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This is a discussion section for the users of the Blitz SBC-ID, SBC ID II and Powermeter systems.
Please post any settings and findings in here.
(9-10-05 attached the SBC ID and Powermeter manual to the post - JB)
I have the SBC ID II and the Powermeter.
First off anybody know the difference between the SBC-ID and the SBC-ID II?
Secondly anybody else with the powermeter noticed that if you are in the power/speed reading then the current speed reading is wrong, works fine in the speed only reading...
JB
Dragonball
27-11-02, 13:00
In manual - says that for some reason when in speed and power mode - speed only in KPH!
Paul:cool:
Ahaa, I missed that in the manual. I also have the manual for the SBCID II, its up at Leons I think so I will pick that up on the weekend.
Just need to know the difference between the ID II and the original ID.
Also what settings does everybody run for channel 1-4?
JB
Dragonball
27-11-02, 16:01
Chanel 4 I have as my scramble mode - for about 3 seconds I think - but not on yet till I understand it
But must admit then getting into the realms of incomprehension for me
As I understand it
the set represents the % increase in boost pickup over stock (0=stock, 100=maximum boost)
the gain the % increase in boost response over stock - the manual suggests on actuator type wastegate thingies (as per us) that this is set to only 10/15% above stock
I have therefore chaged mine from Alex's suggestions to the following - as I seemed to have developed a large boost spike on the BHP scale with larger settings
Assuming stock boost=0.8
Ch1 Set=20% Gain=10% (giving max boost of 0.96)
Ch2 Set=25% gain=15% (giving max boost of 1.00)
Ch3 Set=35% gain=20% (gisving max boost of 1.08)
Ch4 - god knows
Have also set the speedmap setting (but may change these)- this I think only on DBCII
0-50mph = Ch1
50-80mph = Ch2
80+ = Ch3
Does this make sense - am I being too conservative in my settings?
Cheers
Paul
:cool:
THESE ARE MY ORIGINAL SETTINGS, DO NOT USE
I need to check my settings but Im sure I run
ch1 - set 10 = 0.8bar
ch2 - set 20 = havent used it yet
ch3 - set 50 = havent used it yet
ch4 - set 70 = 1.2bar
Will check it when I get down to the car later.
My Decat j-spec runs 1 setting only at the moment.
Chl 1 : 30 Set Gain 26. ~1.35bar
Before the de-cat I ran 55 set gain 26. ~1.35bar
Speed map is a piece of P*** to set up...though if you get NO CONNECT then you either have it in MPH or the sensor can't see each other....they have to be nigh on touching.
Paul E, glad to see its working...
AC/WG <- which should ours be on...never have worked that out!!! Paul mentions both in his post! "Actuator type wastgate" does that make it a wasgate or an actuator?
Dragonball
27-11-02, 22:24
Originally posted by Alex Holdroyd
My Decat j-spec runs 1 setting only at the moment.
Chl 1 : 30 Set Gain 26. ~1.35bar
Before the de-cat I ran 55 set gain 26. ~1.35bar
AC/WG <- which should ours be on...never have worked that out!!! Paul mentions both in his post! "Actuator type wastgate" does that make it a wasgate or an actuator? [I]
1.35 is far too high for my liking -I still have 1st cat in - but 1.1/1.15 is as high as I'm going - what are you running as defense against lean fuelling for this boost level Alex?
manual says WG=external wastegate AC=actuator wastegate
Also - note for future people looking this up
DO NOT LEAVE CH SETTINGS ON AUTO!
Actually must tell Justin this - the fuzzy logic doesn't work (as said before)
I've got a MINES ECU which runs a richer fuel map. It's not blown up yet and I've recently checked the condition of the internals and am confident I can continue. I'm pushing it to the MAX...don't go any higher on stock 440's!! Really must remember to check what fuel pump I have.
So we have an actuator wastegate...I'll double check that's what i'm running.
The AUTO function works on singles but not on sequential twins. If Justin left it in that mode then he does need to be corrected to make sure no one else has problems.
