Jellybean Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Just Back from Dave McCanns , Dublin Ireland Lance Setup http://mkiv.com/techarticles/lance_alignment/index.html Front: * Camber - 1.0 degrees * Caster + 5.0 degrees * Toe 0.00 mm Rear: * Camber -1.5 degrees * Toe in (total) 1.00 mm •3hrs on the ramp • Wallet is 75 euro lighter •Rear setup went all good, •Front not so good: 1. Front Drivers Camber is still 1 Degree Out , the bolt was turning but at a certain degree it was not adjusting out any further ( we think the weight of the car was preventing the Wheel from going out) He siad he doenst have time to work on her any more but thinks if we jack the car up and put the wheel to the max camber we can bring her in on the ramp 2. Front Passenger Camber is 10 minutes out I was told with the centric bolts used on Toyota's and Mazda's, you cannot get it perfect plus most cars going around are out here and there. (Dont know how true this is??) I am not too impressed by the last statement, I know Center of Gravity in the UK (http://www.centergravity.co.uk/) has done numerous UK Supra's with no issues? He said I need to call back so he has more time to work on her; Even in the current state the car feels so much better, stable, really wants me to push her in cornors ; I would feel alot more confident in her now. I got the last setup done by Blakes Cross @ 80 euro and 10-15 mins on the ramp; looking at the settings before Jamie touched her they where all over the place. She chewed my last set of front very badly on the inner edge. Any advice welcome, The Supra can go to 2 degress 80 mins / 3 camber on Stock arms as far as I know , is it a good approach to take? Jack the car up and put the wheel to the max camber we can bring her in on the ramp; (She comes in very easy on the ramp) Or go somewhere else ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 Can you adjust the Castor on Stock arms? I have fixed rate Bilstein coilovers, not too sure if castor is adjusted on the coilover or via the suspension arms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Can you adjust the Castor on Stock arms? I have fixed rate Bilstein coilovers, not too sure if castor is adjusted on the coilover or via the suspension arms? Castor is adjusted via the rear eccentric bolt/washer combo on the bottom arm. Camber is adjusted via the front. The camber adjuster has limiters built into the arms so the bolt and washer will only turn so far, unlike the castor adjuster which can do complete turns unrestricted. If the camber bolt was turning 360 degrees when Dave was trying to adjust the camber then there is a problem with that adjuster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikedjack Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I had mine set up the same last week however I put my rear camber to 2degrees and my front castor to 5 and a half degrees. Drives immense now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 If the camber bolt was turning 360 degrees when Dave was trying to adjust the camber then there is a problem with that adjuster. Thanks Damien It was just not budging past the -1.28 + camber but if you wanted to increase the - Camber it was easy Would the weight of the car not be an issue? Jack the car up and put Max + camber then dial it back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted July 2, 2012 Author Share Posted July 2, 2012 Wez in WKD imports (He normally competes with Driftworks Guys) over here has a HUNTER machine ; I hear they are good ? What setup would people recommend for fast road? Lance settings above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikedjack Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Go for lance settings with as much front caster (obviously the same both sides) as possible, 5degrees may not be possible but try if you can for the most. The rear tow in slightly helps the launching of the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted July 2, 2012 Author Share Posted July 2, 2012 Will do thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) Why so much caster ? thats mainly for straight line stability. I only have just over 4 degrees and the car is fine Edited July 2, 2012 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted July 2, 2012 Author Share Posted July 2, 2012 Why so much caster ? thats mainly for straight line stability. I only have just over 4 degrees and the car is fine I was going to pull it back to 4 too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 A bit of toe in on the front and rear would be better as well, my car has 7 minutes on the front and 30 minutes on the rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikedjack Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Castor provides stability in all aspects, front end toe in on a road car will ruin the tyres in no time, especially with the heavy ass lump of pig iron that is the 2jzGTE in the front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted July 2, 2012 Author Share Posted July 2, 2012 A bit of toe in on the front and rear would be better as well, my car has 7 minutes on the front and 30 minutes on the rear Going to leave mine Front toe at 0 ; mine was eating front tyres inner edge so just want to be safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus GTE Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Had mine professionally done a few months ago and car sticks to the rd like glue Before Left Right 1 3/4o 1 3/4o R Left R Right 3 1/4o 3 1/8o AFTER Left Right 1/2o 1/2o R Left R Right 1 3/4o 1 3/4o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted July 2, 2012 Author Share Posted July 2, 2012 Even what they did the weekend and considering the Suspension is still out ; she feels 100% better Would love to get all New OEM or Ikeya Formula setup , I think the Ikeya Formula stuff works out about 5K GBP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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