ripped_fear Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Took the supra out yesterday for the first time in two weeks and worked perfect. Jus gone outside to leave my partners and nothing its just clicking like the starters gone or something, but yesterday it was fine. The car is parked rear first on a gradient so cant push it out. Any idea on how to get the thing to fire up?! Thanks jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleshead Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Is the battery just flat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 Is the battery just flat? nope just put a battery charger on it and its showing its fine, also all lights etc come on full brightness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBDevelopments Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 do your dash lights dim when you turn the starter key and leave it in place for a second? Like turtleshead said above its very likely your battery as Toyota will kick the solenoid and starter tooth out making the click but not actually turn the starter or engine when the battery is going dead. Also check to see if your battery terminals are tight as this can also lead to that. Failing starters usually tend to be a little intermittent for a few weeks before totally failing so i'm be looking at battery for sure. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBDevelopments Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 lol typed that while you were posting. Check your terminals, does everything else work fine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 The battery is only a year and a bit old, so shouldn't be the issue. Also terminals are nice and tight. Just clicking being the issue. Even if I manage to get it on level ground im not sure it will bump start as its just clicking and not cranking over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleshead Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Check fuses, I think the starter circuit is fused through AM2. Also give the starter relay a tap... They can stick when old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBDevelopments Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 if batterys nice and tight and everything works electrical wise it could be pointing towards a dodgy starter i'm afraid. Try the knock like turtleshead said to see if its sticking. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 ok is that under the bonnet fuse box yeah? Also where is the starter realy? I don't even know the location of the starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleshead Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Yeah under the bonnet. Starter relay is the relay closest to the engine in the fusebox, up near the red power-in terminal. Starter is under the intake at the back, about in line with the charcoal cannister. As crude as it sounds try giving the starter a gentle tap... The contacts could be old and sticky. Failing all that, tow it out onto the road and bumpstart the fucker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 ok just gave it a few taps no joy. Don't want to burn the starter out as it lightly smoked after a while. Any other suggestions as towing involves removing the rmm lip, and in the rain and dark that's going to be an issue so would will have to wait till tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safcdixon Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Try rocking the car back and forth whilst on the starter too it may free it up if thats the cause, could it be an alarm/imobilser problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 Rocking the car is a no go unfortunately due to it being on a steep gradient. It could be alarm or immobiliser issues however it seem to lean away from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBDevelopments Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 if its smoking then something is seizing it up by the sounds of it so more mechanical than electrical. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) ok cheers, do you think bumping it would free it up?? Edited January 5, 2014 by ripped_fear (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 Got my other car up here now, will remove the lip and tow her out and try bumping it. Not sure it will bump tho as its not cranking? Am I right in thinking this? Will update when I can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleshead Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Before you attempt to bump it, make sure that the starter is not stuck out and engaged with the flywheel, locking it solid. To check, put a spanner/ 22mm socket on the front of the crank and see if you can spin the engine when it's in neutral. It should bump ok. Ignition on, in gear, roll along lift the clutch.... Theoretically lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Does it sound like a very quiet machine gun, repetitive clicking? Or 1 click? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 Before you attempt to bump it, make sure that the starter is not stuck out and engaged with the flywheel, locking it solid. To check, put a spanner/ 22mm socket on the front of the crank and see if you can spin the engine when it's in neutral. It should bump ok. Ignition on, in gear, roll along lift the clutch.... Theoretically lol. Ok shall do thanks for the advice. Theretically if I cant spin it what would be my options? Does it sound like a very quiet machine gun, repetitive clicking? Or 1 click? Repetitive clicking, iv had this before but my battery was a gonna, this time the battery appears fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 It's a flat battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBDevelopments Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 thats just screaming dead battery to me mate Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulley Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Turn your main beams on, if they're pretty dull and get worse when you attempt to crank then it's battery I'd lights seem bright then it may be a poor earth to the starter/or poor power feed to starter Or carbon build up on starter solenoid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayfun.tugra Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 If its not the battery playing up in cold damp weather... Dare I suggest a ground to the starter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 Ok guys I shall swap out the battery and put my Passat one on and see if that solves it before cranking it. The charger is showing its all good though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 Not the battery 100%, just put the supra battery in the Passat and fired straight up. Lip finally off after much struggling need to find the tow rope now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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