Checked my settings (bearing in mind this is on a decat UK spec) and I have
ch1 - 10 gain=10 = 0.9bar
ch2 - 20 gain = 9 (no idea why)
ch3 - 50 gain = 9 (no idea why)
ch4 - 70 gain = 20 = 1.2bar
Powermeter max reading is 420bhp with weight set at 3500lbs
JB
Branners,
I would try 25-30 gain and 50 set....
See how it goes...pick up should be better and not spike.
Dragonball
29-11-02, 08:11
Having problems understanding why my speed map doesn't seem to work - Powermeter bit all connecting and set the bar thingies - but doesn't seem to come on
Any suggestions on what I may have missed to activate it?
Or does the CH value in the digital window not change when on - but happens anyway (if you know what I mean)
Cheers
Paul
Paul,
You have set your CH to MAP haven't you!!????
Press the button on the main screen and turn it till MAP is displayed.
If you don't mean that give me a ring, it'll be faster over the phone.
Dragonball
09-12-02, 20:57
Ok - love the system and seems to be 'playing' very well
Have it set on map
CH1 to 50 MPH 20 set 10 gain
CH2 to 80MPH 25 set 15 gain
CH3 80+leptons 30 set 20 gain
CH4 God knows yet
Warning is set on 1.15 with 10% reduction
This has seen me showing 1.08 max at 290HP
This is deff 'woosy' settings as felt I needed to really get to know the car again - it's so different. Also just reduced the tyre pressures to 32 all round - as felt that it was really 'bouncing about' - feels far more secure now
Question
Chassis HP = 290 (weight 3500lbs and 15% loss)
What figures do this 290 equate to = wheels/engine HP?
Cheers
Paul:cool:
anyone turned traction of and spun the wheels ? The powermeter goes AWOL but remeber it will want calabrating again.
Can you beat 1250 BHP!!!!!
Boost.... very sad but fun!
that explains my 790bhp reading. I assume it was set wrong for drivetrain loss.
Im running a 62 25 on ch4 now and the power seems good without any serious spikes.
JB
Dragonball
13-12-02, 16:40
Anyone any idea on the 290HP chassis figure - what this might equate to?
Cheers
Paul
THESE SETTINGS WORK WELL ON A DECAT UK SPEC. DO NOT USE ON A J-SPEC
I just set my boost controller up for MAP using speed settings and the increase in performance is amazing in the lower gears. I will check what settings I have in there but I think its
CH1 to 20mph set=75 gain=26
CH2 to 40mph set=70 gain=26
CH3 to 60mph set=65 gain=26
CH4 60mph + set=62 gain=26
anybody see a problem with these settings? Even flat out going up the Rickmansworth hill (90lep before hitting the top) it didnt go above 1.2bar.
JB
ive got the pin voltage ranges for the ECM on the turbo/non. for use with the SBC-iD data 1/2/3 inputs:) :) but its in pdf. format so if anybody wants them send a mail/pm.
will the BBS not let you attach the PDF file? If not then I will change it so it can. PDFs are safe documents so having them as attachments shouldnt be a problem.
JB
cheers. might be helpful, most of the info ive got is in pdf.
Hi I'm new around here so hello.
:)
I've been reading how people have set up their boost controller and I am a little confused, I read what settings people had and went out last night at 10:40pm and reset mine.
Talk about running like a bag of bolts!
I'm not saying mine is right as I bought my car with the sbc-id booost controller already fitted & I dont have a manual for it.
Why does it have to be set on manual as all my channels were set on auto?
Some advice please.
Ch1 15% gain=11psi
Ch2 15% gain=13psi
Ch3 15% gain=15psi
Ch4 15% gain=17psi
And I must say it flies it will wheel spin changing from 3rd to 4th gear.
What does scramble mean and how long for 3sec?
It could be set different because of the other mods on my car?
Any way hello
Damian
Dragonball
04-10-03, 21:39
Originally posted by Dable007
Hi I'm new around here so hello.
:)
I've been reading how people have set up their boost controller and I am a little confused, I read what settings people had and went out last night at 10:40pm and reset mine.
Talk about running like a bag of bolts!
I'm not saying mine is right as I bought my car with the sbc-id booost controller already fitted & I dont have a manual for it.
Why does it have to be set on manual as all my channels were set on auto?
Some advice please.
And I must say it flies it will wheel spin changing from 3rd to 4th gear.
