Whifbitz NA-T kit

Im seriously considering going for this kit. I was going to take the car to Whifbitz and let them fit it but im confident that a guy that i know can fit it.

Who has actually fitted this kit themselves and is there any advice you would give? Any other parts/gaskets i might need to buy or is everything included in the kit?

We have decided that dropping the subframe may be the slightly easier option of removing the sump rather than lifting the engine/box out.

With the sump return pipe sorted, the rest of the installation looks fairly simple and straightforward.

Regarding the new ECU, how is it wired? Do you get some kind of lead to connect it? This is the only area we are a bit grey on.

Lastly are there any posts with a fitting guide that could be used for reference?

Never removed engine or subframe for the sump. If you're looking at that and have no idea on the ECU, I have worries you'll end up spending time learning and the labour cost will be higher than usual.

Changing the exhaust manifold for a turbo one and installing different intercooler pipe work is fairly straight forward.

Personally, I would just get Whifbitz to fit the kit. The installation, may be cheaper as there is less for them to learn. Unless it's a friend helping for an extremely low cost of course.

ECU's come with either an adaptor loom or needing wiring in. Emanage piggy back ECU is a typical NA-t ECU used. I have one for sale in the for sale section.

Whifbitz could supply, fit and map the setup for you. AEM v1 and v2 EMS is a commonly used standalone ECU.

There are lots of guides on what is needed. Just continue your research.

Whifbitz fit my own pieced together kit 7 years ago. We all know someone who could have a go. But Whifbitz have fit so many kits, it just makes sense.

Never removed engine or subframe for the sump. If you're looking at that and have no idea on the ECU, I have worries you'll end up spending time learning and the labour cost will be higher than usual.

 

Changing the exhaust manifold for a turbo one and installing different intercooler pipe work is fairly straight forward.

 

Personally, I would just get Whifbitz to fit the kit. The installation, may be cheaper as there is less for them to learn. Unless it's a friend helping for an extremely low cost of course.

 

ECU's come with either an adaptor loom or needing wiring in. Emanage piggy back ECU is a typical NA-t ECU used. I have one for sale in the for sale section.

 

Whifbitz could supply, fit and map the setup for you. AEM v1 and v2 EMS is a commonly used standalone ECU.

 

There are lots of guides on what is needed. Just continue your research.

 

Whifbitz fit my own pieced together kit 7 years ago. We all know someone who could have a go. But Whifbitz have fit so many kits, it just makes sense.

Heard a few bad stories with Whifbitz fitting the kit though. I dont want to go into detail as its not fair to bad mouth them without first hand experience.

I do know somebody that is capable of doing the ECU work, he does that for a living at a GTR specialist but just wanted a bit more info of how it is wired in. I believe the ECU Whifbitz reccomend is the Link Storm

Any more information on the stories?

Any more information on the stories?

It was nothing to do with their workmanship or the quality of the parts in the kit, it was more to do with timescale of the install. Im sure the people involved will post up if they see this thread.

I’m running the kit and it’s been great so far. I got my own intercooler and used an AEM v2 ECU as it’s just a case of plugging it in. The thing with these conversions is that there are a few different ways to go about the small jobs and there’s also a load of different variations that people start out with (gearbox being the main one).

My recommendation would be to fit all new ignition parts while you’re doing the build. Plugs, leads, coil and igniter all tend to be a bit tired and won’t be up to the extra requirements of turbo power. If you’ve got the cash, a coil pack conversion would be good.

I’ve got a set of injectors in the for sale section if you’d like to get an extra 100hp or so out of the base kit as well

I’m running the kit and it’s been great so far. I got my own intercooler and used an AEM v2 ECU as it’s just a case of plugging it in. The thing with these conversions is that there are a few different ways to go about the small jobs and there’s also a load of different variations that people start out with (gearbox being the main one).

 

My recommendation would be to fit all new ignition parts while you’re doing the build. Plugs, leads, coil and igniter all tend to be a bit tired and won’t be up to the extra requirements of turbo power. If you’ve got the cash, a coil pack conversion would be good.

 

I’ve got a set of injectors in the for sale section if you’d like to get an extra 100hp or so out of the base kit as well

Yeah, mines an auto so i believe i have to keep the original ECU to control the gearbox. Because of this it looks like the new ecu will have to be wired in unless Whifbitz can supply some kind of patch lead. Hopefully they can also put a rough map on the ecu just to get the car running and driveable.

Most of the ignition components have already been replaced not long ago.

Ill be happy enough with the expected 360HP to be honest. Im not looking for mega power, just something that will make the car a bit more fun and give the sound that we all crave. Yours sounds great in the video, that turbo whistle is gorgeous.

In terms of ECU, you can either go with a emanage ultimate piggyback which requires minimal wiring to get you up and running. For a low boost, stock injector setup this is a decent option as a stopgap until you do standalone/manual conversion at some point.

If you want to go straight into a standalone then commonly either Syvecs or Link ECU's are used in the UK. Both can be wired up in "piggyback" mode so stock ECU is retained to control autobox but everything else will run through standalone. Not sure if Whifbitz offers a plug and play harness adapter for this, or if they hardwire it in themselves. Either way, it's possible. Probably worth asking them what route they normally do.

The whifbitz kit itself is a piece of piss to fit. Hardest bit as mentioned will be drilling the sump for oil return. Everything else is bolt on, assuming you aren't scared of a spanner.

Have installed a few of these kits and last one I tuned did 450hp/450 torque at the wheels at 1.3 bar boost. Turbo still had more to go as well, just had issues with dizzy starting to misfire with more boost. So kits more than capable of making power, and so far haven't had any reliability issues with the components of the kit.

In terms of ECU, you can either go with a emanage ultimate piggyback which requires minimal wiring to get you up and running. For a low boost, stock injector setup this is a decent option as a stopgap until you do standalone/manual conversion at some point.

 

If you want to go straight into a standalone then commonly either Syvecs or Link ECU's are used in the UK. Both can be wired up in "piggyback" mode so stock ECU is retained to control autobox but everything else will run through standalone. Not sure if Whifbitz offers a plug and play harness adapter for this, or if they hardwire it in themselves. Either way, it's possible. Probably worth asking them what route they normally do.

 

The whifbitz kit itself is a piece of piss to fit. Hardest bit as mentioned will be drilling the sump for oil return. Everything else is bolt on, assuming you aren't scared of a spanner.

 

Have installed a few of these kits and last one I tuned did 450hp/450 torque at the wheels at 1.3 bar boost. Turbo still had more to go as well, just had issues with dizzy starting to misfire with more boost. So kits more than capable of making power, and so far haven't had any reliability issues with the components of the kit.

Thanks for the info. Ive been looking at the kit for a while, and as you say it looks simple to fit, just the sump that requires a fair bit of faffing to get the thing off. Do you get all the gaskets needed in the kit?

i need to do some more research on the ECU options. The emanage ultimate sounds like it could be ideal for what i want.