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A mate of mine has offered me an Alpine sat nav set consisting of ...
1. IVA-D310R
2. NVE-099P
3. Ipod controller
The unit is only 5months old and looks "spanking". It needs a new TMC Aerial (whatever one of those is). It has the remaining 7months warranty and he want £1000 for it. (think he said it cost him nearly £2000 new).
Alternatively I was thinking of a brand new Panasonic AVIC X1R & CDX-P670 6disc changer for £1100.
Not knowing anything teccie about stereos which would you clever blokes go for?
Dale, if you decide to go for a new one, let me model and I'll check prices for you here if you want. Most headunits and DVD plays are a LOT cheaper here.
i'd give Matt Harwood a ring mate (phone call, not jewellery ;) )
RobSheffield
25-09-05, 18:49
i have the 310RB and NVE099
im told the alpine unit has better reguidance corridor on it
Dale, if you decide to go for a new one, let me model and I'll check prices for you here if you want. Most headunits and DVD plays are a LOT cheaper here.
Nic .. get me a price on the models given above please
anyone know what a TMC aerial is then?
The Traffic Message Channel (TMC) is a specific application of the FM Radio Data System (RDS) used for broadcasting real-time traffic and weather information. Data messages are received silently and decoded by a TMC-equipped car radio or navigation system, and delivered to the driver in a variety of ways. The most common of these is a TMC-enabled navigation system that can offer dynamic route guidance - alerting the driver of a problem on the planned route and calculating an alternative route to avoid the incident.
Benefits for users
Updated traffic information, delivered in real time
Instant knowledge of accidents, roadworks and traffic jams
Filtered information only for the immediate route
Information in user's own language
High-quality digital transmission
Europe-wide compatibility of receivers
Free or low-cost services right across Europe
Instant information en route
TMC traffic information offers several advantages. First, it is received via a "silent" FM data channel, which means that users can listen to music or news broadcasts simultaneously with - and without interference from - TMC data transmissions. Second, messages arrive and are displayed immediately, so you don't need to wait for the scheduled traffic news bulletin, or to listen to a specific programme. Also, TMC services are continuous and presented directly to the driver, unlike occasional roadside information services such as variable message signs.
In the user's language
Thanks to TMC receiver technology, users can receive traffic information in their own language. The TMC unit, typically an in-car navigation system, decodes the received traffic information and presents it to the user. Whichever country the user is driving in, he or she can understand the local traffic situation immediately.
Across Europe
TMC traffic information systems conform to a global standard that has been adopted by traffic data gatherers, information service providers, broadcasters and vehicle/receiver manufacturers. TMC information is received via the normal FM radio antenna.
All TMC receivers use the same list of event codes, while the location database (typically on the navigation system map CD-ROM or DVD) contains a country-specific set of location codes for the strategic European road network.
TMC traffic data are already being broadcast in Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, The Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the United Kingdom. Also planning services soon are the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Portugal.
How does it work?
Data related to traffic flows, incidents, weather etc. are gathered from traffic monitoring systems, emergency services, motorists' calls etc., and are collated at a central traffic information centre. They are then passed to the TMC traffic information service provider, who generates TMC messages according to the ALERT-C coding protocol.
What information is included in a TMC message? Standard TMC user messages provide five basic items of broadcast information:
event description, details of the weather situation or traffic problem and its severity
location, the area, highway segment or point location affected
direction and extent, identifying the adjacent segments or point locations affected, and the direction of traffic affected
duration, how long the problem is expected to last
diversion advice, whether or not drivers are advised to find an alternative route.
The service provider sends the coded messages to the appropriate FM radio broadcaster for transmission as an RDS (Radio Data System) signal within normal FM radio transmissions. The TMC data are received by the vehicle radio and antenna, and decoded by a TMC decoder. This reconstructs the original message, using a database of event and location codes, which is presented to the driver as a visual or spoken message.
It takes typically about 30 seconds from the first report of a traffic incident to the traffic information centre until the same information is available in the vehicle.
The user can select the language used to present the traffic information by the TMC receiver, typically a navigation system or car radio. The user can also opt to filter messages, so that only those concerning the immediate route are selected.
New delivery channels are emerging that could carry TMC services, including digital radio (DAB), mobile Internet, paging and GSM/GPRS mobile phone networks.
