Guest Budz86 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Just seen this on SF....wtf!? Never heard of this happening before! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Wow, that makes me wanna change mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Makes you think when lots of members replace the bushes rather than the whole arm ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Wow, that makes me wanna change mine. The trouble is by the time you price up all the arms with ball joints your not going to want to ! That's before you pay to remove the old ones fit the new ones then have a full geo done I'd definitely replace the lower fronts with complete arms if i had another mkiv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Jeeze! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Parts deffo aint cheap, circa £2.5k for all of them iirc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Parts deffo aint cheap, circa £2.5k for all of them iirc! More than that going by prices i paid several years ago, that was for the whole lot though inc new adjusters etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Near side front, may have hit something heavily in it's life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Parts deffo aint cheap, circa £2.5k for all of them iirc! It's not really a huge price when your life's on the line. Worth doing imo if they can just fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 It's not really a huge price when your life's on the line. Worth doing imo if they can just fail. Agreed, but not exactly pocket change! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaan W Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Agreed, but not exactly pocket change! lol No definitely not ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrashcanman Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 bloomin heck! It is a fair old wack, but probably worth it. Although probably like Nic said the NS/F has hit something quite heavily in its life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Looking at how ludicrously low that car is is it any wonder a ball joint has failed? People just lower away with no concept of what it's doing to the suspension kinematics. As I have said before, just a matter of time before EU legislation bans suspension mods on road cars, and it'll be wazzacks like that who have brought it on. A car that low is both on the bump rubbers most of the time, and either out of, or perilously close to being out of, permitted lower ball joint articulation. I bet there are those who see the first photo and think, "Oooh, that looks cool, how's he got that much camber?........ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Is that this part that has let go ? http://bit.ly/1nF2bVv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Anyone got a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Is that this part that has let go ? http://bit.ly/1nF2bVv Looking at the dates, it looks like they're for a mk3. Cheap though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Looking at how ludicrously low that car is is it any wonder a ball joint has failed? People just lower away with no concept of what it's doing to the suspension kinematics. As I have said before, just a matter of time before EU legislation bans suspension mods on road cars, and it'll be wazzacks like that who have brought it on. A car that low is both on the bump rubbers most of the time, and either out of, or perilously close to being out of, permitted lower ball joint articulation. I bet there are those who see the first photo and think, "Oooh, that looks cool, how's he got that much camber?........ . You're wasting your breath sadly Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iky Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Is that this part that has let go ? http://bit.ly/1nF2bVv No, it seems to be the lower more expensive one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Is that this part that has let go ? http://bit.ly/1nF2bVv No, bottom arm, outer ball joint. On the JZA80 suspension design this joint tries to separate via tension in bump. If the suspension is constantly riding the bump stops, the loadings go through the roof. In times of yore evey man and his dog (and seller of suspension "stuff" in Car and car Conversions) was touting plastic rear radius arm bushes for Opel Kadetts and Vauxhall Chevettes. I hadn't the confidence I have now so was loathe to discuss what I feared, that being the original void bushes (rubber bushes with gaps in the periphery to allow controlled articulation in various carefully considered planes), was not going to be matched by hard plastic bushes that could only rotate in one plane. When I started seeing rear floor pn sheet metal cracking due to te massive twisting forces the rear axle applied in roll to the floor, I realized I perhaps wasn't as daft as I looked and a life long interest in suspension kinematics started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOGIE Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I think people who drive "slammed" cars confuse a weird handling car with a well handling car. Sadly they probably have no idea what a well setup car feels like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulj1 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 This happened to Tom (T-bone) last year couple days of creaking then bang lucky enough he was just pulling out of a car park rather than doing 70 on the motorway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 just replaced both of my fronts last year because i felt a small movement in them. You cannot relace just the ball joint, the whole lower arm comes as one peice so it's expensive but you are getting new bushings. 540ish euro for both all new from MR-T. CW is right, I have yet to drive a lowered car that handled better than stock. And the stress on those ball joints is not worth the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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