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Hey guys,

 

not been around here for years now since I had to sell my Jspec TT around 7 years ago due to circumstance :(

 

Have relocated out of the UK now, but this forum's a lot more active and full of info than many of the others out here so back again :D

 

 

So, I've finally pulled my finger out and picked up:

 

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'97SZ with a 2JZ transplant mated to a 5 speed. Got it for a bargain price (the equivalent of around 2 grand uk), I could easily break it and get more back so I'm v happy with the purchase..

 

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It's not in great condition - have seen better, have seen worse.. She's been sprayed in matte black, not something I've come been with before so no idea how detailable it is. I actually really like the stealth fighter look for a track car, so I think I'll keep the colour scheme. The more I look at the front bumper the more I actually like it - it needs some fibreglass repairs which I will try and DIY.

 

The overall plan is:

 

1) strip and rebuild engine, crank, bearings, seals, (pistons, rods etc? Not sure how far I'll go here)

2) strip back paint, LOTS of carbon fibre.. would love a wide body but I don't has the skills. I want to get as much of the work done myself as possible, but might conceed for a nice bright paint job being most of my cars and bikes end up black.

3) Brakes, suspension, wheels, interior

 

It's road registered and ready to go so ultimately I want a fast road car which will handle the track without any issues. I was aiming at 500 bhp but the reason I bought it was to save modding my beemer where 500 is close to the ceiling and hard to get to - so I think I'll be happy with around 700bhp ultimately.

 

Spec list is below (will be adding to it as I make a few decisions)

 

Have / have ordered:

 

ACL race series bearings

Turbo timer

Boost Gauge

FMIC

50mm radiator/fan setup

Head gasket (oem)

New oem oil pump

New oem water pump

Wiseco Pistons

Eagle rods

Rear strut

Bride fixed carbon seats

4 point harnesses

Bosche 044 pump - good for 685 bhp so am going to call that my ceiling - do not like the idea of a twin setup at all although may look into a swirl pot and inline pumps..

Carbon fibre dash facsia

Black leather dash with red stitching

OMP red alcantara steering wheel / boss kit

 

To be had:

8 pot K-sport brakes up front, big oem brakes moved to the back if possible - or will just go for a new kit. May be tempted to brembos but the 3-4k price disparancy is putting me off..

800cc injectors

Crank inished / forged crank replacement/conrods

ARP rod bolts

ARP head bolts

ARP main bolts

Full exhaust

V160 as I don't think the W58 will last too long

 

 

Single turbo setup tbc

 

Porsche GT2/GT3 is the sort of inspiration I'm going for. A track prepped car that is still functional and a nice place to be - with a lot of weight saving. I'm going to carpet over the back once everything's out, rollcage and rear strut in, race seats etc. Sticking to the stealth fighter scheme in a way.

 

I also want to come up with a way of minimizing the amount of aftermarket gauges for this same reason - a screen in the double din slot which could show diagnostics is ideal

 

edit: decided on a Nexus 7 tab, and a bluetooth box with llama installed to keep the power routine on key.

 

Any suggestions or comments or ideas with what way I need to go to acheive the power etc would be awesome :) Here goes nothing!

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cheers guys ^ yup nailed it :) It's actually (kinda) cold here at the mo but the halo lights in the garage have me sweating soon enough!

 

If the crank pistons rods etc are all good for the power I'm chasing I'll give it a miss, but if not it'l be silly not to uprate while it's open.. Reliability is pretty important too..

 

So I made a start today:

 

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engine just needs to be drained of oil and a few bolts and it'l be ready to go on the stand :)

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Not much to write home about at the moment

 

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Started stripping the interior, found some bride's going for a good price :) Carbon stradia jobbies. so will probably go that way, with a roll cage/harness. I've found a few harnesses that seem to bolt on to the existing back seat seatbelt points.

