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adi2009
28-10-05, 20:28
Hi,
I'd like to know for sure whether the Getrag V161 gearbox can handle the same amount of power (torque) as the V160. I know Chris Wilson asked that question a long time back but dont think he got a definitive response.

Cheers

adi

Ian C
28-10-05, 21:42
Can't see why not, the only differences is the ratios isn't it?

-Ian

adi2009
28-10-05, 22:54
Ya it seems the ratio's are the only difference??? but since the VVTi engines are weaker than the non-VVTi, i thought that there could be a possibility of some changes in the gearbox which may make it weaker over the V160.

Alex
31-10-05, 10:14
Ya it seems the ratio's are the only difference??? but since the VVTi engines are weaker than the non-VVTi, i thought that there could be a possibility of some changes in the gearbox which may make it weaker over the V160.

WTF?

The VVTi is more powerful as stock (more torque). Your statement makes no sense to me.

The V161 is a change of ratio's for the better IMO as they lengthen 1-4, 5th is the same and 6th is slightly shorter for quicker acceleration.

Ian C
31-10-05, 11:01
but since the VVTi engines are weaker than the non-VVTi

That's a new bit of info, what's the detail on that...?

-Ian

migster
31-10-05, 11:02
Ya it seems the ratio's are the only difference??? but since the VVTi engines are weaker than the non-VVTi, i thought that there could be a possibility of some changes in the gearbox which may make it weaker over the V160.


Same bottom end ...same head bar the inlet VVTi side of things! How dose that make it weaker ?

Chris Wilson
31-10-05, 13:29
I assumed you were talking difference between N/A six speed and twin turbo six speed boxes? I wouldn't assume that the N/A six speed box had the same torque handling ability as the turbo box. If you can get to the right person at Getrag you should be able to get a definitive answer. I'd like to know myself. If you find the name my friend speaks fluent technical German.

Pete
31-10-05, 13:33
If you find the name my friend speaks fluent technical German.
Vorsprung durch Technik

Alex
31-10-05, 13:49
I assumed you were talking difference between N/A six speed and twin turbo six speed boxes? I wouldn't assume that the N/A six speed box had the same torque handling ability as the turbo box. If you can get to the right person at Getrag you should be able to get a definitive answer. I'd like to know myself. If you find the name my friend speaks fluent technical German.


The vvti tt has a v161

adi2009
31-10-05, 19:10
WTF?

The VVTi is more powerful as stock (more torque). Your statement makes no sense to me.

The V161 is a change of ratio's for the better IMO as they lengthen 1-4, 5th is the same and 6th is slightly shorter for quicker acceleration.


sorry, i meant weaker rods.

adi2009
31-10-05, 19:19
I assumed you were talking difference between N/A six speed and twin turbo six speed boxes? I wouldn't assume that the N/A six speed box had the same torque handling ability as the turbo box. If you can get to the right person at Getrag you should be able to get a definitive answer. I'd like to know myself. If you find the name my friend speaks fluent technical German.

But Chris isnt it possible that the later NA's and the VVTi's use the same V161 gearbox, perhaps the rear end is different between the two :confused:

Chris Wilson
31-10-05, 19:33
It's quite possible, yes, but you really would need to either strip the 2 side by side and comaper gear centre spacing, widths and shaft sizes, or ask Getrag, to be sure, IMO.

migster
01-11-05, 00:20
sorry, i meant weaker rods.
Same bottom end ...same head bar the inlet VVTi side of things! How dose that make it weaker ?



Same rods also as non VVTi! :yes:

adi2009
01-11-05, 01:25
Same rods also as non VVTi! :yes:


Oh ok. Thought i saw this come up a couple of times about the VVTi rods being weaker... well anyways, thanks for correcting me.

migster
01-11-05, 01:49
Oh ok. Thought i saw this come up a couple of times about the VVTi rods being weaker... well anyways, thanks for correcting me.

your welcome