What does scramble mean and how long for 3sec?
It could be set different because of the other mods on my car?
Any way hello
Damian
Welcome
manual here m8
http://www.mkiv.com/main/index.html
Basically the auto setting should not be used with the soop - and do you know it's so long ago that this came up that I've forgotten why!!
Anyway - some reason about something pretty damn important as a reason I'd say! (someone will be along to explain)
:p
It was left on auto when someone set mine up (arse!) and I got runaway boost
Once on manual you can then set the levels of 'set' - this being the increase in boost - for each channel
Scramble will give you the high setting of boost when required for the 3 secs specified
Welcome!
:thumbs:
Soonto"HAS"soop
07-12-03, 23:45
How accurate would people say the power rating is (no wheelspin)?
I only ask, as I managed 282 bhp at 8.6PSi tonight, on my newly installed kit (all set up correctly). My limit is at 18 PSi. Is this a reasonable guesstimate or does it tend to be miles off?
Ben..
Is this the right place to ask where you install the power wire on a ukspec supra? on the instructions it says to the seat heater fuse, but ive got heated front seats, any suggestions where to wire it upto ?
Cheers
Chris:thumbs:
Soonto"HAS"soop
09-12-03, 12:09
I plumbed mine into an ignition live that is by the gear stick gaiter. I also used one of the gear stick bolts to earth them as well. The orange wire goes to pin number 2 on the ECU which is the speed sensor wire, seem to remember it being pink.
Ben..
cheers for that ben, going to attempt this tonight so any info helps :)
Soonto"HAS"soop
26-12-03, 16:21
Right, I thought it might be good to put these links into this thread so that anyone else looking at details of these items, have the manuals to browse.
http://www.sqc-ny.com/tech/power.pdf
http://www.sqc-ny.com/tech/sbc.pdf
Ben..
I have those saved to my hard drives in case they disappear in the future.
JB
Soonto"HAS"soop
26-12-03, 19:39
I have them saved on my hard drive also, but one is 450Kb and I couldn't attach it to the forum cos of the 200Kb limit.
Ben..
anyone now the max bar reading for stock turbo's as hitting 1.56bar now. Can I go Higher ?
stock J turbos good for a max of 550 bhp ?
Boost
Soonto"HAS"soop
15-01-04, 15:11
Originally posted by mrboost
anyone now the max bar reading for stock turbo's as hitting 1.56bar now. Can I go Higher ?
stock J turbos good for a max of 550 bhp ?
Boost
Keep running that sort of boost, and not only will your turbos let go, you could start melting things too.
1.3 bar is seen as the max by Chris Wilson, I personally moderate my right foot to give approx 1.2 bar.
Ben..
Martin,
unless you have some serious fuelling I would say 1.56 is really pushing things. People have dropped cylinders with less boost. If you are on race fuel then you might be able to keep it in one piece.
What EGT readings are you getting?
JB
don't no on the EGT as need a glove box conversion to install gauge.
Got the HKS fuel computer and uprated fuel pump. Under boost pushing 19% more fuel in.
Thanks for the advice guys.
Turned her down to the second highest boost setting what is 1.23. I'm not using that tuner anymore so will have to take it down to one of the experts on here.
Boostie
Soonto"HAS"soop
25-01-04, 17:47
I've only just noticed on my SBC-ID and Powermeter that the maximum speed says that I have only hit 93 leptons??? Now last night on my private test track I hit WAY over that. It was reading last night at 140 on the power/speed display (I know that this is in KMPH in this display) when cruising at around 100 leptons and I had it up to around 160 leptons, why is this not reading correctly? Is the speed signal cable supposed to be wired in after the speed signal convertor for a J Spec, or if it is spliced into the ECU connection should that be correct? Seems weird as the power and the speed in the power/speed display seems to be correct.
Anyone get what I'm talking about??
Ben..
I've got the same problem Ben.
I think it's something to do with the speedo convertor/delimiter. If the powermeter is wired in after the convertor, on the way to the ECU then it'll read incorectly.
