How many would be interested in PROPER coilover suspension

As it says in the title, how many of you guys would be interested in having proper coilover suspension on your cars?? I have a guy who makes lovely stuff interested in developing it so it handles and drives nice, best bit is they are local to me and can offer a rebuild on the units at £100 per unit if they ever need it. This is PROPER suspension not a cheap coilover like BC etc. If he can see interest he is willing to develop a nice set of shocks. Options would be available on top IE double adjustable, spherical mounts etc. Price would be circa £1500 but less if we could sell a few sets in a group buy, my car would be available to be driven as a test bed by andy potential customers.

I want a nice set of suspension that's nice and comfortable to drive. On a road car, that isn't thrashed arround roundabouts or on a track.

Im fed up of crashing through bumps and bouncing over potholes. My current coilovers give me 0 confidence to put the power Down I keep thinking if I hit a bump I'll be backwards in a hedge.

But I guess these would be aimed at people wanting the best handling

I want a nice set of suspension that's nice and comfortable to drive. On a road car, that isn't thrashed arround roundabouts or on a track.

 

Im fed up of crashing through bumps and bouncing over potholes. My current coilovers give me 0 confidence to put the power Down I keep thinking if I hit a bump I'll be backwards in a hedge.

 

But I guess these would be aimed at people wanting the best handling

What have you got on now ?

I inherited the car with a set of hks coilovers. It was a track car project. And I'm sure they handle great but I want to use the car to get to work

The hsds on my old car were better but I still preferred the ride on my uk setup, and they had lowering springs on. Might see if chris Wilson can hook me up with something similar. But can't afford it at the

Mo.

If thats separately adjustable for bump and rebound, it would be very good, and if the damping is developed for the each spring rate available that would be very good value.

Mind you if anyone wants nice comfy road handling, i would leave out the spherical top mounts;)

I inherited the car with a set of hks coilovers. It was a track car project. And I'm sure they handle great but I want to use the car to get to work

The hsds on my old car were better but I still preferred the ride on my uk setup, and they had lowering springs on. Might see if chris Wilson can hook me up with something similar. But can't afford it at the

Mo.

I'd fit stock dampers and springs then if i were you

I would be interested in this

What sort of devolment time is needed?

Will they be dual perch?

Is the rebound and bump seprate adjustment or together?

I'd be interested.

Would be nice if they were Electronically adjustable though- Any chance of that?

I need some feedback so the guy can read this thread and see what people want, the idea is a coilover that drives nicely on the road as well as being ok for trackdays with some twiddleing.

seprate ride height and spring preload adjustment, adjustable dampers with seprate bump and rebound settings would be ideal

Might be a bit ambitious for that price but i can hope.

I would say most people would want seprate ride and spring preload settings with bump and rebound adjustment together

They dont make any coilovers with a fixed spring seat, they will all be height adjustable. He wants to use my car so he can develop the ride quality.

They dont make any coilovers with a fixed spring seat, they will all be height adjustable. He wants to use my car so he can develop the ride quality.

will the ride height be adjusted by winding up the spring seat or by adjusting the bottom bracket?

will the ride height be adjusted by winding up the spring seat or by adjusting the bottom bracket?

Ride height adjustment will not effect spring rate. It is the bottom bracket as you put it.

Ride height adjustment will not effect spring rate. It is the bottom bracket as you put it.

That would be one of the most important things for me.

would the damper be compression and rebound together do you know?

Spring rate isn't changed with the height adjustable suspension where it's the spring that's compressed anyway.... the spring rate is constant. The issue with the likes of the cheap teins etc is that the spring travel is limited, so when you raise the car to an acceptable level the spring has very little travel left. Throw softer springs into the mix and they will bottom out like mad making the ride crashy and rough.

From what I can tell the decent suspension on offer has really long springs, that is so that they can be a bit softer than the normal height adjustable coilovers while still having plenty of travel so that they don't bottom out. The springs on my HSDs are very stiff, as they are short, making for a good handling ride but not a very comfortable one. I would love the best of both worlds. KW suspension seems to have the perfect setup for the Supra but I would really love a try of them before I bought. If this guy can do what KW says they can do then they should sell like hotcakes.

If you could do something like this for the Supra? http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?512195-Apex-Limo-coilovers-for-the-S13-S14-S15-180SX-and-Silvia

I'm not sure but you might need to be logged in to see the photos.

If you could do something like this for the Supra? http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?512195-Apex-Limo-coilovers-for-the-S13-S14-S15-180SX-and-Silvia

 

I'm not sure but you might need to be logged in to see the photos.

I am pretty sure that Apex coil-overs are made in the same factory as BC, Apex actually market BC in the UK, i think Dude is looking to do somewhat better quality than that.

I am pretty sure that Apex coil-overs are made in the same factory as BC, Apex actually market BC in the UK, i think Dude is looking to do somewhat better quality than that.

Sorry, I wasn't very clear in my last post, I was referring more to the comfort aspect and the way Jonny W's feedback describes them.

I am pretty sure that Apex coil-overs are made in the same factory as BC, Apex actually market BC in the UK, i think Dude is looking to do somewhat better quality than that.

We were specifcally discussing the 'merits' of BC when deciding everything a coilover should not be !!!!

We were specifcally discussing the 'merits' of BC when deciding everything a coilover should not be !!!!

I have used Tien, Apex and have BC on my Skyline, and i must admit although not great, they are not bad, however i think because the spring rates are for the 350Z and my Skyline is a bit more lardy, they feel a little better, IMO all of my list are either over stiff spring rate, or the damping range is not correct, i had Tien on my Supra and still found them lacking, i think the main problem with most coil-overs is down to bad spring/damping match, and mainly because the bump and rebound ratios are fixed.

Has anybody tried the Nitron Coilover's that Wiffbitz offer?

Has anybody tried the Nitron Coilover's that Wiffbitz offer?

The advantage of the ones we would have built is the firm is local and offer a full back up service, full rebuild and even a dyno check on each shock for £20 to check performance. The problem with the cheaper end of the market is that the valving etc is just generic, not designed for a specific car and then mismatched to spring rate.

How many people are you going to need to be interested before you could start?

How many people are you going to need to be interested before you could start?

5 to express an interest, no money changing hands but its not worth developing to sell just 1 set.

If i could use them over here I'd be interested :\