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Ok, on a more or less standard car, (filter & decat) would it be simple to plumb in some NOS and would it work well with an auto TT?
direct port?
single fogger?
2 stage or 4 stage progressive controler?
what shot?
what kit ?
TBH thats why i am asking! Im not sure what works best with the supra, but i DO want a reliable set up
ok mate try 50 shot to start off direct port is the best for power but is alot more work and has more punch on the pistons so i would try a fogger kit first and a purge valve to show off with.
and a two stage controller i can get you a kit if an when you want one and the kit you get is dependent on how much you wanna spend
dangerous brain
11-11-04, 08:41
Heres a question for ya slow dog.
If you are running a fogger kit with a "tweaked boost" TT is there a risk of the extra heat in the extra compressed inlet gasses igniting the fuel/nitrous mix in the manifold?
SexySallySupra
11-11-04, 12:01
Im wanting to stick a Shot of NOS on mine as well....my Jap TT is totaly standard and dont like Mods which are going to hurt my engine, if i only use it every so oftern (30secs a week) am i going to be doing damage?
Well, I've been impressed with it so far....
Just managed to get the progressive controller, haven't configured it yet... unless someone here has knowledge of the twisted sanity stuff....
Gav
so in your opinion a 50 shot will suffice, then maybe move on to a 75 shot if im happy?
what kit am i looking at then, and how much?
What about reliability?
Originally posted by ESPzetec
so in your opinion a 50 shot will suffice, then maybe move on to a 75 shot if im happy?
what kit am i looking at then, and how much?
What about reliability?
if you've not even experienced a stock sup yet then why worry about NOS?
From what i can gather it is very much an icing on the cake mod, and very few actually have it. Better to get the regular minor boost tweaks for the 50bhp increase (permanent and of known reliability)
All IMO.........
you need a spark a naked flame or metal temps to be very hot before fuel will ignite. or your car to miss fire and send a flame up the inlet when the gas is armed and running even then the flame cannot travel up the gas line cause of lake of oxygen other than that there is no danger of blowing your self up with most gas kits now there is alot of safety features that
can detect over heating running lean and all sorts of other things
thats why it is still used on drag cars running up to 3000 horse power..........
hope it helps.........
next
like i said gas is very safe in the right hands if fitted and set up propley 50 shot and 75 is very safe and a good punch so has a nice feel when used. i have fitted a b spoke n2o kit on clairs na that is running 75 shot with a 2 stage progressive control and a polished bottle i also made a polished inlet to screw the injector
into and looks the nuts you can get a kit for about 800 and is one of the best out there i went out to santa pod and see alot of these kits on cars and have not heard of any complants about them yet
and i know about twisted sanity my friend owns the company
his name is paul what do you need to know.....
is this nitrous for road use?
i got pulled over in clairs car and checked the gas system on the car and said thats fine do you have insurance for it and of course
i said yes the law states that its fine to fit and aginst the law to use on a public highway
i know thats the law, but that's not what im asking. :)
i thought the bottle had to be disconnected to b road legal?
dangerous brain
11-11-04, 14:32
Originally posted by slow dog
you need a spark a naked flame or metal temps to be very hot before fuel will ignite. or your car to miss fire and send a flame up the inlet when the gas is armed and running even then the flame cannot travel up the gas line cause of lake of oxygen other than that there is no danger of blowing your self up with most gas kits now there is alot of safety features that
can detect over heating running lean and all sorts of other things
thats why it is still used on drag cars running up to 3000 horse power..........
hope it helps.........
next
Nah I wasn't suggesting that the gas could blow the bottle or a flame travel back down the pressure gas line. What I was suggesting was:- Is there a chance that charged air that has been charged more than stock (ie by boosting at 1.2 bar on the supe for instance), that has not had an improved aftermarket FMIC fitted but still has an old and not so efficient SMIC fitted, could experience the detonation effect in the inlet section?
I know the principles of petrol combustion. I also know the effect that charging air has. So if det can occur under pressurisation is there also a chance it can happen when you effectively whack in a load of fuel and extra oxygen supply to an allready heated and compressed air supply?
My whole reasoning for asking this question is that a lot of people see Nitrous as being a very cheap way of improving power without improving components. That said same type of person might be temtped to up their boost without upping the ability of any other components. I would think that the cooler temp of the nitrous gas and the fuel spray would cool the charge air down sufficiently but there must come a point when things start to get a bit iffy.
MONKEYmark
11-11-04, 14:33
lee used to have on skyline on road. seems lots of people wanting to go with nos install. i would have thought going with standard mods first would be best. then going for nos down the line. i would only use for dragstrip been yorkshire man :p
dangerous brain
11-11-04, 18:55
I was only asking a general question so the answer would then be pubic knowledge fella. It just occured to me that a car running high levels of boost hence far higher temp and pressure at the manifold might risk detonation in the manifold if it was using a manky old SMIC with half the vanes missing on it. If thats not the case and that the temperature of charge gas and fuel would keep it safe thats all I was asking. Public service broadcast if you like.
Originally posted by dangerous brain
Nah I wasn't suggesting that the gas could blow the bottle or a flame travel back down the pressure gas line. What I was suggesting was:- Is there a chance that charged air that has been charged more than stock (ie by boosting at 1.2 bar on the supe for instance), that has not had an improved aftermarket FMIC fitted but still has an old and not so efficient SMIC fitted, could experience the detonation effect in the inlet section?
I know the principles of petrol combustion. I also know the effect that charging air has. So if det can occur under pressurisation is there also a chance it can happen when you effectively whack in a load of fuel and extra oxygen supply to an allready heated and compressed air supply?
My whole reasoning for asking this question is that a lot of people see Nitrous as being a very cheap way of improving power without improving components. That said same type of person might be temtped to up their boost without upping the ability of any other components. I would think that the cooler temp of the nitrous gas and the fuel spray would cool the charge air down sufficiently but there must come a point when things start to get a bit iffy.
and i will say it again if fitted right and set up right no it will not det and adding a small amount of gas an fuel will not bring up the pressure that much that it will blow a cast aly inlet
and you dont need to up grade any conponents for 50 shot of gas
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