Tuning development / mappers in the northwest (NA-T)

Has anyone used these guys in Warrington? http://www.tuningdevelopments.co.uk/

I'm looking for mappers in the northwest area?

I would be willing to travel abit for somewhere that was experienced with na-t's

Seems to ring a bell, maybe I have seen a Glanza V with their stickers

Are they the ones round the corner from Thelwall motors?

EDIT: Make sure they were never known as RC Developments!!!!

EDIT EDIT: See it DP Motorsport are still on Astmoor. Top of Brindley Road. They're the nuts!!

A turbo petrol engine is a turbo petrol engine. Choose the mapper based on their experience with your ECU and general experience. I would travel the length and breadth of the counrty to find a suitable mapper and a suitable mapping facility, rather than try and find someone in your own locale. Trailer hire is cheap.

Are they the ones round the corner from Thelwall motors?

 

EDIT: Make sure they were never known as RC Developments!!!!

 

EDIT EDIT: See it DP Motorsport are still on Astmoor. Top of Brindley Road. They're the nuts!!

Il find out, all I know us there based somewhere around birchwood?

Not sure dude. I left in 2007 and AWD Racetech (where I used to work) closed in 2008. DP were the dogs danglies in Runcorn. Failing that, Pete at Waxacar has had some fast cars played with, he'll know someone capable.

After today dude. Find someone who knows there shit rather than just as experience with that setup , make sure they are similar with the software, I will be finding someone with a lot more supra knowledge in ture

Not sure dude. I left in 2007 and AWD Racetech (where I used to work) closed in 2008. DP were the dogs danglies in Runcorn. Failing that, Pete at Waxacar has had some fast cars played with, he'll know someone capable.

cheers pal will look into it.

jimmys bpu supra - anyone on here? https://en-gb.facebook.com/TuningDevelopments

some good reviews, I might pop over and have a chat with them, I would still be interested to see where other na-t's have gone for there map??

who did you use nick?

It still confuses me why people go to the `nearest` tuner. You spent thousands on your engine, then only want to travel 50quid's worth of fuel to get the whole engine blown to bits.

I drove 5 hours each way to get my car dyno'ed last time. The best experience I ever had. If your getting your car tuned get someone who has worked on that ECU and it's parameters. Knowing their stuff on engines is all well and good, but being able to apply that experience through software is useless if they don't even have it.

I highly recommend going to Austec. I have dude's mobile number for problems. The customer service is great, I messed them around on booking dates and they were fine. If I had an issue on the day, they got the parts in to do the job.

Trust me, the drive to anywhere highly recommended is worth it. BUT please only go with someone who recommends a tuner where they have been themselves. Austec racing is the only tuner I'd recommend that I have been too. He also done Ash's drift Supra - team yellow.

Noz I think ile take your advice Austec it is

I haven't decided on them yet noz just trying to get some info on them, before I decide! im interested in these guys because they tune the EMU

where is austec based?

might be good idea to do a new thread in the club-na-t to find out where everyone went?

Agreed gaz you starting one?

I haven't decided on them yet noz just trying to get some info on them, before I decide! im interested in these guys because they tune the EMU

 

where is austec based?

 

might be good idea to do a new thread in the club-na-t to find out where everyone went?

Miles away, although I took mine down there from Manchester and drove their courtesy car back up. Very helpfull guys... Muffleman (aka Matt) mapped my car last and did a great job on boost.

after a lot of thought and research I have decided to go with tuning developments,

they specialise in Japanese performance vehicles and can carry out anything from oil changes / fault finding right through to full race preparation with forged engine rebuilds, turbo kits and ecu remapping.

i am booked in for the 8th July and they have asked if they can have the car for 2days so they can iron out any niggles... Not sure if that should be ringing alarm bells or if its a good thing? Iv never had a car mapped before?

Now I chose these guys because i have the e-manage ultimate installed and they have mapped a lot of EMU and EMB's

only time will tell, I will keep you all posted!

nice, so where are they located?

I'm hoping to return to Austec when I get a remap, and I plan to leave the car there for a week (or however long it takes due to travelling etc)

Leaving the car over night means they have the chance to sort problems without you having to drive the car back. I think it's a more safe way to do things, even if you may loose that sudden rush of excited seeing the new mapping process happen.

Will be watching closely mate!

Ahh, "road testing", races with the mechanics from the garage up the road, take a way runs, picking up girls, it's all in the catch all, "Best to leave it a couple of days"

I can tell you some terrible stories....

Just kidding, no one would do anything like that of course.

2 days seems reasonable to me

Joking aside, any mapper who claims to be able to a full map in a day is probably going to leave you with a far from optimal cold start and warm up map.

Joking aside, any mapper who claims to be able to a full map in a day is probably going to leave you with a far from optimal cold start and warm up map.

Most tuners are a drive in and drive out setup though? Is this just for the general public. Are full maps only given to people racing?

Assuming you have a new ecu on the car and you tip at at Tuner X. He gets the car going, in a fashion, and proceeds to map it on the dyno or on the road (shudder....). He gets it pretty good, it's well after lunchchtime. A big engine takes about 10 hours to get thoroughly cold, maybe longer, depending on the weather and season, plus outside air temps need to drop overnight. So how does he do an effective cold start map, given 30 seconds after a cold start, the *Next* one is no longer a "cold start"? He needs it overnight and to be set up ready to log from the get up and go in the morning. Ideally he needs to do this a few times to get things spot on, the next time with cold drivability testing added as well. In fact if it were his own car he'd probably spend weeks fiddling during cold start periods There are terrible maps and there are fair maps, there are good maps, and there are OE standard maps. They are poles apart.

Not sure I undersatnd the reference to race maps. race maps are pretty easy, they aren't usually worried about cold starts or cold start driavability, so long as it starts and isn't too much of pain to get up to temp. They aren't usually worried about part throttle drivavibility, or part throttle economy. They aren't usually worried about emissions. They usually accept that if it blows up it's one of those things and haven't got a "Where there's Blame there's a Claim" solicitor's number in their Ipads

Ok so I though I would update you all on this, after a couple of failed attempts due to a cheap wastegate, wrong spring and melted hose's, mike and his brother did a fantastic job on mapping my e-mange ultimate and made a respectable 365bhp 370 ft lb torque at 7psi, it could have made more but my spec3 clutch is rated at 370 ft lb.

Through out my problems mike was always quick to respond to any questions I had and was very helpful and patient with me.

Prices are reasonable and mike even reduced the cost for me on a few occasions.

Overall I'm very pleased and will be going back next year when I lower the compression!

A turbo petrol engine is a turbo petrol engine. Choose the mapper based on their experience with your ECU and general experience. I would travel the length and breadth of the counrty to find a suitable mapper and a suitable mapping facility, rather than try and find someone in your own locale. Trailer hire is cheap.

This!

I ended up needing a new engine because i went with someone local.

I ended it trailering the car after the rebuild to TDI, they run it in on the dyno for 6 hours then it was mapped.