Cheers
Just in the middle of fitting my PowerMeter at the moment, having fitted the ID3 last weekend. My PowerMeter also came with what I guess is some kind of harness, but I can't find any info on where it needs to go? :conf:
From what I remember, it looks like it plugs into the remaining slot in the SDB ID3 silver 'control' box, but then there are 4 wires coming out of it (Grey, Black, Yellow and Brown) and I have NO IDEA where they go .... or if I even need them? I have wired up the actual wires that came with the PowerMeter (i.e. Orange to ECU pin 2, Red to Live and Black to Ground), so I'm not sure what this extra 'harness' does? :(
I've attached a (rubbish) picture of it
Cheers, J :cool:
James, I think thats the optional harness that lets you also monitor things like water temp, injector pulse width, a/f, tps etc.
Not much info around for it, trying to decide what to do with mine.
Now on another note. The auto feature can't be used on the sequential turbo setup. What about when they are put in the true twin mode - has anyone tried that? And then using the gain to try and bring the normal lag associated with that down a bit?
Ahhhh .... That's cool! Well, if you figure out what to do with it let me know! I wouldn't have a clue where to splice it all in!
I'm about to go out there and mess about with the speedmap functions .... fingers crossed!!!
Cheers, J :cool:
p.s. Does the PowerMeter give the BHP figure at the wheels or the fly? Mine showed 329 at 1.1bar?
I had a little play with the speedmap function over the weekend. I gave it a go with Branners' settings from earlier on in this post! It did feel alot better in the early gears ... but those settings give me WAAAAAAY too much boost.
I showed a peak of 1.25bar (with plenty left to go!), and there was lots of popping etc when it was hitting my limit of 1.15. I also came out with a peak HP reading of 1183 on the PowerMeter after that!! :p :p
Does anyone else have some other examples of their speedmap and boost settings I could try ... I'm aiming for 1.15 bar max. I have no cats either. I'm going to mess about a little more with it and drop all the boost settings!
Cheers. J :cool:
I should probably put a warning on my settings, its for a UK spec and if you run them for an import theres a good chance it will go pop.
Try Paul E's settings.
I was planning on getting together with a few other SBC-ID owners and having a fiddle (so to speak) to see how best the settings map up. I was going to arrange it for Quincys on the A41 near Watford as theres a good dual carriage way there.
JB
Soonto"HAS"soop
22-03-04, 18:58
Originally posted by Branners
I should probably put a warning on my settings, its for a UK spec
It also sounds as if he hasn't got a restrictor ring in his exhaust either. That would obviously through a huge spanner into the works.
Ben..
Originally posted by Branners
[B]I should probably put a warning on my settings, its for a UK spec and if you run them for an import theres a good chance it will go pop. Ahhhh ... Well that explains it all! Don't worry, I got rid of the settings pretty sharpish (although it was fun :cool: ) - And you are correct ... I don't have a restrictor ring!
I am now using a toned down version of Pauls' settings as I found those to be slightly too high too .... seems to be spot on now though :cool:
Cheers, J
Soonto"HAS"soop
22-03-04, 19:36
What boost do you hit when you turn off the boost controller and run it with just the de-cat and exhaust etc etc?
Ben..
I'm looking at pretty much 1 bar (a touch over) with the boost controller switched off
Soonto"HAS"soop
22-03-04, 20:04
Originally posted by JamesArup
I'm looking at pretty much 1 bar (a touch over) with the boost controller switched off
That's pretty low considering. Mine hit way more than that, so you shouldn't need a restrictor ring if you are only hitting just over 1 bar. Try Paul E's settings, I have a variant of theseon mine, but I need to rewire the speed signal wire as it is wired in at the wrong point.
If you have a J-Spec, make sure that the speed signal wire is spliced in after the convertor and not at the ECU, otherwise the speed map won't work properly.
Ben..
If you have a J-Spec, make sure that the speed signal wire is spliced in after the convertor and not at the ECU, otherwise the speed map won't work properly. Buggernuts ... that might be something I did wrong? I do have a J-Spec and I spliced it into the orange speed wire going into the ECU (literally a few inches from where it goes into the ECU connector block) ... is that the wrong place?
Thanks for all the help Ben ... much appreciated :thumbs:
Cheers, J :cool:
Soonto"HAS"soop
22-03-04, 20:17
From what I remember, the speed signal wire from the ECU is pink, I need to trace mine towards the speedo and then tap into it after the convertor - wherever it is hidden.