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Interior got stripped out firstly:

 

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and re-spoilered with the oem spoiler. Not sure what I want to replace this with but I'm liking the idea of keeping it matte black/carbon as the colour scheme

 

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The paint isn't as bad as the photos make it look - the car is just filthy.

 

busy couple of evenings means the engine is out pretty drama free..

 

Tips I learned? The front section - manifold peice is a prick to unbolt. I undid it further down and removed the engine with it on. Clutch and fuel return were also awkward so I removed with them attached and gently moved the lump forwards before removing them. Weren't really any suprises, followed the workshop manual going round removing bits and peices.

 

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Will get the gearbox off tomorrow and have it on the stand and start stripping it down.

 

Block will be steam cleaned and having the crank checked, then will decided if I either replace it, or re-use it.

 

About to order some Manley rods, possibly CP pistons/knockles and ACL bearings for the rods.

 

Has anyone heard of Branners Racing stateside? they have a nice looking balanced crank for sale but tbh I haven't heard anything of them before..

 

Also going to strip the turbos off and take them for pricing for refurb inc steel wheels. Strip down runs at $125 a turbo refunded if I have any work done or source a new turbo through the company - if it works out cheap enough I might do it as a temporary 'get me on the road till I know what route I'm going'.

 

In other news have ordered some Bride Stradia carbon seats, rear strut and harnesses.

 

I'm thinking of stripping the heater/air con/sound deadening for a bit of weight saving before I bolt in seats - not sure how far to go for the quest of lightness as I still want a car that I can take on the road from time to time - and it does get bloody hot here.

 

I don't know if it's due to the transplant being done relatively recently before I bought the car (it's only got 90k kms on the clock) or what the history of the car is but it's amazingly rust free. Body and components. All bolts have come together with a teeny bit of pursuation and I haven't had to resort to blowtorches and dremels.. The body is rust and dent free, bar a dodgy bit of paint on the front left wing - which I think gets covered by the bumper anyway..

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small bit of progress. 'hmm I might shed a bit of weight' turned into 'fk it, tear everything out'. I'm going to retain the roof liner, pillars and cabin trim so it's still a bit snug with a bit of sound dampning (didn't fancy getting the heat gun out anyway ;))

 

Next stop, dash to come out, heater matrix binned then should have nothing but the essentials. Just pushed a wheelie bin full of trim, speaker pods etc out and it weighed a tonne. Should also simple up the engine bay to just the power steering pump and essential wiring left.

 

I have put the feelers out for a cost to cover the dash in Suede / Alcantara - Grey with red thread. Will see what the cost comes back as, anything up to a grand I'm happy but thinking it will be closer to two so may not bother.

 

I also want the dash trim to be carbon but don't like wrap, has to be the real deal so will see what I can find.

I'm generally a bit horny when it comes to carbon.

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few shots of the interior coming apart...

 

Wanted to try remove the matrix without the crash bar - not going to happen. It wasn't that big an effort to take the bar out though.

 

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shiney rad and intercooler..

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More weight saving and stripping going on.

 

Heater matrix out, trying to figure out what electrics I can trim.

 

AC pump, rad and piping now out.

 

Have filled up two wheelie bins, apparantly saving almost 100 kilos from what I've read on a few threads. I should have / still could weigh it all, but I'm very lazy. Removed: rear seats, front seats, heater matrix, ac pump and piping/radiator, rear speaker pods, rear sub pods, boot trim, all heater ducting, arial, tool kit. Added to the fact that the new exhaust will be lighter, as well as the brakes and wheels should mean that I see a good reduction.

 

Bride fixed seats on their way and will arrive during the week which weigh around 10kg a piece.

 

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Started to strip the block down. Turbos gone (very little play and seem in good nick other than being in peices), intake manifold gone, electrics stripped, a lot of the anciliaries removed, Cam gears, camshaft out. To go: remove head (my 10mm hex bit actually snapped when undoing with a torque wrench. Bugger.

