terribleturner Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Ok, so i'm going down the AEM route and i think i'm gonna go with a 67. Now in the garage i have a set of 550 and 880 injectors. I'm right in thinking the 880's are the better choice arn't they?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 From what I've read, 550s wouldn't be enough for t67 Chis would be the one to comment for sure though - I'm just trying appear knowledgable by answering first. Have you had a good price for an AEM? Care to share? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 I just had a quick peek on supraforums and theres loads of people running the 61 and 67 on stock (550's) fueling. So not a problem it seems, very interesting. Had a chat with a US supplier who was doing it for a fairly good price. Can't remember what extras i asked for but his words were "a price on the AEM with the required options would be just about $1790", which isn't too bad i don't think. Fancy a group buy Jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 If you want to run a T67 at full chat then you need 650, 680, 720 or 800cc injectors...as you're going AEM you won't have any issues controlling your 880's so I'd use them, though they will be overkill. 550's will just have to be swapped out at a later date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I just had a quick peek on supraforums and theres loads of people running the 61 and 67 on stock (550's) fueling. So not a problem it seems, very interesting. Had a chat with a US supplier who was doing it for a fairly good price. Can't remember what extras i asked for but his words were "a price on the AEM with the required options would be just about $1790", which isn't too bad i don't think. Fancy a group buy Jake Mig's got one for sale atm in the country with an optional extra.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supradibbs Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 so alex given the choice using a safc and 550s would you go for a bl61 or 67 iam currently leaning towards the 61 for the faster spool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 61 for definate on 550's....you'll probably get close to maxing them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 Mig's got one for sale atm in the country with an optional extra.... Cheers Alex Am tempted to sell the 880's now for 800's now. Would the 80's be fine with a 71, not that i would just yet, but maybe in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 800 Hi Impedance injectors from PE will drop into a J-spec which is a real bonus, no resistor pack malarky. 800's should fuel a T71...but you'll have to concider other things too.. A T71 would require dual pumps. Then you've got fuel lines to consider and dual feeds to fit....a bit fat return...Adjustable FPR's....maybe switch to an HKS rail....power is expensive! These 880's you have, what are the specs? Lo-imp, side or top feed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I agree with Alex, I would be very worried using 550's with a 67. As an aside James, I see you run an auto. Have you thought about the power going through the stock box and also are you changing the TC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 As another aside I think the 12v fuel pump mod's only known benefit is to Auto's on a single turbo...so I'd do that mod. (It will make mapping the AEM easier too!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 They are lo-imp and i think top feed but not sure. I'll have to go outside and have a look. Think i'll sell them and the 550's and just get the 800's for the less hassel. The 71 was just a thought for further down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 I agree with Alex, I would be very worried using 550's with a 67. As an aside James, I see you run an auto. Have you thought about the power going through the stock box and also are you changing the TC? Gonna get the RLTC and will end up getting the auto upgraded too. Your running the BL box arn't you Col? Many issues with it or has it been fine?? There seems to be loads of people on supraforums running the 67 through their stock engines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Gonna get the RLTC and will end up getting the auto upgraded too. Your running the BL box arn't you Col? Many issues with it or has it been fine?? There seems to be loads of people on supraforums running the 67 through their stock engines James, I meant the Torque Convertor. I had a 3800 Hi Stall TC fitted as that helped to alleviate the lag problem but does give other issues such as high revving when in town driving stop start. The BL box is superb. No issues at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 Hadn't thought about the torque convertor. Research time me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Those 880's will fit an HKS rail.... Right I'm going to suggest. Keep the 880's - get a top feed rail, like the HKS one. (do check with us that the injectors are top feed before starting!!! Pics!) With the rail in place you'll have fittings for dual IN and single return. All ready for #6 usually (you can probably spec this with some of the rails out there) So dual #6 IN and single #6 return...this means you need a #6 Aeromotive FPR. #8 Fuel line and fuel filter 2x#8 Y's 4x #8 to #6 reducers. 2x pumps with #6 connectors which connect to 1 end of the #8 line in the tank via the #8 Y and reducers. 2x #6lines to run from the rail ends to the engine end of the #8line and it's reduce #6 Y's connector...and in the middle of the #8 main line is the #8 fuel filter. ***EDIT - aparrently you can get the Y with the reducers built in*** So you get dual #6'd pumps linked into a #8line which runs to the front of the car via a fuel filter this then Y's off again to the two ends of the rail.... Then it's a #6return, via the FPR all the way to the tank...I believe you can use the old stock fuel line (rerouted) for this rather than buy extra hose. And like I've said have it all running at 12v perm and use the AEM to control the lot, which it should do no probs. Possible issues...determining of a pump has died.....not sure how to combat this, probably just a case of alarms on the AFR meter and the EGT one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Hadn't thought about the torque convertor. Research time me thinks http://www.bmracing.com/noflash/tech/torque.html HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 When choosing injectors are there any issues with making sure you get ones that have the correct electrical connectors to suit the supra loom connectors? You would want to avoid having to change the loom to injector female connector is poss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 Cheers Alex, very nice write up.I'm aiming for the winter to get this all done so plenty of time for testing the waters with it all. I'll take some pictures in a moment. And thanks for the guide Colin, did you get the precision TC when you got the auto box?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I bought my TC from a member who had gotten it from BL but never fitted it. For a street drivable car, I would not reccomend any higher than a 3800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 When choosing injectors are there any issues with making sure you get ones that have the correct electrical connectors to suit the supra loom connectors? You would want to avoid having to change the loom to injector female connector is poss. Any interest? http://www.sdsefi.com/injectors.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 When choosing injectors are there any issues with making sure you get ones that have the correct electrical connectors to suit the supra loom connectors? You would want to avoid having to change the loom to injector female connector is poss. I'ts quite common for different pig tails to be needed from the standard denso one's. I believe all HKS and RC Engineering injectors's need new ones. And I think you can get them from BL,MVP etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Toyota injector connectors aren't generic, to fit my RC Engineering ones I had to cut off the old ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 Pictures pictures everywhere........ So cure my ignorence. Top or side feed?? It's 50/50 and i'm going top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Geezus are they...rusty? If there are no gauzed apatures on the barrell then they are top feed...this pics are too dark too make out 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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