should I or shouldn't I

Hey everyone

Hello, I am new to the supra community, and have come to ask all of you a very important question. I curently own a 1997 Porsche Boxster in collectors colors, the car has quite a few options and I spent the past 2 years, bustin my ass to get her, I love er, she is my pride and joy. But I have fallen in love with the supra TT, but I am a business man, and although I have a never ending quest for performance, I also have to make sure I'm not throwing money out the window. I have heard rumor, that the TT is coming down in price, thats not really what I want to hear. I may have the opportunity to trade the porsche for a stock Supra TT. I plan on doing some visual as well as performance upgrades, and I want to make sure that once, I pour a few k in this car, and I turn around to sell it, in a few years I'm not going to end up taking a beating, and losing my shirt. So is it a rumor, what is the market saying. Will the price go back up? Also, what is it like to drive? I have driven STi's, covettes, Porsches, and Civics. There is generally one of two feelings you can get from driving them, from the corvettes, and porsches, I generally get the feeling like I am part of the car, kind of like a fighter jet, with the STI and Civic, I feel like i am piloting a tin can, or a go cart. What does the Supra feel like? What are your oppinions on the situation?

These cars are becoming quite specialist these days, Good ones and I mean really good ones are far and few between.

Ive seen lots of bodykitted cars that have been done in BAD taste and cheap engine modifications that are just pointless.

Owning one of these cars is great and you will get mad respect for one in New York.

As long as you get a GOOD example and have all the work done to a very hight quality you should not have any problems selling it on in a few years. Although after owning it and upgrading it I think you will find it hard to let go!

They are SO reliable and SO fast and have SO many extra parts its like constantly being in a candy shop! There is always more you can do to increase power.

There are always enthusiasts who will buy the car from you as well. These will be the only people who will really apreciate the work you may have done to the car.

Good Luck, Oh and get rid of that Boxter

So thats a YES YOU SHOULD...

Also look here http://www.supraforums.com

Im sure there are people around your are who can help you and possibly look over the car to just make sure

...I am a business man, and although I have a never ending quest for performance, I also have to make sure I'm not throwing money out the window.

Businessman?

You mean you have business sense, or you trade cars as a business?

Either way, you should know that spending money modifying used cars is a black hole. You don't expect to get that money ever back, in fact you're prepared for it to be harder to resell (compared to an unmolested, stock example)

As for the feeling, how can you compare a supraTT to a civic or whatever?

.... kind of like a fighter jet, with the STI and Civic, I feel like i am piloting a tin can, or a go cart. What does the Supra feel like? ..

fighter jet

well i would definatly say you would feel part of the car.

regarding prices, i really doubt it will go up, it will only go down, and in the uk, it has definalty dropped down in price, probably when it becomes a classic car will prices start to go up?? i dont know.

i would have thought with a boxster you could sell that and afford a supraTT easy with many basic mods done. but then again you in new york and i dont know the market difference between the two since supra's seem alot more expensive than here.

You will feel like you are in a fighter jet in the soop with the dash kind of wrapping around you.

You'll enjoy killing porkers!

Yeah, join the DARK SIDE

http://www.max-boost.co.uk/stuff/I_am_your_father.jpg

Sorry to dash illusions here the porker will hold it's money far far better than a Supra will .... and anyone on here that says it wont is seriously mistaken BUT the Supra is a far more enjoyanle car to drive and play with ... the Boxter is a fantastic little car and handles far better that a a stock supe around b roads ...but for pure hair on the balls mans car the Supe everytime for me and you can play and have some fun with them. Don't forget you are trading a a new model car for something that is now aging , I know Supras are still holding money in the states so it may be different to here. But I would say Bang for $$$$ Supra hands down

Sell the Boxter cos that's the middle class man's porsche and no prosche is meant to be middle class. Sorry Boxters are shiteboxes IMO, as far as I'm concerned my n/a is about as good as the Boxter, it's about as fast too.

It seem to me you're after the supe for the wrong reasons. You want performance and attention but you are constantly aware of the market value and so on. Do not get the supra if this is your concern. A modders dream is not one which is driven by numbers and currency, it's purely for the love and passion and of course, the adrenalin.

Dont forget the Supra was produced locally in the US and can be bought cheaper than most other places but there are plenty and plenty of great examples so why bother spending money on modifications when you can simply buy something that will most resemble what you're after? You will always lose money modding, that is a golden rule.

To conclude my advice is, dont buy the Supra to mod, it doesnt sound like it will work out quiet how you imagine it. Maybe pay more money for something which is alread "finished".

