark
i put stork margerine on my hks intercooler hardpipes as it was a pain in the ass getting them rubber hoses on once you put them on they would not move to slide in position

The best lubrication we have found by far is caburettor cleaner. (yes, no jokes please..;)

It makes it real easy to get pipes on and it evaporates quickly so that you are left with a nice dry relatively high-friction joint.

Oil, grease, WD40 or indeed margarine isn't the best solution... You must have done them up very tight Mark!

Cheers

Nathan
TDI PLC

Oh, and no other real help on the thread as others have already said it....sorry Paul..

Dragonball
29-01-03, 13:08
Yeah - back up and boosting!!

Thanks to Pete and Phil - who were both correct

Tiny 4 mm connect had come away deep under the bov area - need to get a good connector on it that wasn't required by the stock tubing

Thanks for the link to the other pics m8

Cheers

Paul

Steve W
29-01-03, 22:12
THANK CHRIST FOR THAT..... ! !

I was gettin' worried with all the talk of 'lubrication' and
'hairspray' and even 'Stork Margarine'

all highly suspect topics......:conf:

MONKEYmark
29-01-03, 22:31
Originally posted by Nathan


Oil, grease, WD40 or indeed margarine isn't the best solution... You must have done them up very tight Mark!

Cheers

Nathan
TDI PLC
they were as tight as scrooge pre christmas day :)
never had a mis bother with them.first time i fitted i used nothing and jeez they were a tight fit.

MONKEYmark
29-01-03, 22:32
Originally posted by Steve W
THANK CHRIST FOR THAT..... ! !

I was gettin' worried with all the talk of 'lubrication' and
'hairspray' and even 'Stork Margarine'

all highly suspect topics......:conf: more like a dirty mind hahahaha

Steve W
29-01-03, 22:39
:p

.......... :sly:

....................:moo:

Terminator
30-01-03, 00:31
What about KY Jelly?????:sex:

dude
30-01-03, 09:33
Back in the summer i went into a chemist in Brighton (the gay capitol of europe) and asked for the largest tube of KY they had (need it for diving to get in to drysuits) and wondered why i got some funny looks , then realised it was the day of the 'Gay Pride March' through the town .
John:flame Dev

Terry S
30-01-03, 09:53
Originally posted by dudersvr
Back in the summer i went into a chemist in Brighton (the gay capitol of europe) and asked for the largest tube of KY they had (need it for diving to get in to drysuits) and wondered why i got some funny looks , then realised it was the day of the 'Gay Pride March' through the town .
John:flame Dev

You forgot to finish the story.......were they sold out!

Nathan
30-01-03, 09:58
Originally posted by Terry S
You forgot to finish the story.......were they sold out!

I bet they were clean out of Amyl Nitrate for sure.....:eek:

Nathan
TDI PLC

dude
30-01-03, 21:21
got a good source for amyl , they never run out .
John:looney: