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Syed Shah
27-03-05, 15:06
Finally got some time to play around on GT4, an have been having some fun on the ring in a 240HP + Nitrous SZ-R.

Best time so far is a 8'06.279

What can you guys do? Any mods allowed to it by the way, so more potential.

BTW, anyone managed to get a green Supra yet? Can't find one, and wonder if it has it.

SupraStar 3000
27-03-05, 15:14
8'06, think you've got me :(
...mind you, the track so damn long a keep needing to stop for a pee break!

I've bought every Supra I've seen but still only have a Red and Silver one, but I'm sure more colours are available.
Think I've seen a screen shot of a purp car from GT4.

Syed Shah
27-03-05, 15:46
Lol! Pause it man! :D

I have Black, QS and RSP so far, and have seen white, thats it.

Bobbeh
27-03-05, 15:55
8:06 is a great time.... Im still struggling to comeplete omne fast lap without coming off :)

I think I managed 8:17 in that 490bhp Chevy Concept Truck.

Syed Shah
27-03-05, 19:11
7'52.462 :D Same 240HP + 70HP shot. Near-perfect lap, could squeeze a sub 7'50, but only just.

Where are all the NA Supra GT4 players? C'mon!

AJI
27-03-05, 19:35
I've done a 8:05 in a Supra TT.
Any mods possible?

Is that onto either a NA or a TT ?

Game on! (I tried doing a similar challenge to this a week or two ago but not many takers).

Bobbeh
27-03-05, 20:19
Where are all the NA Supra GT4 players? C'mon!

Not chosing to drive the NA!

We had a challenge already set for the stock RZ-S, get doing some times in that :)

SupraStar 3000
27-03-05, 20:33
just had a quick go in the race mode again.
HOW GOOD IS THIS GAME!!!

Just won a Jap championship and on the last race followed right behind this RX-7 around 4 laps on the suzuki race track at night with lights on and on the last lap he ran off into a sand trap and jumped back off the wall onto the track just behind me.

Looked so realistic I thought i was going to die!

The detail on this game is phenomenal

Syed Shah
27-03-05, 21:09
I've done a 8:05 in a Supra TT.
Any mods possible?

Is that onto either a NA or a TT ?

Game on! (I tried doing a similar challenge to this a week or two ago but not many takers).


NA please, any mods you want to it. Will do a TT one a bit later, or rather join your challenge (link?).

Ready to taste defeat? :D (Probably the only way for me to beat AJI at driving)

Syed Shah
27-03-05, 21:10
Not chosing to drive the NA!




Lol! Harsh! :stickpoke :D

Update: 240HP + 50HP shot, 7'42.001 :D

AJI
28-03-05, 20:12
OK just done a 7'11.8 sec in a NA Supra with NOS and with a bit of a suspension setup ;-) (oh yeah it also had a bit of a brake setup, and a bit of an engine tune - well you did say we could modify it a bit!)

There are a few more seconds to come off that time by the way, some corners I braked too much. :)

Syed Shah
28-03-05, 20:13
:D Time to add suspension, brakes and tune that engine I think! :D

Bobbeh
28-03-05, 20:32
Just stick to the goddam stock supra challenge, i cant keep up :D

colsoop
28-03-05, 21:45
Are these times using automatic or manual ? And with or without girly driving aids :)

Syed Shah
28-03-05, 22:33
7'12.2 Getting close! 350HP + 40HP shot, still full weight + stock suspension.

Bobbeh, if you can't play with the big (NA) dogs, stay on the porch! :D

Colsoop, auto, with the pad not wheel. All girly aids off :)

Bobbeh
28-03-05, 22:36
Shut it soarer boy ;)

Syed Shah
28-03-05, 22:38
The only Toyota good enough to be called a Lexus! :D :p

Bobbeh
28-03-05, 22:39
Haha! Mycroft has returned under a new guise :D

Syed Shah
28-03-05, 22:41
Ssshh! ;)

Bobbeh
28-03-05, 22:51
Put up some pics of the Soarer :)

Syed Shah
29-03-05, 00:20
Lol, you saw it at Billing! But ok, I will email you some or something.

Anyway, same setup as above, another try yielded a 7'11.003 :D I can see sub-7min with more mods :D

Bobbeh
05-04-05, 21:21
Ok.. I managed a 7:53:7 with a stock Supra RZ, no TCS and default sports/medium tyres... now where are those times!!!? :)

Bobbeh
07-04-05, 01:22
Ok, the bar has been raised further.. 7:46, come on peeps, TIMES!!! :D

AJI
07-04-05, 08:50
blimey ! I'll be having another go at this tonight !
Is that still with an NA Supra ?

Ian C
07-04-05, 09:02
Is there a driver on the planet that could go round the 'ring in the same sort of car so fast for real? I though anything under 8 minutes needed some bonkers race prepped 800bhp monster?

-Ian

AJI
07-04-05, 12:31
No.... in the game you can take corners without risk. In real life you have to think about living long enough to make the next corner. :)


The game can't replicate real life for £40. It has some realistic features but on the whole it is still a game.

SupraStar 3000
07-04-05, 13:03
In real life you have to think about living long enough to make the next corner. :)

LMAO.
and I thought my aspirations in life were limited :rtfm:

Ian C
07-04-05, 13:38
No.... in the game you can take corners without risk. In real life you have to think about living long enough to make the next corner. :)


The game can't replicate real life for £40. It has some realistic features but on the whole it is still a game.

That's *so* true for a punter going round :) but I bet Mike of the Schumacher isn't shitting it during every corner he goes round at 4G ;) he'd drive a car to it's utter limit around the 'ring, as would many other drivers. And I bet he wouldn't do it in 7m11s in an NA soop with nitrous :)

Seems daft to have so many accurate cars and such an accurate track and then somehow mess up the physics to the point that you, with a joypad (and a bag of Doritos for the straight bits :) ), can hoon round the Ring in a stock Supra a minute faster than the best drivers in real life could with a race prepped Porsche... :(

I'm gonna get flamed to buggery by the GT4 crowd aiieeeeeeee

-Ian

Ian C
07-04-05, 13:39
Here, actually, what's the Supra like compared to a real one, then? Are the ratios/speeds/handling/braking right? Any game I've played with a Supra in has been wildly off.

I hear they have got turbo lag right though :thumbs:

-Ian

Bobbeh
07-04-05, 13:44
blimey ! I'll be having another go at this tonight !
Is that still with an NA Supra ?

No, the RZ, stock, no traction control, sports/medium tyres. Ignore the NA crap, no one cares for that.

Bobbeh
07-04-05, 13:46
Is there a driver on the planet that could go round the 'ring in the same sort of car so fast for real? I though anything under 8 minutes needed some bonkers race prepped 800bhp monster?

-Ian

Nah, just a car that can handle well, the new NSX Type R has been round in 7:51, and the Corvette C6 under 8 mins too.

That Blitz Supra got a 700bhp 7:49 didnt it?