TT Supra's cost a LOT more than over here, they are still classed as a status car it would seem and demand a lot more respect (and I mean from people in the know as opposed to just F+F fans).

Did a quick search and bearing in mind that things tend to be $1 = £1 when buying things dispite the exchange rate, as in you'll buy an Xbox for £100 while there it will be $100 I've seen it said on supraforums you'd need at least $20k to get a TT Supra which would be double really to over here ignoring the exchange rate.

The first time I took the supra up to 150, I was very impressed with the stability. It holds the road very well indeed. But that's at the expense of B-road nimbleness, so first decide what is most important to you.

As for the boxter, to me it sends just one loud signal: "I can't afford a 911turbo"

TT Supra's cost a LOT more than over here, they are still classed as a status car it would seem and demand a lot more respect (and I mean from people in the know as opposed to just F+F fans).

 

Did a quick search and bearing in mind that things tend to be $1 = £1 when buying things dispite the exchange rate, as in you'll buy an Xbox for £100 while there it will be $100 I've seen it said on supraforums you'd need at least $20k to get a TT Supra which would be double really to over here ignoring the exchange rate.

The supra was also produced locally for the UK. I dont know whether it's cheaper to buy a TT in the US or the UK but the prices should be relatively similar as a result.

How much does a bone stock 1993 TT cost in the UK?

How much does a bone stock 1993 TT cost in the UK?

Do you ask a woman what her age is?

The supra was also produced locally for the UK. I dont know whether it's cheaper to buy a TT in the US or the UK but the prices should be relatively similar as a result.

 

How much does a bone stock 1993 TT cost in the UK?

Way less than those that are listed on that yank autotrader site. The UK has been flooded with cheaper Jap Imports, the USA hasn't.

Having owned a boxter for 2 years, and then having switching to supras, I can only say that its a balance of what you want the car to be/do. The boxter is an incredibly stable car but underpowered. Country roads are a bliss to travel through and no corner really proves to difficult for it. Track days in a boxter are fantastic fun, but you end up wanting more power once you've settled into it - and that costs mega bucks.

Mine had far too many problems with reliability in 2 years for me to justify the price/running costs, so I went for a supra.

The supra is a very competant car all round, but it is bigger and heavier than the boxter, so don't expect the same dynamics - that said the grin you get everytime you push the right pedal far outways the difference. They're not as agile round country roads, but track side they are unbelievable. Once you've had some track time, you want a little more power - so you upgrade bits n pieces to give you more power and you get back on it !

These are my opinions on the two cars - the supra wins my heart everytime - I've never regreted changing - so much so that I'm on my second supra - I wouldn't have bought another boxter......

Do you ask a woman what her age is?

Nah I'm just kidding buddy, but yeh that was pretty weak. And to answer the question, if I'm about to enter then yes most of the time I do. I seem to be able to get away with it.

Way less than those that are listed on that yank autotrader site. The UK has been flooded with cheaper Jap Imports, the USA hasn't.

I am lead to believe it's due to the import laws. Here in OZ we've got the 15 yr rule which has just been made more strict. I think the US has very similar laws plus they have a very large market with the supras which were produced locally, hence why there might not be as high a demand for J-spec (plus they are all RHD).

Boxsters do hold their value well (here in the Uk anyway).

But early cars have a number of known faults which are expensive to fix - two mates have them and have only just found out and maybe they're waiting for big bills - maybe they'll never turn up but it's no fun waiting and they're going to sell their Boxsters (one to buy a VX220 Turbo and the other a 911).

But a Supra is unlikely to be a cheap car to run and you don't go into it aiming to get your money back. Maybe you should get a Nissan 300ZX - they made them until 2000 in Japan and it's the connosieur's choice at the end of the day.

The other problem with a boxter is everyone comments - ' oh it's just a boxter' which kinda gets to you when you've shelled out huge amounts of money...

I'd have to disagree with the residual values that are commonly used - mine lost £12K in 2 years.

Slightly off topic - Craig... If your mates want a heads-up on what goes wrong with them I'd gladly give some info. ( constructive of course ;-)) )

Supra's are imo flooding into the UK now. I see loads on a daily basis. That is what I think is forcing values down. You can import an early N/A for less than £3k now. TT's are in the region of £5-6k. Its not going to be long before supra's start being bought by the same type that dragged the 300zx's name into the mud and stamped all over it. Add to that the fact that mainstream mens mags like maxim this month are running pictures of the next supra and just watch them values plummet.

PS the new boxster S is running 280 bhp now as well