Guest Stiener27 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Hi all I have an auto NA and was wondering what kind of price you would pay for a decent TT engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor69 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 2-2.5k I think .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_sri Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Or go na-t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Depends what sort of a gain you're after. You could do an auto v8 (1UZ) swap cheaply, and that would net you around 30hp more plus more torque. If you're wanting to take things further, you have various options, the cheapest of which is to sell your car and buy a turbo one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 *Shudders* Ask yourself is your N/A different? IE have you forked out thousands to get it to look how you want, its it an Aero or a 6 speed. If the answer is no to these then sell it and buy a TT and save yourself the hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 You can get a TT engine for around £1500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Not sure i'd bother with the v8 for such a little gain. if your chasing hp sell up and go find a tt with a nice single conversion on it with say around 600 hp. That should keep you happy for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 V8 TT if your going V8. NA-T if you really love yor car. Sell it and buy a single Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) You have the wrong gearbox for any serious upgrades. If you want pain, keep the car. Otherwise sell it. 400bhp NA-t is proven a better choice. Though you won't see as good return on your payout. This forum will argue otherwise (being run by TT owners you would expect that though). Though there was even a mag feature recently all about it, power vs cost. 450+ Sell the car and go TT. It's all about the transmission and not the engine. The only benefit on the engine is it's lower compression, any other design benefit (oil squirters / ignition setup; coils) are challenged with the engine replacement cost. Also, I have a statistic for you. 98% of NA-t owners will want more than 400hp. The 2% is the people that weren't asked. Probably won't find an NA-t owner that wish he had a 6 speed and wish they had started that way in the first place. Edited March 12, 2014 by Noz (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I would suggest the cost of NA-T vs beating TT owners is priceless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott87 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 You have the wrong gearbox for any serious upgrades. If you want pain, keep the car. Otherwise sell it. 400bhp NA-t is proven a better choice. Though you won't see as good return on your payout. This forum will argue otherwise (being run by TT owners you would expect that though). Though there was even a mag feature recently all about it, power vs cost. 450+ Sell the car and go TT. It's all about the transmission and not the engine. The only benefit on the engine is it's lower compression, any other design benefit (oil squirters / ignition setup; coils) are challenged with the engine replacement cost. Also, I have a statistic for you. 98% of NA-t owners will want more than 400hp. The 2% is the people that weren't asked. Probably won't find an NA-t owner that wish he had a 6 speed and wish they had started that way in the first place. I don't want a 6 speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I bought a complete 1JZTT for £600. Best £600 I ever spent. It's kinder to a W58 as well, compared to a 2JZTT or NA/TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I don't want a 6 speed Didn't know your NA-t was running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I dont want a speed , the david p hybrid auto box is by far the most cost affective way of holding bigger power . using a clutch is too much like hard work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I dont want a speed , the david p hybrid auto box is by far the most cost affective way of holding bigger power . using a clutch is too much like hard work Hopefully your be the man to find it's limits. I'm gonna be gutted if my R154 doesn't hold as much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott87 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Didn't know your NA-t was running? Low! Hahaha it is running, just one more mapping session needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_sri Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Hopefully your be the man to find it's limits. I'm gonna be gutted if my R154 doesn't hold as much! What's R154 melting territory then lol?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I am sure Noz will find out eventually!!! you dont want a six speed anyway, they are rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I'm going the David P route with mine. TT auto with a shimmed up NA valve body. Simplifies the paddle shift setup no end. The V160, while tough, has a lifeless shift with little feed back. The R154 is a truck box and while it's strong is not without it's issues, like chocolate thrust washers and layshafts. The shift is quite agricultural too and second can be a real arse when the oil is cold. I ran mine on AFT which made it better. I pushed 590 lbs/ft though my R154 and it lived, that might have been the 6 paddle clutch slipping that saved it though. My previous champion of strength the TKO600 was poo pooed by Craig at Dyno Torque, he said the new gen t56 and t66 six speed boxes are stronger and nice to drive, T66 (i think that is the designation) does 750lbs/ft oem rated so 1000->1200lbs in the real world. Circa £1800 new. How much is a V160 these days 3.5k second hand? Lyndon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I am sure Noz will find out eventually!!! you dont want a six speed anyway, they are rubbish I'd like to be pushing enough to brake one. It mean's I've a whole lot of fun to have before it goes pop! What's R154 melting territory then lol?? I'd say anything above 500hp would be considered finding it's limit. Others say much higher, but I've read of all sorts of failures. Can't find a common one. Though there seems to be common upgrades for them such as washers etc. If I go that route, I'll do as much as I can. Gearbox rebuild for a washer seems pointless (seen it done). They are indeed, as Lyndon says truck boxes. R154 is from the series of toyota AWD/RWD truck boxes. Funny really! My previous champion of strength the TKO600 was poo pooed by Craig at Dyno Torque, he said the new gen t56 and t66 six speed boxes are stronger and nice to drive, T66 (i think that is the designation) does 750lbs/ft oem rated so 1000->1200lbs in the real world. Circa £1800 new. How much is a V160 these days 3.5k second hand? Lyndon. I've a 6 puk clutch also dude. I'm hoping that gives up before the transmission. I'd like to say gone are my days of dragging. But I know they probably aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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