MrAngry
07-04-05, 13:56
Some real Ring times for you

Nordschleife (exluding GP track) 20.6 kms:
7:01 --- 176.152 kph -- Manthey Porsche GT3 race car, 493 hp (2004), http://www.autobild.de/tuning/testberichte...artikel_seite=4
7:06 --- 174.084 kph -- BMW M3 GTR, 450 hp, 1350 kg, Jörg Müller (practice 2hrs race 2003)
7:12 --- 173.600 kph – Radical SR3 Turbo race car, 320 hp, 500 kgs, test drive 07/2003
7:12.25 173.500 kph – Schnitzer BMW M3 GTR, Dirk Müller, 24 hrs practice 2002
7:18.01 169.311 kph -- Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 hp, 670 kg, M. Düchting, sport auto 12/2004, http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThr...fID=2&tID=13957
7:19 --- 168.929 kph -- Radical SR3 Turbo (2003), http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/news_fold...liefe/index.php
7:20* -- 168.545 kph -- Opel Astra DTM V8 Coupe,500hp set-up for 24hrs race (sport auto 2003) *estimated
7:21 --- 168.163 kph -- Blitz Supra, 650 PS (Autocar magazine 1997)
7:25 --- 168.651 kph -- Alzen Motorsport Porsche 996, 24hrs race, Uwe Alzen
7:28 --- 166.652 kph -- Porsche Carrera GT, Walther Röhrl,(Autobild July 2004)
7:32.44 163.911 kph -- Porsche Carrera GT, definitive time by Horst Von Saurma (sport auto)
7:32.52 163.882 kph -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 2001) http://www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html
7:36 --- 162.631 kph -- AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 hp, Michelin Sport Cup R , Mattias Ekblom
7:36 --- 162.631 kph -- Porsche Carrera GT, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (2002)
7:40 --- 161.217 kph -- Porsche GT3 RS, stock but Pirelli P Zero Corsa, Mattias Ekblom, ams
7:40* -- 161.217 kph -- Porsche Carrera GT, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/2003)
7:40 --- 161.217 kph -- Mercedes Benz McLaren SLR, Klaus Ludwig (Autobild 07/2004)
7:41 --- 160.868 kph – Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp (AutoBild 07/2004) http://www.autobild.de/tuning/testberichte/artikel.php?

Not bad the Supe held the record for 6 years :D

Bobbeh
07-04-05, 13:59
7:21, even better. Using laggy twin turbos too, Im sure Dude could go round faster ;)

Steve W2
07-04-05, 16:49
I have got the Gran Tourismo F1 car. Can I do it in that? It's NA ;)

Syed Shah
07-04-05, 16:55
I have got the Gran Tourismo F1 car. Can I do it in that? It's NA ;)

If you can get into the sub-5min club, then yes. :stickpoke

Steve W2
07-04-05, 16:59
If you can get into the sub-5min club, then yes. :stickpoke

:woot: I shall have a go, it's not really that easy to drive though :looney:

SimonB
07-04-05, 17:16
I have got the Gran Tourismo F1 car. Can I do it in that? It's NA ;)

How did you get that? I thought you had to complete one of the endurance races, or did you cheat? ;)

Syed Shah
07-04-05, 17:21
'Ring 24hr Enduro wins you the F1 car.

AJI
07-04-05, 21:50
ok.... just slapped a soft compound race tyre on and my new time is 6"50'.412... got camera phone proof if required LOL

That's still with an NA Supra with all the mods possible... including rear down force wing and NOS.


Just thought of another reason why you can drive the game a lot faster that in real life...... just think how short a time it takes you in the game to go from full turning lock to full lock in the other direction. To do that hand speed in real life is impossible.

Bobbeh
07-04-05, 21:56
Grr what happened to the Stock RZ challenge!

SimonB
07-04-05, 22:09
Grr what happened to the Stock RZ challenge!

I'm still trying to beat 8'05 or whatever it was! Mind you I've been playing through the main game recently. I will try harder!

Syed Shah
07-04-05, 22:33
ok.... just slapped a soft compound race tyre on and my new time is 6"50'.412... got camera phone proof if required LOL

That's still with an NA Supra with all the mods possible... including rear down force wing and NOS.


Just thought of another reason why you can drive the game a lot faster that in real life...... just think how short a time it takes you in the game to go from full turning lock to full lock in the other direction. To do that hand speed in real life is impossible.

Wow! Bloody impressive! Thats going to take some beating for sure, will be back when I have.

In the meantime, beat Bobbeh's time in the RZ to keep him quiet. :p :violin:

Have you tried the GT4 sterring wheel? 900 degrees lock-to-lock. Could prove your theory.

