Xenon HID conversion illegal !

I was not aware that these had been deemed illegal!

My Supra has recently passed it's MOT with them, yet maybe because I have 4,300k it is not as obvious?

http://youtu.be/yVuSSdZNsZw

Link to Government paper.

http://www2.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps.html

If this is a re-post, maybe I should get out more often.

First thing my MOT guy said was

HID's FAIL! - Titan Sunstrip FAIL! - Front and Rear Number plates FAIL! - "Where is the rear fog"? In the middle of the rear hatch sir I said, FAIL! - "whats going on with these emmisions"? its double decat sir FAIL!

MOT now expires 31/7/12

First thing my MOT guy said was

 

HID's FAIL! - Titan Sunstrip FAIL! - Front and Rear Number plates FAIL! - "Where is the rear fog"? In the middle of the rear hatch sir I said, FAIL! - "whats going on with these emmisions"? its double decat sir FAIL!

 

MOT now expires 31/7/12

sounds like you have one of the "friendly" MOT stations

Just another thing to add to the list then!

I do get flashed the odd time from oncoming traffic.... I just thought they were giving the equivilent of a bikers nod because Im in a Supra

I fitted them just before last years MOT and requested them to be correctly aligned by the tester during the test, yet nothing was 'mentioned'.

They've been illegal for quite some time to be fair.

Ive never had an issue with mine on MOT time, again that maybe because there 4300k.

Well when i put mine in i brought it into the garage & i aligned them. To be fair they are spot on & the beam pattern is perfect on them. Did you notice though that the renault in that video doesn't have projector lights like the supra which i think makes all the difference.

Agree with the above post which is why there is a video on how to convert non projector headlights into projector ones.

very interesting and good skills.

We already have projector lenses though.

We already have projector lenses though.

yes, i know - just pointing out that non projector ones can also be converted with a bit of talent.

Not just aiming at yourself or that video. More along the lines of I think that is why we get away with it at MOT stations etc. Without projector lenses we wouldn't stand a chance.

Yep, that's true. I have done the conversion to my last 3 cars.

FTO, Supra & the Type R, they all have the projector lense so the light is directed neatly to the road.

I believe the failure in an MOT is that the headlight should have self levelling motor & also headlamp washers.

I hate HID's thats why i never considered them, especially in audi's their lights are stupidly blinding, thank god they have been deemed illegal! GOOD NEWS.

I believe the failure in an MOT is that the headlight should have self levelling motor & also headlamp washers.

Correct Abz

Also some kits fitted to older cars are just all over the place. Im sure it wont be long until kits come out combining leveling lamps, washers and the lights tho.

I hate HID's thats why i never considered them, especially in audi's their lights are stupidly blinding, thank god they have been deemed illegal! GOOD NEWS.

They are only illegal on older cars as all new cars comply with the regulations i.e self levelling and washers

All of the what's not legal is shown in the first post.

Yet fortunately, it appears that MOT testers and the Old Bill are not yet enlightened with the finer details.

Not just aiming at yourself or that video. More along the lines of I think that is why we get away with it at MOT stations etc. Without projector lenses we wouldn't stand a chance.

I wonder whether the UK headlights are also projector lenses.....with all that reflective coating I am not so sure.

I wonder whether the UK headlights are also projector lenses.....with all that reflective coating I am not so sure.

the non facelift plastic lenses have the same coating.

The only issue i ever had with my hids on my uk car were that last time the mot guy couldnt get them to ajust with the ajuster wheel thing. but when i went to pick the car up it had magicly passed...

i got it in the car moved the ajuster wheel, the headlights moved. put them in the lowest position and carried on as normal.

My headlight washers also are not connected so it looks like the mot places dont care as long as you have projector lenses and can ajust them.

I was under the impression that it was only the HID kits that don't have the 'CE' approval stamp on them that are illegal. My NA passed last weekend and it has 6000k's in it with UK lights - it remains to be seen if the TT is as lucky! Guess I'll find out in September...

the non facelift plastic lenses have the same coating.

indeed - its just the facelift ones that have the grey surround.

300 £ for a HID kit and 250£ to get it fitted.. talk about getting raped

This wake-up campaign by Auto Express will no doubt include VOSA, so our HID's days may be numbered.

Good thing ireland is always decades behind

I wonder whether the UK headlights are also projector lenses.....with all that reflective coating I am not so sure.

The reflector doesn't do anything. Well, it might reflect the sidelight but certainly not the main beam.

"Projector lens" means there is a lens that the bulb sits behind. The domes of glass in front of the dipped beam and the foglights are what makes them projector lenses