Recommendations for Big Brake Kit?

Hi Guys,

I'm going to be doing a GTE conversion on my SZ-R 6speed but as i'll be putting a single on the GTE lump keeping the stock Jspec brakes would be kind of suicidal, so i've decided to get the majority of the supporting mods done prior to me dropping the new engine in.

I'm looking for a Big Brake Kit that doesn't cost the earth but will provide adequate braking for around 600hp but must fit under 17" wheels as I will be keeping my Weds for winter wheels and using my 18's as summer ones, can anyone advise on what would work? I've seen a guy selling some Wilwood 6pots with 345mm discs however i've not seen anyone over here using these so am a little dubious (although I know the Wilwood's are recommended on MR2's).

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Dan

Personally I'd go for the UK spec brakes with some Endless carbon/ceramic pads and decent fluid... assuming they'll fit under your wheels. They are more than up to the job. Had them on mine.

Personally I'd go for the UK spec brakes with some Endless carbon/ceramic pads and decent fluid... assuming they'll fit under your wheels. They are more than up to the job. Had them on mine.

UK's are excellent brakes. But also check out Chris Wilson pads too, on to OEM discs.

Agree with Gaz, UK's will do the Job nicely, if you going bigger brakes then id buy something with a good Rep, you get what you pay for IMO....

A Full UK set up can be got for approx £1100 depending on how much discount you get off Toyota

Whatever you buy you'll need to check your wheels will fit over them though

I have UK set up with OEM disks and CW fast road pads all round. Fantastic setup if you ask me...

UK's are excellent brakes. But also check out Chris Wilson pads too, on to OEM discs.

CW's pads are absolutely brilliant for the price, but I found the Endless were much harder wearing and bit a little harder too. However, they were over £300 an axle last time I bought some

I've only ever used Toyota pads and im very happy with how the car stops, even with track day use.

£58 for front pads

£45 for the rears

Bargin

I can do a race pad for the UK brakes, but expect dust and noise, although they will work fine form stone cold n the road. I can possibly do a good deal on a full UK brake set up, new, show me what prices I have to beat.

Beyond UK calipers and brakes I can do a floating AP front disc and alloy bell setup for the UK calipers, that will of course fit under stock 17 inch rims. It's pricey though.

£1184.96 inc vat is the best i can get the uk's for from Toyota, not including shims.

Cailpers £176.68 + vat each front & rear

Discs front £46.21 + vat each

Discs rear £51.25 + vat each

Pads front £47.84 + vat

Pads rear £38.00 + vat

Hmm common trend forming here lol, my 18's will be XXR 502's so unsure if UK's will fit under them?

K-Sport 8pot F and 4 pot R with 330mm discs. That's why i got for my SZ-R. The advantages over the UK would be stopping power, front calipers require less clearance, less weight, looks. The price is a little higher though.

I managed to pick up a full set of UK brakes (calipers, discs and pads (only 500 miles on the discs and pads) front & rear) for £650. Fantastic brakes.

K-Sport 8pot F and 4 pot R with 330mm discs. The advantages over the UK would be stopping power

That's not entirely true. More pots does not equal more stopping power. I can almost guarantee that K-Sports aren't any better than UK's when it comes to stopping power, the only advantage is less weight and probably a little bit more pedal feel at best.

That's my opinion anyway.

aren't the UK spec brakes 350mm ish ? how could 330mm k sport's be as good as 350mm UK? i thought it was the surface area that was important over the number of pots

UK specs use 323mm discs at the front and 324mm at the rear.

That's not entirely true. More pots does not equal more stopping power. I can almost guarantee that K-Sports aren't any better than UK's when it comes to stopping power, the only advantage is less weight and probably a little bit more pedal feel at best.

 

That's my opinion anyway.

richardstock1 posted a review of these after coming from UK's.

http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?206375-K-Sport-Brake-Kits/page7

He was using 356mm discs though. These do not fit under 17" wheels.

ahh ok do you know if the 330's will? Anyone used or know of people that have used the Wilwoods? I've seen a few guys in the states running them and they seem pleased

That's not entirely true. More pots does not equal more stopping power. I can almost guarantee that K-Sports aren't any better than UK's when it comes to stopping power, the only advantage is less weight and probably a little bit more pedal feel at best.

 

That's my opinion anyway.

Agreed.

Stopping power is governed by how much grip your tyres have.

Once you have overcome the grip then your not stopping any quicker.

The only improvement you could get is less fade and better pedal feel, and ofcourse the bingy looks but

your going to pay for it.

Approx £700 more for the 8 pot 4 pot K Sport kit, also how much are the pads when you need to replace them

along with the discs ?

I couldn't find a price for individual parts.

Also are they on the shelf like Toyota are ?

There's a lot more to it than that. The pad area, piston sizes, mechanical grip of the tyres etc all pay relevance in to how good or bad brakes will be.

Edit: Totally quoted the wrong sizes there

ahh ok do you know if the 330's will?

According to K-Sport, with 330mm discs they will fit under 17" wheels but you better get a template first just to be sure that they fit under your wheels.

Whats your budget Dan ?

set of 350mm k sports for all round is 1500 ish, set of uk's are normally about 400 if you get off a forum member. def the cheaper option and many would agree the better one.

richardstock1 posted a review of these after coming from UK's.

 

http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?206375-K-Sport-Brake-Kits/page7

 

He was using 356mm discs though. These do not fit under 17" wheels.

I read that review and the main points were pedal feel and consistency which is to be expected plus his discs were larger and the pad compound maybe significantly different to what he was running on UK's so again there other variables to consider as well.

I've experience UK's on countless tracks over the years and not once felt there was a need for more braking power in that environment so a car purely for road use and the occasional track day id say UK's are more than enough. Again this is just my opinion. We all have different view's on things and see things differently

il take your advice and save for UK's so if a set pops up. sorted.