Mike B Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 My Old man has a very mint '99 GTR34. Poor thing was loaded onto a flatbed today after one of the turbo's expired. He'd taken it to a tuners and they had decatted and raised the boost to 1.2. I know nothing about R34 tuning and assumed the tuner would (mentioning no names). Rod Bell (the guy who is dealing with it now NOT the original tuner) told us that, like sups, when you decat the RB26 the stock wastegates are too small and the poor girl exploded. Feel sorry for my old man... put your faith in what seems a legit tuner and find out they know less than you. Still waiting to see if there is any more damage, but it's a hefty bill on the way... At least with the help of forums like this we have have the knowledge to avoid this - you guys told me about this during one of my first posts - thank you!! He should have done the same on the GTR version.... some tuners though - something like this is basic stuff - they should know better and in my opinion are making money by ****ing up your car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letmeshowyou Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 don't suppose you'd care to share who it was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 im thinking people will ask you to name and shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 That's not a good story Hope they don't touch Supra's as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Does the said tuner only have 3 letters in it's name ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Sounds like a trainer. And when the car first came back it had a bare metal scrape on the bonnet that was not there before - and they said NOTHING! The car is immaculate - 23,000 miles! nice guys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Hiteq? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 We need to know. 1.2 Bar in A R34 is NOT good at that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_M Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Too many specialists around that seem to know feck all when it comes down to it. Tell him to join up with the guys at GTROC for advice. Some top guys on this site who really know their stuff about the Skyline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Come on boys - yopu must guess from that! not reebok, nike, remember back to the old days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Hiteq? Well done that man!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 How much to repair? Any quotes yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Too many specialists around that seem to know feck all when it comes down to it. Tell him to join up with the guys at GTROC for advice. Some top guys on this site who really know their stuff about the Skyline. That's where we got an unbiased advice to get the prob sorted. Abby sounded to smart for the own good and RB motorsport were beyond helpful and they also run a very quick R32 so I understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Oops sorry for your Dad. Lets hope Rod doesnt find any major stuff and she will be up and running soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 How much to repair? Any quotes yet? Depends on the damage, it didn't really go bang, and sounds ok at idle. PM will be conducted to see the turbo and then a compression test. fingers crossed for him- he just got a tax bill too!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letmeshowyou Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 RB motorsport were beyond helpful and they also run a very quick R32 so I understand. yeah its just a little quick lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Sorry to hijack Mike, is your dad in the area? What colour's the GTR? Not the lovely white one that's around here is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Thats not good Mike. Regards, Gaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 its black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 Black metallic. Not as quick as Sup, even when it was running 1.2 bar (self destruct setting) but increadibly tight and reactive to drive. Has all the oversteer fun of sup, but without the back to front nature. Has virtually no lag at all - but is miserable on fuel - and living every day with it - it's really ugly! no pride in the design of the thing - makes me laugh when people call them taxi's - it's a bit harsh on the taxi drivers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 As far as I know the (ceramic) R34 turbos max out at 1.1bar and then you're in no man's land. If boost couldn't be regulated properly then it probably went over 1.2bar, hence the tears. Live and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 As far as I know the (ceramic) R34 turbos max out at 1.1bar and then you're in no man's land. If boost couldn't be regulated properly then it probably went over 1.2bar, hence the tears. Live and learn. Yeah - You'd thought the turner would have known - If it were my car I would have checked on the forum.. And on the same subject - Hyjacking my own post - Sup ceramic boost levels.. I run 1.1 bar with a big FMIC.. Am I right in thinking you can run 1.2 bar on Jspec turbo's without too much risk...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 Sorry to hijack Mike, is your dad in the area? What colour's the GTR? Not the lovely white one that's around here is it? Yeah - he's local to us - but he doesn't get out in it much - he's had it 4 years and done 10,000 miles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 ... Am I right in thinking you can run 1.2 bar on Jspec turbo's without too much risk...? define "too much risk":badidea: Let's put it this way: if I had a JSpec, I woudn't run it over 1.1 bar. The place is littered with blown ceramic turbos. Why do you think there are all those supras running hybrids and singles? Some survive for weeks, others for months. It's a matter of time (and abuse) when the turbine will at some point dislodge from the shaft. I'd treat 1 bar as the max 'safe' limit. Over that it's pot luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARDA Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 As far as I know the (ceramic) R34 turbos max out at 1.1bar and then you're in no man's land. If boost couldn't be regulated properly then it probably went over 1.2bar, hence the tears. Live and learn. John, not knowing much about liners, is this why a decat has such a bad effect on these engines? Ta Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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