New and looking at going NA-T

Hi all

Felt abit silly signing up as I don't have a supra lol, however I'll be selling my car soon and looking to get one after ages of waiting to be a proud owner. Now Ideally I want a 6 speed tt but the extra price they ask for seems to high for me so I was thinking of going 5 speed NA-T as I like external gates with screamers and the kick of big single turbos as I feel a tt auto will be too smooth and not feel as fast

Now I'm a mechanic so fitting etc is no problem, I'll be looking at the 400hp range (must be as quick as my old car lol). Now I've done a fair bit of research but there's just a few more things I would like cleared up before going this route over tt auto.

- Would the whifbitz kit running 0.5 bar be reliable and solid on a totally stock NA apart from me updating the clutch.

- are the loss of oil squirters really going to effect reliability in the long run

- could I just get away with a TT head gasket and arp's and upping the boost more without changing pistons?

- finally what's the best ECU to go for rather than piggy back as from what I read the na gets a big timing advance at 4.5k rpm and likely to cause DET

Overall I would be looking for a strong bullet proof reliable 400hp maybe later on push more (with r154), if I did get tt pistons/HG/ARP's could I run 500hp reliable for example as I understand GE has same crank and rods as the GTE. Lastly would a 400hp na-t be able to compete against a bpu tt in a straight line.

Thanks

Welcome

Pay the £10 membership fee and the you will have access to some great information!

This forum already holds the answers to your questions.

Please research. The benefit is you will also learn much more than you ask in this thread.

Ok the main thing I'm worried about is oil squirters, I'm getting mixed views some say doesn't matter and others seem to think its a bad idea turbo'ing without oil squirters, just looking for confirmation on actual na-t owners and there experience

You will find a few people who run big power 2JZ's running NA bottom ends to eradicate the oil squirters among other bonuses(cost etc).

I think I saw Jamie P post saying that there was a discussion as to whether the oil squirters unbalanced the piston at high power/high revs.

I know big turbo ones don't run them however I would imagine there forged pistons and probly only run 1/4 miles at a time where as I'll be doing a lot of road use and wouldn't want excessive temps going on

I really can't wait to have a supra, pretty certain of going NA-T and starting a new project

I believe the stock internals are good for circa 700-800bhp, so you shouldn't need forged rods/pistons etc:)

Ok cool so not a stress or worry for a GE at 400hp

No worries at all mate! They're a good strong lump, with potential to take decent power:)

Read through Rich.2211's NA-T thread. That's someone who's taken the time to do it right, without spending a huge amount and he recently ran a 12.9 1/4 mile @116mph -whilst only running 7.5 PSI of boost!

Welcome aboard mate

I believe the stock internals are good for circa 700-800bhp, so you shouldn't need forged rods/pistons etc:)

You need to expand on that comment, and explain new bearings would be recommended for over 500 and also a lower compression. Many variables to consider, though many standard recommendations have been beaten or ignored without fatal results.

I understand above 400 I will need bigger injectors, bigger fuel pump and sufficient intercooler and lower the compression, I was thinking of going the route of TT headgasket and arp's to lower and aim for a bullet proof 400+ Ideally (don't want to strain to many internals as I would want to keep this for along time)

I understand above 400 I will need bigger injectors, bigger fuel pump and sufficient intercooler and lower the compression, I was thinking of going the route of TT headgasket and arp's to lower and aim for a bullet proof 400+ Ideally (don't want to strain to many internals as I would want to keep this for along time)

I'm running 400bhp with stock injectors, stock fuel rail, stock fuel pump, stock HG. In a nut shell I just bolted a turbo on turned the boost up to 6.5psi. The only extra was fitting a Custom Front facing inlet manifold (FFIM).

If your on face book click on the link below in my signature, its a page called team na-t ran by a few members on here

I understand above 400 I will need bigger injectors, bigger fuel pump and sufficient intercooler and lower the compression, I was thinking of going the route of TT headgasket and arp's to lower and aim for a bullet proof 400+ Ideally (don't want to strain to many internals as I would want to keep this for along time)

I'm running 400bhp with stock injectors, stock fuel rail, stock fuel pump, stock HG. In a nut shell I just bolted a turbo on turned the boost up to 6.5psi. The only extra was fitting a Custom Front facing inlet manifold (FFIM).

If your on face book click on the link below in my signature, its a page called team na-t ran by a few members on here

Thanks just 'liked' the page

welcome!! you will find plenty of info about going NA-T on here!!

Thanks, getting it all planned out now, just deciding on what ECU to go for now