Then the oilpan and crank, then off to have the block steam cleaned and possibly the head too.

 

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The more parts I pull apart the more I appreciate how good a condition it is beneath the skin - my '94 GZ had been a bit molested with subs and lights - and had a lot of deteriorating plastics, broken clips and plastics, starter motor issues, a few coolant pipes that were brittle and little areas of rust. The heat and dry weather must work wonders..

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cheers bud :) not sure if it's brave or stupid! But I guess a lot of noise and being covered in sweat will add to the 'sense of occasion' when I jump in it :eyebrows: Won't be me daily driver on the plus side, and with a bit of luck it will stop the mrs wanting to take it out too hehe.

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been ill for the week not to mention rushed off my feet and wanted to feel like I'd made a bit of progress, then a few bits started turning up :)

 

Bride carbon lomax reps, the cheapest I Could find just to see if I actually liked them first as I was torn between these and something like the recaro sportster. I LOVE the sportsters, but figured a fixed seat looks more supportive.. A friend has them from factory in his clio RS and they're very comfy - but I figure as it's not going to be a road focused machine I don't need to worry about being soft on the arse.. The reps are as comfy as the real deal which I've now tried, only real difference is the padding by the base/leg support not being split - truth be told that's one design feature I hate about brides anyway. they weigh slim to fa and I'm a sucker for carbon fibre..

 

Paired them up with some G-Force harnesses, FIA approved and generally v happy with them. Nice feeling camlock system, good price, nice and adjustable. and red :). Playing about with mount points, the sub box holes are the perfect height but seems like the bolts are a bit on the thin side..

 

Using the oem rear seatbelt points could be a go, but a) the seatbelt mech points are behind the trim so could mean some fouling of the belt b) the centre belt point means two harnesses off the same bolt which I'd like to avoid from a loading point of view.

 

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Also had another jap arrival in the form of a GSXR for the daily commute :)

 

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new dash covering should arrive next week. I couldn't find a read carbon fibre facsia and no one around to hydrodip (plus not seen any great results in person yet) so am going to wrap it in carbon for now to set it off nicely against the rest of the interior. like the idea of some racey toggle switches too but no idea what they'd actually control. Hopefully won't need to go gauges and will tackle that with the nexus - otherwise will recycle the heater control spaces as they're now redundant.

 

:sly:

 

I also removed the under passenger seat amp and associated wiring today..

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Nice seats mate. Any links to where you got them?

 

Should be a great track toy when done or find some Aussie unrestricted roads but watch out for road trains lol!

 

I got them from a local seller over here - he advertises on ebay every now and then - provided the wrong rails but sorted it out easily enough! Ha thats the plan, hopefully it'l be quick enough to dodge the road trains and 'roos ;)

 

Be careful with replica seats. Good luck with the project.

 

Cheers :) gave some genuine Brides a go, comfort wise they were exactly the same, and general build quality were very similar - owing any hidden quality issues should be fine :) I more opted for the reps because I didn't know how they'd tie in with the interior, rather waste a grand than three!

 

Not much progress as I'm waiting for my new leather dash to arrive and omp steering wheel.

 

Decided to have a tidy up as it was getting all a bit busy in there. Removed the sliders from the seats and mounted them directly on the rails so they're truly fixed and low.

 

Also got my boss in (Daikei. ALL jap instructions but simple enough.)

 

Turns out, although I have a 3 - spoke airbag wheel, it doesn't seem that it was standard as there was no wiring to the airbag or cruise control - just one spade connector which I can only assume was for the horn, Will investigate more tomorrow, bit of a waste shelling out on an airbag boss..

 

Tidied the loom up, tied it in to the bar/trim where I could, etc.

 

 

Decided I'm going to finish off the interior being that I haven't ordered engine parts just yet. All that's left inside:

 

1) fit leather dash

2) refit dash

3) steering wheel

4) new dials/lighting

5) tablet mounted in double din

6) carpet where back seats were

7) fit rear strut / cage if I source one.