Ben..
Just had all the speedo etc cluster out, so I took the opportunity to take a pic while I was in there. The pic shows the little speedo convertor gizmo, and the pink wire that comes out of it and goes down to the ECU. What I want to know is have I spliced my PowerMeter in on the right 'side' of the convertor, or should it be spliced in inbetween the speedo and the convertor?
It's giving some bizarre readings at the mo. At 1.08 bar, it's showing 167bhp!
Cheers, J :thumbs:
Soonto"HAS"soop
18-04-04, 15:20
You should splice into the wire that goes from the convertor to the speedo. Then remember to reset your powermeter and reset the 25 mph part of the setup. This should then set you up. That should return it to the correct setup. I was gonna do a lot of wiring on mine today, but it is cold and raining, so I've been drinkin' beer instead.
Ben..
Bugger ... So I've had it in the wrong place all this time ... which means my speed map will be t**s-up too :mad: . Beer is certainly a more inviting prospect .... but I might as well do something productive today (then congratulate myself with beer later :p )
Only prob is that there are 3 wires going into the convertor, and I am not 100% sure which one the speed one it?
I will go and investigate now :thumbs:
Cheers, J :cool:
Okay .... just taken a closeup picture of the converter to be 100% sure! Is it the Yellow (KMH input) or the Blue (MPH output) that I need to splice the PowerMeter into? My brain hurts!! :p
Cheers for the help,
James :thumbs:
Soonto"HAS"soop
18-04-04, 16:04
Splice it into the output mate, as this is the one that tells the SBC etc what MPH you are doing exactly, and should help to work out the BHP and everything else.
Ben..
Excellent .. Job done, cheers Ben,
Although I wouln't advise trying to do ECU wiring with the passenger door closed because of the rain ... it's a bit of a tight squeeze :p . Got about a 45 mins drive to Cricket practise now, so I'll get to give it a good test!
Cheers again, J :thumbs:
Originally posted by Branners
I just set my boost controller up for MAP using speed settings and the increase in performance is amazing in the lower gears. I will check what settings I have in there but I think its
CH1 to 20mph 75 gain 26
CH2 to 40mph 70 gain 26
CH3 to 60mph 65 gain 26
CH4 60mph + 62 gain 26
anybody see a problem with these settings? Even flat out going up the Rickmansworth hill (90lep before hitting the top) it didnt go above 1.2bar.
JB
any updates to these settings? im going to run these today... on my uk TT :)
thanks
nope, Im still running them a year later and nothing has gone pop, worst spike i have seen is 1.32bar, mostly hits 1.2bar, I have the warning at 1.35 bar I think and I havent seen it hit that at all.
Im also running in ETTC mode some times and they work well with that, give a higher boost but still doesnt spike past the same point as with sequentials.
JB
I just had an SBC and power meter fitted today, I have set it up to JB's settings but one thin confuses me, the speed setings.
JB lists 20, 40 and 60mph but the unit has a scale of 0 - 200mph in 15 steps, which gives ~13mph steps or are JB's figures approx?
Heres a pic of the setup screen, could someone please tell me if it looks about right.
Ive just been out for a test drive and I think I had the settings around the wrong way. Ignoring my speed map question for the second:
JB's settings "CH1 to 20mph 75 gain 26"
I took this to be boost 75 gain 26 which must have been wrong as I floored it and almost instantly got a warning from my boost guage, it reported a peek of 1.35 bar (I backed off as soon as I heard the buzzer probably would have gone higher)
I then changed the numbers round on all 4 chans eg. boost 26 gain 75. This time I couldnt get it higher than 0.8bar.
The only thing I know that might effect it is that JB has full decat and I only have cat 1 removed.
Anyone have any ideas what settings I should be running?
Originally posted by JohnK
JB's settings "CH1 to 20mph 75 gain 26"
I took this to be boost 75 gain 26 which must have been wrong as I floored it and almost instantly got a warning from my boost guage, it reported a peek of 1.35 bar (I backed off as soon as I heard the buzzer probably would have gone higher)
You were correct the first time. TBH it seems to vary from car to car. If your hitting 1.35 at that setting try from 70 upwards.