Steve W2
08-04-05, 08:36
How did you get that? I thought you had to complete one of the endurance races, or did you cheat? ;)

As Syed said, the 24 hour ring challenge :limp: needs to be won. What so haven't even done that yet? Puuphhhh, novice!!! :D

SimonB
08-04-05, 08:39
As Syed said, the 24 hour ring challenge :limp: needs to be won. What so haven't even done that yet? Puuphhhh, novice!!! :D

Does that mean you were actually sad enough to sit there for 24 hours playing GT4? I mean, I know you have no life, but... :tumble:

Steve W2
08-04-05, 08:43
Does that mean you were actually sad enough to sit there for 24 hours playing GT4? I mean, I know you have no life, but... :tumble:

No I put in on directors mode and left it for a day :woot: :thanku:

Rob
08-04-05, 13:25
No I put in on directors mode and left it for a day :woot: :thanku:


I've heard of this before, how crazy have we become when we play driving games because we can't afford to race cars in real life, then we get the driving game to play itself while we go to work?

Weird stuff...what level does your B-spec driver have to be to start winning races?

Ian C
08-04-05, 13:32
After that list of times I'm still not convinced the physics are right :) Beating the absolute bestest time ever by 20s in an NA on soft rubber lol

So now we've ascertained that the cars are indestructible, superpowered, and can go round on rails, can people at work stop harping on about how frickin' realistic it is? /rant

:flame: :D :dummy: :baa:

-Ian

Bobbeh
08-04-05, 14:31
Na, with NOS and exremely lightweight with all race car spec mods.. bah, like whats been said before, driving in the game = no risk whereas driving in real life around the ring = life/death.

SimonB
12-04-05, 23:50
You guys ought to try it with the ASM and TCS turned off, and with the display set to simple so you don't get the red suggested gear thing and the map. Try getting good times like that! :)

Bobbeh
13-04-05, 00:00
I only play with TCS etc turned off.

AJI
13-04-05, 08:57
TCS and all that anti-understeer / anti-oversteer aid is for whimps !! LOL

Still have to have the suggested gear left on for the last quarter of the track.... I know the first three quarters like the back of my hand now but its all those 3rd gear tight exit bends that still catch me out from time to time.

I'll have it all licked by the time we go over to do the track in real life in June !!

Bobbeh
13-04-05, 09:36
Dont rely on the game m8 for gods sake! :)

AJI
13-04-05, 12:22
Well the track in the game was 'Lidar-mapped'... they drove round it with GPS hooked upto terrain mapping equipment. So I guess it should be pretty accurate when it comes to the track layout.
What I guess the game won't replicate is all the bumps and surface grip changes.

But anyway... time will tell if you can learn a track from a game and drive it in real life thinking you know every corner.

My first laps in real life will always be 'sighting' laps... as with any new track layout. Usually two of these followed by gradually building up speed and experimenting with different lines.

Syed Shah
13-04-05, 18:53
ok.... just slapped a soft compound race tyre on and my new time is 6"50'.412... got camera phone proof if required LOL

That's still with an NA Supra with all the mods possible... including rear down force wing and NOS.




6'48.460, also with camera phone evidence. :D

That is 370HP (all mods) + 30HP shot of N20. Most other mods, full weight reduction etc. Definately a few seconds more left in the setup, perhaps even in the 6'30s with some suspension tuning.

Now beat it! :D

Bobbeh
13-04-05, 19:28
Nobody cares about your crappy NA. ;)

Syed Shah
13-04-05, 19:34
Lol! I will do it in the TT and trash your time, I promise! :D

Bobbeh
13-04-05, 20:12
I want you to. :) That was the idea about having a stock car challenge etc :)

NO tcs/acs etc, sports medium (default) tyres :D

AJI
14-04-05, 08:55
6'48.460, also with camera phone evidence. :D

Now beat it! :D


bugga !

Hmm.. don't know where I can easily find two seconds over my last time but will give it a go!
(I know those two banked corners can be a bit iffy.... if you slide over the top and onto the flat then you're into the barrier.. but if you hook it right into the inside you can keep your speed up. But still not sure whether the best way is to try and apex it like a proper corner or hook it into the banked area from the start?)

Also still going to do the stock TT challenge and will come back with times.

Gazboy
07-02-07, 03:35
Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I didn't want to be 'reposted'. This old RZ challenge- I presume even the tyres are as it stood straight from the crate?

First lap of 8:08

Not good...