black cat Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 boost controller..... full de-cat.... restictor ring.....fcd...... oh babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy:ecstatic: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Nice, What boost level will you use the restrictor ring for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 time to get a neck restraint to, 1.2bar is gonna flick ya back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 duno... was gona let greg sort it. what do you recomend?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 duno... was gona let greg sort it. what do you recomend?? if the budget is there i'd persoanlly go for 1.0 bar restrictor and use a boost controller to increasae it thereafter, point you have to note is that its winter and the ambient temperature is alot lower now than in summer, so you might have it set up for e.g 1.2bar now and when summer comes you might be peaking at 1.1 or even lower as it alot warmer then. hth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 duno... was gona let greg sort it. what do you recomend?? I recommend restricting the car to 1.0 bar and using the Boost controller (electronic?) to take it 1.2 when you fancy a play.... If you have 1.2 bar all the time, you get use to it and it'll become boring again! I normally have my EBC switched off. I switch it on for the extra boost and it makes the turbos spool quicker and earlier in the rev range. I think having the option to switch boost gives you more enjoyment out of the car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 if the budget is there i'd persoanlly go for 1.0 bar restrictor and use a boost controller to increasae it thereafter, point you have to note is that its winter and the ambient temperature is alot lower now than in summer, so you might have it set up for e.g 1.2bar now and when summer comes you might be peaking at 1.1 or even lower as it alot warmer then. hth i have 2 settings 1 low 1 high, or is that not how it works......... i dont know..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 great minds think a like..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 if you dont know what your doing TBH, i would get the person who is installing it all to set it up how you want, i assum you have FCD 'fuel cut defence' which will make sure you dont overboost and cause damage to the engine. once set up yeah, you could have two setting for two different boost levels, or you could simply turn the EBC 'boost controller' and run what ever your restrictor ring allows you to, and when you want to play turn it on and select your boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 ok guys that sound good, will the full decat not give me alittle extra aswell?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 yeah, a bit too much actually due to the J spec having small wastegates, which is why you would need a restrictor ring to keep the boost at safe limits i.e 1.2bar or below, you might want to uprate your fuel pump as a safety precation, jap spec pumps are not usual up to the job, this will stop the car from suddenly running lean at the described boost levels as jap spec pumps may not cope with the higher demand in fuel at higher boost. (may stand to be corrected) HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Will full decat you will overboost. Hense the restrictor ring to keep the boost safe! most have it at 1.1 or 1.2 bar then your boost controller can adjust that. (up only) Fuel cut would be at 1 bar but your fcd will eliminate that! edit too slow. And yep. Def need a fuel pump if your gunna do the job properly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 ok guys that sound good, will the full decat not give me alittle extra aswell?? Yup, you don't really have to have a boost controller on a J spec. Full decat will make upto about 1.5 bar boost which will fry your turbos! So that's where the restrictor ring comes in. This limits the boost to what you want. So you can save cost on a EBC and have permanent 1.2 bar boost. The de-catting not only gives extra boost but makes the turbos spool a bit quicker and earlier in the rev range e.g. second turbo comes online at 3800-3900 rpm instead of 4000. And makes your car sound like a beast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 looks like iam in for a fun time, or death:badidea: the controller is just for playing plus it has a blue screen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Enjoy and be carful. I found it a totally different car and LOVED it! Slippery slope though, you will be single before you know it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 looks like iam in for a fun time, or death:badidea: Mate if you are moving from stock boost to double de-cat/1.2 bar it will feel like a rocket has been strapped on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 Mate if you are moving from stock boost to double de-cat/1.2 bar it will feel like a rocket has been strapped on! what type of hp can i expect???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 you lucky lucky boy Good luck and have fun mate, BUT for fcuk sake, take it easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 you lucky lucky boy Good luck and have fun mate, BUT for fcuk sake, take it easy. i allways take it easy, i only managed 165 to date. mind u id only had it a week:badidea: .................... had the aerial up and it broke:rlol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 what type of hp can i expect???????? This varies fom car to car but at a rough guess 80 extra on the flywheel (I hope I don't open up a can of worms!) Don't forget colder grade spark plugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 This varies fom car to car but at a rough guess 80 extra on the flywheel (I hope I don't open up a can of worms!) Don't forget colder grade spark plugs nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.............. what else??????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Sorry for the news fella, have a look at this: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=38389 You should definitely get a boost gauge too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 Sorry for the news fella, have a look at this: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=38389 You should definitely get a boost gauge too! iam not gona brake it am i. what will the boost gauge do. will the standard thing do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 iam not gona brake it am i. what will the boost gauge do. will the standard thing do? I think the facelift stock boost gauge (if it has one) only shows negative and positive boost but not levels??? Boost gauge will show you exact boost in Kg/cm2, bar pressure or PSI. The good ones have 'Peak hold' so it remembers the maximum boost the car made. Boost gauge helps to keep an eye on the turbos e.g. if you are over boosting and helps with diagnostics if you have boost/turbo related problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 I think the facelift stock boost gauge (if it has one) only shows negative and positive boost but not levels??? Boost gauge will show you exact boost in Kg/cm2, bar pressure or PSI. The good ones have 'Peak hold' so it remembers the maximum boost the car made. Boost gauge helps to keep an eye on the turbos e.g. if you are over boosting and helps with diagnostics if you have boost/turbo related problems :sos: over my head now....... ill talk to greg and lower the levels i think. its gona sound beastly though. will it shoot flames and melt my bumper??? it dos have a boost gauge but yes its only + and -. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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