Roy
The problem is I wasnt hitting 1.35, thats when I backed off, I was only at ~5500rpm, I would have gone a LOT higher.
Not sure what rpm peak boost would occur at but that still might have been around the peak. Its really a case of trying different set points. You may need to start below 70 and then increase 1 point at a time until you reach the limit you require. For instance mines set at 71 but hits jb's figures.
can somebody with a jspec and front cat still in and a nurspec (or the like) tell me what settings they use on the IDIII
Dragonball
17-01-05, 12:17
can somebody with a jspec and front cat still in and a nurspec (or the like) tell me what settings they use on the IDIII
Give me a call you tart and I'll talk you through - also did you get my email?
CHeers
Paul :)
just looked it was in junk :confused:
ill call you later mate :eyebrows:
GetawayDriver
18-01-05, 10:21
I also tried Branners' settings as i too have UK car. I still have one cat in place and showed a max of 1.09. I have the true twin turbo mod too and find that the car pulls great in 1st, 2nd, 3rd when on boost, the change up to 4th seems to bog down a bit a loose power. i need to set the damn thing to record so i can look at it when i'm not flat out in 4th!
I've managed to find some english instructions for the SBC i-D III, does any one have a PDF of the powermeter i-D instuctions? i can't find these anywhere.
Thanks
Tom`s Supra
19-01-05, 14:12
I have a blitz dual-sbc boost controller but Im unsure what the seting should be. Bearing in mind a have hybrid turbos I have set the four channels as 1. 25 2. 50 3. 75 4.100 is this ok? And what should my gain be? the instructions say 20 is the norm but the previous owner had it set on 95?! 100 being the maximum. it got it on 20 at the moment. the instructions say anything over 50 and it will be erractic. What are your setting and what do you suggest I should do? I dont want to damage anything! Thanks! Oh and when I had it set on boost gauge setting it went upto 1.2 is that right?
GetawayDriver
19-01-05, 14:35
These are my new settings (UK Spec, don't think JDM can run this on stock fueling):
CH1 to 20mph 80 gain 26
CH2 to 40mph 75 gain 26
CH3 to 60mph 70 gain 26
CH4 60mph + 67 gain 26
Then I set the boost controller channel to MAP. I had it on EXT before whch also seem to work, but was irattic and not as responsive.
I'm still playing with it and trying different settings. Mostly on the M25 in rush hour - which is a surprisingly good place to do it, lots of stopping and starting, up to 70mph then back to a standstill to readjust things!
My settings are 5% higher than JB's to attain the same max boost of 1.2bar. Could this be because i have 1 Cat still in place and JB has a full decat?
GetawayDriver
19-01-05, 22:09
turned these down a bit as hit 1.33 on CH3 with previous settings
CH1 to 20mph 80 gain 26
CH2 to 40mph 75 gain 26
CH3 to 60mph 65 gain 26
CH4 60mph + 62 gain 26
Just to clear any confusion up when applying the settings:
CH1 used upto 20mph - SET=75 Gain=26
CH2 used upto 40mph - SET=70 Gain=26
CH3 used upto 60mph - SET=65 Gain=26
CH4 60mph+ - SET=62 Gain=26
SET = Boost Pressure/level
Gain = Boost Resonse/Spool up
I have used the JB's settings for a long time and was getting 1.2 - 1.3bar.
I used the following bars on the Power Meter:
However, if you fit an induction kit, you will need to drop the SET numbers.
GetawayDriver
09-06-06, 15:46
drop the set by how much? - i've always had an induction kit fitted but have been running 26
GetawayDriver
09-06-06, 15:52
sorry talking bollocks. gain was 26. so what is a safe boost limit on a UK spec. i am still hitting fuel cut sometimes even with the FCD. - think i'llpost that one in tech
It's the SET/Boost Pressure that I'm adjusting at the moment not the Gain/Boost response.
I expect this will be different from filter to filter - car to car ??? I'm guess ?
I have dropped CH3 and CH4 by 5 points:
So I have:
CH3 SET=60 Gain =26
CH4 SET=57 Gain =26
Chnls 1 & 2 are OK
I want to bring my boost down to 1.2bar and with it peaking at 1.25bar at worst.