The Traffic Message Channel (TMC) is a specific application of the FM Radio Data System (RDS) used for broadcasting real-time traffic and weather information. Data messages are received silently and decoded by a TMC-equipped car radio or navigation system, and delivered to the driver in a variety of ways. The most common of these is a TMC-enabled navigation system that can offer dynamic route guidance - alerting the driver of a problem on the planned route and calculating an alternative route to avoid the incident.
Benefits for users
Updated traffic information, delivered in real time
Instant knowledge of accidents, roadworks and traffic jams
Filtered information only for the immediate route
Information in user's own language
High-quality digital transmission
Europe-wide compatibility of receivers
Free or low-cost services right across Europe
Instant information en route
TMC traffic information offers several advantages. First, it is received via a "silent" FM data channel, which means that users can listen to music or news broadcasts simultaneously with - and without interference from - TMC data transmissions. Second, messages arrive and are displayed immediately, so you don't need to wait for the scheduled traffic news bulletin, or to listen to a specific programme. Also, TMC services are continuous and presented directly to the driver, unlike occasional roadside information services such as variable message signs.
In the user's language
Thanks to TMC receiver technology, users can receive traffic information in their own language. The TMC unit, typically an in-car navigation system, decodes the received traffic information and presents it to the user. Whichever country the user is driving in, he or she can understand the local traffic situation immediately.
Across Europe
TMC traffic information systems conform to a global standard that has been adopted by traffic data gatherers, information service providers, broadcasters and vehicle/receiver manufacturers. TMC information is received via the normal FM radio antenna.
All TMC receivers use the same list of event codes, while the location database (typically on the navigation system map CD-ROM or DVD) contains a country-specific set of location codes for the strategic European road network.
TMC traffic data are already being broadcast in Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, The Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the United Kingdom. Also planning services soon are the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Portugal.
How does it work?
Data related to traffic flows, incidents, weather etc. are gathered from traffic monitoring systems, emergency services, motorists' calls etc., and are collated at a central traffic information centre. They are then passed to the TMC traffic information service provider, who generates TMC messages according to the ALERT-C coding protocol.
What information is included in a TMC message? Standard TMC user messages provide five basic items of broadcast information:
event description, details of the weather situation or traffic problem and its severity
location, the area, highway segment or point location affected
direction and extent, identifying the adjacent segments or point locations affected, and the direction of traffic affected
duration, how long the problem is expected to last
diversion advice, whether or not drivers are advised to find an alternative route.
The service provider sends the coded messages to the appropriate FM radio broadcaster for transmission as an RDS (Radio Data System) signal within normal FM radio transmissions. The TMC data are received by the vehicle radio and antenna, and decoded by a TMC decoder. This reconstructs the original message, using a database of event and location codes, which is presented to the driver as a visual or spoken message.
It takes typically about 30 seconds from the first report of a traffic incident to the traffic information centre until the same information is available in the vehicle.
The user can select the language used to present the traffic information by the TMC receiver, typically a navigation system or car radio. The user can also opt to filter messages, so that only those concerning the immediate route are selected.
New delivery channels are emerging that could carry TMC services, including digital radio (DAB), mobile Internet, paging and GSM/GPRS mobile phone networks.
LOL ... f*ck me Ian, thats some reply .... cheers bud :urock:
Dale,
I have the Pioneer AVIC X1R & CDX-P670 6disc changer.
Very happy with it, quality unit.
Also Displays 'vehicle dynamics' - Shows your speed e.t.c - It's accurate as GPS units.
There's a (nav) unit that sits under the passenger seat and has AV inputs. I've put a PS2 slimline in the car :)
A mate of mine has offered me an Alpine sat nav set consisting of ...
1. IVA-D310R
2. NVE-099P
3. Ipod controller
The unit is only 5months old and looks "spanking". It needs a new TMC Aerial (whatever one of those is). It has the remaining 7months warranty and he want £1000 for it. (think he said it cost him nearly £2000 new).
Alternatively I was thinking of a brand new Panasonic AVIC X1R & CDX-P670 6disc changer for £1100.
Not knowing anything teccie about stereos which would you clever blokes go for?
Got an used NVE-099P for sale on ebay if you interested:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alpine-NVE-N099P-GPS-System-original-box-and-manuals_W0QQitemZ5793171225QQcategoryZ67772QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
SupraJames
05-10-05, 23:45
I have the Alpine Unit and it is amazing, the touch screen is easy to use and the DVD playback is awesome. Picked up mine for £800 new and worth every penny. :) But £1000 is a great price, seperatly you are looking at £800 for head unit, £800 for nav unit and around £60 for the KCA 420i I-Pod adapter..!!
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