chris aka fonz Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Like the above says , someone asked me and i couldnt tell them , is it purely cosmetic ? Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Strange how the US spec ones with a potentially hotter climate dont get them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Airflow to cool the engine. I imagine JSpec cars don't have the scoop because in Japan they were restricted to 112mph and it was deemed not necessary. Whereas in the UK - Supes are limted to 160mph (??) .. so an airscoop to force the flow of cold air into the engine bay would help cool it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 US cars are unlikely to get a prolonged high speed run on a German Autobahn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Airflow to cool the engine. I imagine JSpec cars don't have the scoop because in Japan they were restricted to 112mph and it was deemed not necessary. That doesn't explain the US Spec cars not having a scoop though. Whereas in the UK - Supes are limted to 160mph (??) 155mph limiter for the UK Spec I think mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 At the time, they had the blanket 55mph limit throughout the States, didn't they? Strongly enforced, too, for their own protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 That doesn't explain the US Spec cars not having a scoop though. That's true ... perhaps Toyota's thinking was .. they didn't want to confuse the Americans between an air scoop and letterbox. 155mph limiter for the UK Spec I think mate I stand corrected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 US cars are unlikely to get a prolonged high speed run on a German Autobahn. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 yes, but do the Americans know that? In an earlier poll, they announced that several hundrends of thousands of Americans are convinced that they have been abducted by aliens and been experimented upon (I'm not making this up!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Maybe they have! It might explain a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardasaliah Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I think it is is to cool the back cyliders? 5 and 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 #3 & 4 in the middle of the engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I'm not sure it was there just for cooling, although it will help. If they didn't put it on the American car because of the lower speed limits cannot be right. You must design a car with it's top speed and performance in mind, in my opinion speed limits don't come into it at all. I'm sure if you drove the car on some long deserted roads in Arizona you wouldn't be sticking to the speed limit and the Toyota engineers would know this. It must be for mainly cosmetic reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 If it was for cosmetics it wouldnt come with the funnelling that ducts the air down passed the engine.. the ones you see on J-specs and US models are purely for cosmetics as they dont come with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezabloke Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Like the above says , someone asked me and i couldnt tell them , is it purely cosmetic ? Thx Because it looks the bollox.... Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I cannot think of any other reason though, surely the American car would be driven just as hard. Unless there are other differences between the UK car and the American car. If they put the scoop on they may aswell do the full deal with the ducting aswell. Dunno ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt T Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Because it looks the bollox.... Dave They look 10x better without it, the Supra bonnet is to large and curvey for a 'stuck on' looking bonnet scoop to suit it. All imo of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezabloke Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 They look 10x better without it, the Supra bonnet is to large and curvey for a 'stuck on' looking bonnet scoop to suit it. All imo of course Yes defo IYO otherwise Mr T wouldnt sell so many to J spec owners? lol Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi2009 Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 They look 10x better without it, the Supra bonnet is to large and curvey for a 'stuck on' looking bonnet scoop to suit it. All imo of course I think so too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRalphMan Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 I might be biased (imo), but I think the scope sets the car up. A soup's just too plain without one... or was that about biscuits... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale B Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Listen to Bobbeh, hes got it right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 ...It must be for mainly cosmetic reasons.It's not cosmetic at all. During stress-testing they found under prolonged full throttle the top of the cyl head between 3&4 (I think) was getting hotter than the rest. The scoop sends cool air straight at that point, restoring the thermal balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 It's not cosmetic at all. During stress-testing they found under prolonged full throttle the top of the cyl head between 3&4 (I think) was getting hotter than the rest. The scoop sends cool air straight at that point, restoring the thermal balance. Fair enough, but why didn't the American car get one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Fair enough, but why didn't the American car get one? They don't have 155mph roads and it's cheaper to produce a non vented bonnet. I expect we have the dild...er...headlight washers...that the US spec's don't cause of legislation in a European country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Fair enough, but why didn't the American car get one? If you happened to be in America at the time, you'd know how keen they were to enforce the 55mph limit everywhere. Troopers with radar guns were popping up from behind the bushes in the middle of nowhere! (yeee-blody-haaaa) Don't know if it's different now, haven't been to the States for many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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