GetawayDriver
09-06-06, 16:07
hmm that makes sense. mine is hitting fuel cut in 4th and 5th, usually close to the redline. the eboost controller doesn't indicate excessive boost. sometimes it hits fuel cut at an indicated 0.9bar. maybe it is not accurate and i've boosting way over what is safe. i have blown a pipe of the intercooler recently - maybe thats a sign!
Dragonball
09-06-06, 19:08
If I understand this correctly the SET figure represents the % increase on stock
i.e. if stock boost is 0.9 and SET is at 35
0.9BAR x 135% = 1.2BAR
There obviously other factors at work here - but I would seriously work you way up to those figures rather than try them from the 'off'
also worth making sure your peak boost setting it set just right. The SBCID will lower the boost automatically if you go over the peak boost setting which is a great safety feature. I found I was 'just' hitting that peak boost setting so I tweaked it up a little and everything went fine from there.
Im now a single turbo but not done anything about the boost settings until the car is mapped...one day perhaps.
JB
supra_surj
10-11-06, 03:05
I really dont understand these settings. ive got a jspec with all cats in.
can someone give me the settings i should be using?
also does it automaticaly use ch1, 2, 3 and 4 or do i select them so there showing on the display? sorry to sound abit thick. haha!
Dragonball
10-11-06, 20:08
Give me a call and I will talk you through it...
Bump, I'm lost guys. I have used the following settings for a J-spec TT BPU with Hybrids:
Channel 1: SET 20 GAIN 10
Channel 2: SET 25 GAIN 10
Channel 3: SET 35 GAIN 15
Channel 4: SET 60 GAIN 25
Despite this, I'm hitting no more than 0.76 bar and it wont go any higher. I do have an Induction kit fitted (previous owner) and the settings are all on MANUAL.
What the frikking heck am I doing wrong? :(
Thanks,
Greg
You don't use a Power meter right ?
So, if you leave it on CH4 at your current settings, you don't boost over stock ?
Has it ever worked ? Sounds like you might need to check if it's installed right.
After reading this link I’m still confused about how gain effects boost, as I understand it set is the % of extra boost above stock that the controller will allow through the turbos but what does gain do and how does it effect Boost?
I was looking at my car's setup and the settings I have are Set = 35 and Gain= 3, the car will boost to 1.3 bar and spike up to 1.45 which is way to high for me, I don't want my Boost to go above 1.2bar. I have the old Miami GT stage 3 hybrids so I guess my new stock boost would be above 0.9 bar.
What settings would people suggest?
Kick would someone explain the top question please?
I might think i should go for the AEM boostcontroller, the blitz got way too many functions!
HTH
J
SET = Boost Pressure/level
Gain = Boost Resonse/Spool up
Could some one put here setting for the J-spec why I can not use the uk settings ?
Dragonball
23-09-07, 15:13
Could some one put here setting for the J-spec why I can not use the uk settings ?
Say again? :search:
(sorry I am a bit slow today :))
Guys,
Sorry to drag this up, but I'm looking for some assistance.
I have Paul E's old supra - and blitz idc boost controller. I'm seeing silly figures on boost peaks at the moment, and so want to get these reduced.
The current settings are:
I've checked the settings, and currently they are:
CH1 Set=42, Gain=15, Limiter=55, Scramble=5
CH2 Set=40, Gain=15, Limiter=55, Scramble=5
CH3 Set=20, Gain=10, Limiter=55, Scramble=5
CH4 Set=15, Gain=5, Limiter=55, Scramble=5.
I've gone for a blast down the motorway (about 10 mins ago) and I was seeing peaks of around 1.4bar when i put my foot down - I want this well below 1.15bar.
I took ch1 SET down to 20, and I don't think I noticed much difference. I've also turned off scramble as I don't think I want/need it.
Unfortunately I am a numpty with these things at the mo, still learning them. It seems to have a boost map, which I assume means that at different revs it uses different channel settings - correct? In which case, I should reduce ch2 and ch3 as well (ch4 isn't in use according to the map), as it'll be using these when i put my foot down (higher revs??)