 

Then it'l be full throttle on the engine build come pay day..

 

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hopefully should have some more significant progress over the next week!

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Good progress mate - keep it up.

 

So you've had the dash retrimmed in leather have you?

 

Cheers :)

 

I actually found a place that could fab up the leather for me here as a skin - so it's a case of glueing, stretching and clamping it myself (or taking it down to the shop but I want to try do as much myself - just to say I have :) ) If it gets here today/tomorrow I'll hopefully give it a jab over the weekend :)

 

Not sure if they're making it large enough to fit over the OEM or if I'd need to peel it back and prep the surfaces.

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another delivery for the rear end.. Wanted to go roll cage but am undecided - It's proving difficult to source a bolt in here, and a roll cage is illegal on the road so if I weld one (a halfie) in then if I get defected theeen it's a nightmare to remove..

 

Not expecting the rear strut to really do anything, but there ya go..

 

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Think I'm going to stick with the rear strut for now and as things progress I'll look into a cage.. they don't make it easy...

 

sold a few bits (passenger seat, exhaust, rear trim, seatbelts) :)

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more playing with the interior today and I carpetted the back to give a slightly more OEM feel that I Was after..

 

Hard to show on photos because of the limited room in the garage to angle photos but I'm *really* happy with it which isn't something I say often when working on a car. Came up really well - still some tweaking to done as far as nip and tucking is concerned, but happy so far - juuust got enough carpet too which is a bonus.. took about an hour and a half whilst watching the apprentice :lol:

 

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still got to think about the anchor points and seats aren't fully down so may look wonky.. Intentionally went for charcoal/grey instead of black as it just lightened things up a little in there and contrasts nicely with the seats

 

it was just a case of pick a corner to start on and then hack away with a stanley knife and knead it into position. Will contact adheisive it in a couple of spots in corners etc so it can be ripped out for whatever reason but generally keeps it shape. the carpet has a pretty clingy back anyway thoguh so shouldnt need to.

 

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I can't wait to move to a bigger garage to finish the build!

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turned my attention back to the engine for a half hour today:

 

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Things look in good nick on first look

 

Next to strip the second turbo off the head, not had any problems removing bolts due to my massive... torque wrench, but how the hell anyone is supposed to get the angle on some of the turbo/manifold bolts is beyond me..

 

a few ancillaries to remove, then will flip the motor and pull the pan, crank, rods and pistons have the block cleaned and see where we need to go from there. Still debating if to rebuild the short block or just order in a brand new one or a built one.. time will tell!

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Started the dash today :)

 

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Rough fitted outside the car before I started sealing it on (contact adheisive)

 

 

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Though the driver's side is a good fit the passengers will need stretching and forming - it will look a lot more complete when I've made a few trims and replaced things like the upper glove box etc which I hope to do tonight

 

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slowly but surely starting to look like a supra again in there..

 

 

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happy with the drivers side of the dash, the passenger's needs tweaking

 

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high strength upholstery contact adhisive used which is quite forgiving, any lumps under the leather roll out. May look into stretching the passenger's side with water

Would like my wheel and carbon to turn up soon!

 

really I'm just poking around with the inside because I'm still not 100% on what way to go with the engine. being on this half of the world sucks at times, 2600 could land me a built bottom end from whifbitz (which is a great price but the exchange rate makes that $5k) which is double the cost of me building it (but between starting a new business and the day job may mean it takes longer).

 

In other news I've agreed a sale of the w58 to a gent who wants to manualise is v8 soarer..which means a 6 speed just got cheaper (but I've found an e46 m3 box for the same price as my w58 which is a very interesting proposition. I could fully rebuild it, mod it and still potentially be ahead compared to a v160/161. (found a realatively cheap one - it doesn't look in good condtion.)

 

Also been toying with the auto/uprated/paddle setup but lack of support on this side of the globe puts me off..

 

until next time..

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