EDIT: It seems if I have it set to CH1, it will only use CH1. I need to flick to MAP to use all 4 channels as per map - so I shouldn't need to touch ch2/3/4 until I can get ch1 working right.
Any help/guidance would be appreciated! Thanks
Cheers folks
Dragonball
10-04-08, 08:52
Paul
The actual figures for the SET should approximate the % increase that you are looking to dial in above the stock figure
i.e. if stock boost is 0.9 - and your SET figure is 40 =
0.9 x 40% increase = 1.26 BAR
Of course it depends on your 'stock' boost figure, air density etc - and now it being colder drop this SET down to 30
0.9 x 30% increase = 1.17 BAR
The GAIN figure it a similar increase dial in - although this will cause spikes if too high
Take this GAIN down to 10 and see what happens (that is the beauty of the graphs available in the unit)
Good testing! :)
You are correct about the MAP figure - you will see this MAP may be configured according to either RPM's or speed (i.e. CH1, CH2. CH3 or CH4 settings will activate at those RPM's or MPH - depending on which you have chosen)
does any one have a good set of settings for my car.
im a bit of a novice and mine got reset when i disconected the battery.
My cars a jspec and full details are in my garage... please help
supra_surj
10-04-08, 10:51
I understand how to work out the SET but how do you know what the GAIN should be?
Dragonball
10-04-08, 11:13
I understand how to work out the SET but how do you know what the GAIN should be?
Keep it below 20 :)
supra_surj
10-04-08, 13:13
Cheers mate. ;)
Thanks Paul :)
I think I'm going to reset ch1 (leave the settings for the other channels for now) and just start from the bottom and work up.
I understand the theory of %, but don't understand why some cars need a SET of around 60/70 to get the same boost figure (1.2bar) as I would with potentially a SET of 20/30. Each car is different, agreed, but thats a big difference!....
How does the limiter figure come into play? Is it the higher the number, the quicker it reduces the boost???
Dragonball
10-04-08, 22:42
I understand the theory of %, but don't understand why some cars need a SET of around 60/70 to get the same boost figure (1.2bar) as I would with potentially a SET of 20/30. Each car is different, agreed, but thats a big difference!....
How does the limiter figure come into play? Is it the higher the number, the quicker it reduces the boost???
Me neither m8 - mine have always been Ok around those figures - unless there is a level beyond which it makes no difference
Limiter figure - is the level at which the boost controller will attempt to retard the boost figure (this works only partially - it will flash red and you get a warning tone - you may feel a slight effect - but not a huge amount)
Set this at 1.15 and you will be warned if you go over etc
Set this at 1.15 and you will be warned if you go over etc
I have the warning buzzer etc set at this value, as it was what you left it at :)
However - the limiter value I am talking about seems to apply to all channels, and is a value between 0 and 100. This is next to the scramble setting. Currently it is set to 55?? I don't understand what this does and the manual doesn't really explain it. :(
Dragonball
11-04-08, 09:20
I have the warning buzzer etc set at this value, as it was what you left it at :)
However - the limiter value I am talking about seems to apply to all channels, and is a value between 0 and 100. This is next to the scramble setting. Currently it is set to 55?? I don't understand what this does and the manual doesn't really explain it. :(
I always assumed this limits the SET figure - so no matter what you dial in it wil not go above this figure (a failsafe for un-nimble fingers perhaps)
You will need to check this!!
hmmm ok mate - thanks. I suppose you could be right - seems a bit weird, but could be!
Right then - I went for a nice long drive today, and had the settings on CH1 @ SET 10, and Gain 10.
Peaked at 1bar. So that's a good thing then. Cranked the SET up to 20 while on the move (manual says it takes affect straight away) and didn't really notice that much difference, maybe a peak at 1.04bar. Anyway - I'm much happier now that it's boosting lower, I'll just increase the settings until I'm happy. :)
Thanks for your help peeps - especially Paul again!
im still look for two decat. anyone who selling please let me know
kieren1234
01-06-08, 14:47
im still look for two decat. anyone who selling please let me know
And why did you feel the need to post that in this section??
hurrah, even after having numerous posts deleted you still chose to post in to a thread asking about decat when the thread is about boost controllers.
ta ta.
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